Agreed that this was super sentimental, which sometimes works in the show's favor (this week, yes), sometimes not (last week). I've kind of given up on nu Trek writing approaching the sophistication of DS9 (with the possible exception of Lower Decks).
One thing that did bug was Adira saying Senna's full, joined name all the time. You wouldn't hear Jadzia or Ezri saying "Curzon Dax this, Curzon Dax that."
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Sunday, 8 November 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link
i was hoping Michael would call Adira “old man” lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 November 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link
Episode 5 was... too much stuff. The only part that worked was the stuff on the seed ship.
The song mystery box that they stole from BSG is such a waste of time. At least it wasn't from the 1960s.
― wasdnous (abanana), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link
iirc ST: TNG had an episode about how a progenitor race/outside force had seeded a bunch of planets in the galaxy with life, hence the large number of humanoids that showed up. unsurprisingly, it was a story co-written by Ron Moorehere we go:https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid
― mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link
so, the “common ancestral ties” thing was in BSG by way of ST, c/o Ron
― mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
i liked this episode also BONUS CRONENBERG
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 November 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
I liked it too, but god, Burnham, can you not URGENTLY WHISPER all the time as a way of communicating? I have had to restort to putting CC on this show because with the LOUD DYNAMIC RANGE and mumbled speaking ive no fricking idea whats going on.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 November 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
(Could I have sounded any older then I think not)
<3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 November 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
feel like there is a lot of discrimination against people with less than surround setups or people who don’t listen to shows at full volume these daysthe “reduce loud sounds” settings on some streaming boxes is nice to crank it up but avoid maximum blast, and I listen on headphones a fair bit (streaming during the workday from my tablet while working because lol new show) but the full dynamic range of audio isn’t great with tv
― mh, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link
Kind of amused but mostly exasperated by Michael's insubordination. I know it's her thing but still.
I'm tired of antagonistic debriefs, though the back and forth between Georgiou and her interrogator was good, mostly because he wasn't stupid.
I thought that I'd acclimated to the sentimentality of the series but it continues to plumb new depths of sappiness, and this time of was too gooey for me.
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, 16 November 2020 09:16 (three years ago) link
I was annoyed with the Georgiou blinking thing. You would think that holograms would know when someone was trying to disrupt their integrity and could do something about it, even if that something is to call security. Like, if the blinking thing has been around for hundreds of years, you'd think they'd have copped on to it by now.
― trishyb, Monday, 16 November 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that was such a silly and pointless way of emphasizing what a badass Georgiou is supposed to be.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 November 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link
I find Georgiou a little tiresome, but I liked her and Cronenberg(!) together
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 November 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
When someone blinks that much next to Cronenberg,there is an implicit contract with the audience that someone’s head will explode.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 16 November 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
lol otm
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
ugh what a tedious episode.wonder if detmer's going to get herself checked out or wait until she loses it during a critical mission.
― neith moon (ledge), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
this was so low stakes and low interest that i didn't notice any mention of music until burnham brought it up at the end.no mention of giotto in the long wikipedia entry on perspective. i could crack open gombrich's history of art, otoh it was someone from another planet 200 years in the future so i could cut them some slack.
― neith moon (ledge), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
Giotto advanced the development of perspective, but not quite how Saru described.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
OK I completely missed that that was Cronenberg lol. BTW what was his deal? He seemed more... across things other people did not know? How'd he know about the terrans and the mirror universe? How was that a casual "oh yeah ppl stopped coming across from there 500 years back"? I felt like i missed something.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link
cronenberg knows all and sees all
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link
lol
"why the glasses?""I dunno I thought they made me look smart..."
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link
I assume that DS9's mirror universe stuff made it into Starfleet reports, so the paper trail is there.
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link
Ah now this may be where I'm at a disadvantage. If there's any assumed knowledge of other series, I'm gonna miss things, Ive not seem more than S1 of DS9.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link
DS9 hardly ever gets referenced by the other series -- the Alpha Quadrant fights a war that requires a combined alliance among THREE major powers, and Voyager and the movies act like that never happened -- but the real reason to watch DS9 is because it's the best Trek.
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
otm
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
I dont mind what I have seen but I get so put off by Quark/ferengis in general.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
imo for DS9 you can watch the debut then skip to s03
you'll miss some largely unimportant character development and a few cool episodes but it's fine
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link
also yes, you *can* skip *almost* all of the ferengi episodes, although i wouldn't recommend it -- they become much much better and even vital as the series progresses
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link
e6: another mess. planet situation unexplained until around halfway through the episode. The character vignettes don't work when I have no idea what is happening.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link
i thought it was good! also i feel like we are maybe watching different shows lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link
i am liking it, although i have to say the vulcans did a pretty shitty job of raising burnham to be logical/non-emotional
also she obviously is no longer meant for starfleet, so kick her out already
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
can someone remind me why georgiou loves burnham? i mean, i like it, but iirc mirror burnham fucked her over and she doesn't really seem like the type to be sentimental about it
anyway she continues to be the most intersting character, goofy blinking shit aside
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
no explanation has been given.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
the entire arc of starlet captains (insubordinates, etc) is "is this person REALLY up to starfleet?" and burnham is on that
the mirror universe was 100% drama and really the more burnham pulls from georgiou the more she loves her
― mh, Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
starlet = starfleet lol
― mh, Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
geoegiou/michelle yeoh is fantastici also liked the stuff between the trill girl and the spore guy (so bad with the names of characters in this show)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
wondered what that final confrontation would have been like if Pike was captain would he have yelled? i feel like maybe. she reaaaaaaally fucked up
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link
the trill girl
u just canceled urself
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
:(
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link
i want to know whose idea it was that saru do that behind-the-back arm-swishing thing, because it is annoying and brilliant
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link
YES
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 07:22 (three years ago) link
wondered what that final confrontation would have been like if Pike was captain
Saru is so soft! I guess there's no point in him pretending that he has a standard hierarchical relationship with his crew after all they've been through. When he was talking to Tilly in particular, I was thinking, what captain talks this way with an ensign? (Not complaining about it, I know it's not real life or anything, I just noticed it.) On a related note, Tilly is long overdue a promotion.
― trishyb, Saturday, 21 November 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link
agree!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
Ah now this may be where I'm at a disadvantage. If there's any assumed knowledge of other series, I'm gonna miss things, Ive not seem more than S1 of DS9.― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:13 PM bookmarkflaglinkDS9 hardly ever gets referenced by the other series -- the Alpha Quadrant fights a war that requires a combined alliance among THREE major powers, and Voyager and the movies act like that never happened -- but the real reason to watch DS9 is because it's the best Trek.― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:13 PM bookmarkflaglink
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
I take back what I said, definitely catch up on the entirety of DS9 to really get the self sealing stem bolts joke.
― Niplheim (Leee), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
lotta weeping in this show
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 November 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
With Michael suddenly being proud sis to her estranged brother, I'd complain about Disco ignoring its own characterizations, but hey, that's a time-honored Trek tradition.
― Basic Chan Ho Park (Leee), Friday, 27 November 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link
Enjoyed the last season but feel weirdly uncommitted to catching up this time, after the first three episodes. Missing anything?
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 November 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link
man i loved this episodei cant really bring much critical analysis to the table but just the way Michael’s estranged relationship with her mom was mirrored in her estrangement from Vulcan AND the Federation, it was v meaningful & i liked the way it played out. but especially on the mother daughter level, it felt v real & well-observedi love the relationships on this show
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
I liked the Picard-crossover of bringing the Qowat Milat back in!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link