What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

We've already solved this conundrum forever:

Are you an accelerationist, y/n?

“Wet blanket” - why should the default be sweetness and light?

Aimless tut-tutted someone’s tone

monotone

The only progressive policy goals with a snowball’s chance in hell of making progress are those that amount to undoing the fascist enterprises of the executive under Trump, which will bring us to the status quo ante of Obama’s second term, so yay trans kids and DACA, boo deportation force and drone war I guess.

Any further turn towards progressivism originating in the executive will be wholly contingent on the party in the White House, subject to sweeping reversal as soon as control changes hands.

No meaningful legislation on any matter whatsoever will be passed by the next congress if it remains in GOP control, and will still be watered down by the senate if it’s Georgia sends two democrats and it’s 50-50 plus Harris because the likes of Joe Manchin can stomp their little feet whenever they don’t like something, much like Joementun did with the ACA.

So I wouldn’t say night and day. Night and slightly less dark night.

Anyway abolish the police.

Also fuck machine mayors, vote the bastards out

Abolish the πόλις.

Hey I’m not an anarchist

Why is your default to be like this CONSTANTLY? it's sucking tedious. I know silby is just a miserable SOB so what's your explanation milo?

I’m pretty cheerful most of the time

Abolish the pelisse.

constant to semi constant misery and an utter inability to chill is a common ailment among leftists I know, myself included. comes with the frustration of the world not being better and having a bit of a concept of just how much collective effort would be required to significantly unfuck it.

Same, I’m genially amused most of the time. Maintaining a strict poz vibes only attitude about Joe Biden to be happy sounds like torture.

That was an xp to silby. Separating political misery from day to day joy is a lefty’s only hope - but I see no reason not to call out the misery when it presents itself.

is it really tedious if it amps posters up so much

silby’s style is more playful imo, glad to have them back

"Maintaining a strict poz vibes only attitude about Joe Biden to be happy sounds like torture."

Dude are you serious. He literally JUST won the election that knocked out the most heinous human from the highest office in the land. People are happy That Trump lost wayyyyy more than that Biden lost. How do you not grasp this

Than Biden won

Ephemeral catharsis is good and healthy while we linger in the interregnum and it won't sully the grandeur of your long-term goals, milo. You should try it some time.

Joe Biden Also Sucks, Of Course

no he's good actually

Wtf, I love Biden now pic.twitter.com/sk04PZQEqe

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) November 7, 2020

trust me you can't will yourself into being happy with this outcome xp

sometimes he has good quips. inshallah was good.

No, but the world's proverbial shittiness doesn't mean I'm not entitled to a modicum of happiness in spite of it all, and some of that happiness can stem from spite towards the incumbent loser-in-chief.

xp

yes everyone is entitled to their feelings

It will never be good enough, and there is some metaphysical solace to be derived from that knowledge (or so I tell myself – I understand not wanting to go down that route).

I find no catharsis in President Biden. If Trump died in a particularly amusing fashion, sure. But he’s going to die rich and free of consequences while the rest of the reactionaries are strengthened in the medium-term and life gets worse for most people over the short, medium and long terms.

I’m pretty jubilant today but would like to note that the ILX politics sensible realism crew are equally tedious/ relentless

personally the impact of trump losing was maybe dulled for me because I've been assuming he would lose since COVID got bad

Everyone Also Sucks, Of Course

That's fair, Simon. I've little doubt that Biden would've gotten BTFO in a covidless world.

I find no catharsis in President Biden. If Trump died in a particularly amusing fashion, sure. But he’s going to die rich and free of consequences while the rest of the reactionaries are strengthened in the medium-term and life gets worse for most people over the short, medium and long terms.

So many people are happy and relieved, I hope you can find carthasis in that.

A friend of mine maintains that catharsis is a reactionary emotion

that's....not how catharsis works imo xp

Is your friend the Angriest Dog in the World?

xp

Catharsis is inherently dialectical so if anything I'd say it's a good fit for Marxism and its precipitates. Mehdi Belhaj Kacem has written some good pieces about this.

that's....not how catharsis works imo xp

You’re right, but there is joy to be found in the carthasis others are expressing at the moment.

didn't brecht think tragic catharsis was reactionary?

If it only serves to sublimate one's oppression at the hands of the status quo, yes.

I don’t know what Bretch thought about carthasis but he would be dancing in the streets right now.

most ILE thread ever

why does everyone have to care so much about what some other people are feeling rn

*that* is the truly reactionary emotion

I blame Ben Shapiro.

When you're miserable about how miserable you are certain to be in the future, nothing in the present can disturb your misery.

disingenuousness/gaslighting is just as lacking in civility as “throwing tantrums” or whatever.

otm

Aimless tut-tutted someone’s tone

monotone

Aimless, not sure if you noticed but due to the timing of your post, and the thread you made it in, many of us read you as tut-tutting the impertinent tone of AOC in her tweet, and not - as I now infer from this post - milo.

"I find no catharsis in President Biden"

Sucks to be you then

I’m pretty comfortable not deriving joy from the guy who has played a leading role in ruining millions of lives over the past five decades.

If Joe Biden is the best thing you got going in your life let me know I’ll send you an edible arrangement or something to try to lend you a little sunshine

many of us read you as tut-tutting the impertinent tone of AOC in her tweet

Two posts above mine milo posted, without comment, a tweet that suggested:

I am a progressive, and I think you need to develop a more conciliatory and cooperative attitude.

Milo being milo, no comment was required to file this under "scorn and derision". My post was responding to his. Cooperation with anyone not firmly in agreement with all things milo is the worst of sins in his politics. I see I failed to make it clear what and who I was responding to.

guys let's keep the "Biden sucks" fights to the Biden sucks thread today, unless it's to disagree with AOC's tone in congratulating him (once, then pushing it down her feed with RAH! RAH! ILHAN OMAR! tweets)

I see I failed to make it clear what and who I was responding to.

Perhaps you did not see what and who that Karen was responding to; it was aligning yourself with her sentiments that read, in context, as you dismissing the structural and racist aspects of AOC's specific marginalisation.