PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

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With VR + 120hz + if 3D is due for a comeback, plenty of room for power use imo

Nhex, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

VR sure i guess, framerates above 60 aren't a big deal for casual gaming and competitive gamers are all on PC anyway, 3D please no

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

We haven't yet seen AAA games in 4k120. I feel like that'll be the next big "wow" factor (and also probably limited to games like GTA VII or something). But even seeing games over 60hz - which nobody is even streaming at in the present - can be impressive

Nhex, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

60->120hz is really not a wow factor like 30->60hz is imo. the only time i ever feel the difference is mouselook games, where you're moving the camera quickly and constantly, and mouselook doesn't exist on consoles

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

i guess if console gamers are willing to finally embrace gyro aim like nintendo folks do then it can matter more but there's still ridiculous pushback to that afaik

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

GTA VII

lol at skipping VI when V is 7 years deep and on its third generation of console. GTA VII will be a delayed launch title for PS7 in 2033.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

true, i was being optimistic lol

Nhex, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

GTA VII: 2020

calstars, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

i've seen a few of these PS4 vs PS5 comparison videos now (Miles Morales was the last one) and i'm struggling to see any significant difference between the two. maybe a tiny bit of motion improvement, a small amount of background detail here and there, but it looks like the days of huge leaps from say the NES to the SNES or even PSOne to PS2 are over now.
We've hit a ceiling in terms of graphical output, one which as a kid I used to only dream about: "What if the games looked like reality, how amazing would that be?".
I'm also underwhelmed by the games that are leading the PS5 roll-out: They all seem to be sequels or remakes or just slightly dandied-up versions of existing games, so very little for me to get exicted about. Obvs we're going to see more getting rolled out in the coming year, but for now the PS5 feels less like a brand new console and more like an upgraded PS4.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 12 November 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

theres really no PS5 games yet, just PS4 games running on higher settings

the big upgrade this gen is the CPU so other than higher framerates (which, 30 to 60fps is still a notable quality of life boost for action games) you won't see a big difference until they stop making games that can run on the PS4 and then stuff like better AI, better physics simulation, denser open world simulation, etc are all on the table. whether devs can do cool stuff with that i dunno yet

the other big upgrade is the controller haptics but obviously you can't see that in videos

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

Yeah, was gonna say, you rarely see what a system can do right out of the gate for numerous reasons.

I'm excited about the Demon's Souls remake, but that's about it right now. OK with waiting until it has an actual library.

circa1916, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

also obviously if you're watching comparisons on a 1080p display you're not seeing much of the fidelity difference between 1080p and 4k

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

I was tempted to buy a 4k monitor for the PS4, adding even more to the wasted money pile..

Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

PS5, obv

Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah, honestly seeing even PS4 Pro running 4K in person was pretty stunning.

circa1916, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Which means I will likely be upgrading my TV soon too. *sigh*

circa1916, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

it'll still look better either way since downsampling from 4k eliminates aliasing (this is also why games always look better in youtube windows than full screen, a lot of the seams get supersampled away)

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

i'm finally getting kicked and dragged into the "multiple thousands of Ks" league, due to my macbook pro display busting a few days ago. thinking of getting a mac mini and then pairing it with a 4K display which i can also use for the PS5 i will inevitably buy soon

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

LMK if you can find a 4k 120hz monitor that's under $1000

Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

will do, but i doubt it

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST THING TO HAPPEN FOR FGC EVENTS THANKS TO THIS FEATURE ON #PS5.

You can now turn off the system's Bluetooth in the PS5 Settings for events! pic.twitter.com/KA05yebCST

— Alex (@Jebailey) November 12, 2020

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

120hz is for fps gamers, 60 is fine for mortals

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

4k sucks for computing though, its really a tv spec. theres a reason why everyone gets 1440p for their pc monitor

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

computer monitors generally don't have HDR either, unless theyve started adding that recently

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

I bought a huge beautiful 5K monitor that only has USB-C inputs and can't be used with any console, AMA

lukas, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

how do you use it?

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

i already went through this whole thing a couple years ago when i got my ps4 pro and the cheapest solution by far was to buy a tv rather than upgrading my pc monitor. if you dont have room in your living space for one then uhh you can pay 4x as much for an equivalent monitor or just stick to good old 1080p it looks just fine with the 4k supersampling

ciderpress, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

It works great connected to my stupid Mac laptop that can't run any cool games

xp

lukas, Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

sounds like it might work for me then! i'm on the wrong thread for asking about displays (because i have a mac mini in mind)

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

4k sucks for computing though, its really a tv spec. theres a reason why everyone gets 1440p for their pc monitor

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4k or higher are excellent for non-gaming. the pixel doubling or proportional scaling, like what Apple has been doing on their high res displays for a long time, makes text much smoother and imo much easier on the eyes

mh, Friday, 13 November 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link

oh i guess if theres software to handle it properly now. wasn't the case yet a few years ago at least on pc

ciderpress, Friday, 13 November 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

might just be an apple thing still?

ciderpress, Friday, 13 November 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

Windows 10 works well, although not all older apps scale properly and look a little blurry. I use a 4k monitor for work with everything not doubled but scaled to 125/150% and it’s nice for all the things I use

mh, Friday, 13 November 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

Windows 10 works well, although not all older apps scale properly and look a little blurry.

I stopped paying attention to PC gaming/graphics specs a while back and mainly game on PS4, but I noticed my win10 laptop the other day had a toggle on it asking me if I wanted to try to make apps look less blurry. Like why the fuck would I _want_ them blurry? Just unblur the thing by default, Bill, you tit.

ALAB (onimo), Friday, 13 November 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

I have a 4K UHD 2160p monitor for my macbook air & it's excellent

All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 13 November 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

PonyStation 5

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

piss5

redalph, lord xyzzzz__ (||||||||), Friday, 13 November 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

after seeing the "difference" between the 60fps performance mode and 30fps fidelity mode in demons souls i feel confident in declaring that any game this upcoming gen that doesn't let you run it at 60fps is a scam

ciderpress, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

we're getting into audiophile snake oil territory of what extra detail you get running the game at 30

ciderpress, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

Hmm, it depends. Ray tracing seems expensive computationally. I could see things like draw distance, texture detail and other such things being a lot better at 30fps.

Nhex, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

The audiophile snake oil is surely in the "you really notice the 120 fps" direction?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

xp sure, i just don't think you can justify not including the performance mode as an option anymore now that the games aren't cpu-bound

1440p checkerboard looks pretty much identical to native 4k at tv viewing distance whereas 30 vs 60fps is a massively felt difference in action games

ciderpress, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

https://kotaku.com/two-weeks-with-my-ps5-1845670823

more info on the "cards" and jumping right into quests. looks like new Spider-Man supports it!

mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

I adore weird-looking consoles, chief among them, the purple GameCube, so I like that the PS5 looks like a giant, high-tech eclair.

i was always a Featureless Rectangle fan but i'm kinda coming around on this take

ciderpress, Monday, 16 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

I should measure but my dated tv console has a shelf wide enough for a ps4 plus a stack of disc boxes on the side. I think I relocate the boxes and I’m good

mh, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7VILMeN28

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

*checks wario64 again*

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

If eating Bugsnax turns you into a Bugsnax, is the only way to turn back into a Grumpus eating other Grumpuses?

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

15000 people ahead of me in the online queue in Curry's this morning was enough to convince me not be be an early adopter.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

the ps5 looks like a new expensive campus performing arts center that replaced three academic arts departments and cost $60 million dollars pic.twitter.com/mLwL921kRs

— matt (@matthiasellis) June 11, 2020

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link


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