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i'm completely baffled by the point your trying to make by looking at counties.

the state of california voted for biden by 35 and voted against progressive ballot measures. that means a ton of biden voters voted against progressive ballot measures. i don't see how where those people are in the state of california is relevant.

and given that, there are two possibilities.

1. either many californian democrats are not actually that progressive on labor/housing/tax. this makes total sense to me and is all i'm trying to say! california voters (and the california democratic party) are on average way, way more conservative than similarly democratic east cost states on labor, housing and taxation! this seems obvious?! they are not hypocrites. i don't care whether they call themselves liberal or what.

2. millions of biden voters voted against those measures from the left? is that what you're saying?

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link

i don't think she was talking about prop 19. or if she was, i'm not.

i'm talking about 15, rent control and 22.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link

either many californian democrats are not actually that progressive on labor/housing/tax. this makes total sense to me and is all i'm trying to say!

I agree with you, but I don't see how that supports what she said. Maybe I'm too focused on the "good liberals" phrase? ... the rent control one was awkward because I didn't see a lot of activism on it, probably because most of the progressive voters already live in municipalities with rent control. And the parts of the state that don't have rent control tend to be where the conservatives are. ... Also, I was unclear, would it have undone some of Costa Hawkins at all or just been an encouragement for rent control in general?

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link

rent control certainly lost some votes because the details of ballot measure process/coalition building tactics were terrible, thanks to one incredibly vain person

If Michael Weinstein wants to repeal Costa Hawkins, he should write a check for mid-8 figures and hand it to ACCE with no strings attached.

Weinsteinโ€™s barnacle-like campaign consultants and lawyers should have no role higher than signature gatherer.

— Ask Me About Prop. 15 (@TribTowerViews) November 5, 2020

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link

this is my favorite california politics tweet today.

Today @FixTheCityLA cofounder Jim Oโ€™Sullivan resigned as President of @MiracleMileMMRA. Jim wouldnโ€™t even let @nithyavraman speak at a MMRA meeting since he was SURE that @davideryu was going to win. He has held back progress in Miracle Mile for years.

๐Ÿ‘‹ Jim

โ™ฅ๏ธ Streets For All pic.twitter.com/tVr3Gcd0mE

— Streets For All (@streetsforall) November 5, 2020

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link

xp the rent control tweet -- lol at the username and image ...I agree with them ... I also have been at the top of the Trib tower fwiw

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link

ok now i wanna know who @tribtowerviews is IRL

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link

Just spoke with a rep from alameda county (where Prop 15 is currently up 30%) board of elections rep who said about 50% of ballots are still outstanding. #YesOn15 is still very much in this. #CountEveryVote pic.twitter.com/pJKleOeLcY

— David #FeinsteinsAgainstFeinsteins Shor (@itsmedasho) November 5, 2020

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

yeah sfgate is saying that Prop 15 (and Prop 19) are still too close to call.

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Anyone know how they expect the remaining votes to tilt on prop 15? It's losing by a little, but I don't know what votes are left in CA.

DJI, Friday, 6 November 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

I'm looking at the "unprocessed ballots" report and there are still about 20% (or so) of the total still to be counted. And it looks like there are over a million left between LA County, Alameda County, Santa Clara County, and SF alone (all 4 counties that were high in favor of Prop 15). But there are also a bunch of unprocessed ballots in counties that have high "no" totals like Orange, San Bernadino and Riverside. ... My instinct is that the mail in ballots will probably skew progressive in line with Covid cautiousness, so maybe it will pass.

sarahell, Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

^ this is just me looking at a pdf and then looking at the sos.ca.gov site results by county and doing a little math in my head -- undoubtedly if caek wanted to focus his talents on this issue, the results would be way more scientific lol

sarahell, Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

it's a big "maybe it will pass" from me too, but i am not optimistic about the usual leftward shift with late returns this time, because almost everyone voted early, so i think it's unlikely tbh :(

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 7 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

CA statewide COVID guidelines: Avoid social situations that bring together people from three different households at the same time in a single space or place.

Nov. 6: Gavin Newsom attends dinner with 12 people (from 6 households) at The French Laundry

Nov. 9: Newsom: โ€œ(The rise in COVID cases) is for obvious reasons. People are letting their guard down. Theyโ€™re taking their masks off. Theyโ€™re starting to get together outside of their household cohorts. Theyโ€™re starting to see businesses reopen and weโ€™re starting, again, to see more people mixing. As it gets colder, weโ€™ll see more still.โ€

Nov. 13: "While our family followed the restaurantโ€™s health protocols and took safety precautions, we should have modeled better behavior and not joined the dinner.โ€

Don't blame me, I voted for Matt Gonzalez.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 14 November 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

Thats his best friend, but more importantly it was indoors despite GN claiming it was outdoors.

EXCLUSIVE: We've obtained photos of Governor Gavin Newsom at the Napa dinner party he's in hot water over. The photos call into question just how outdoors the dinner was. A witness who took photos tells us his group was so loud, the sliding doors had to be closed. 10pm on @FOXLA pic.twitter.com/gtOVEwa864

— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) November 18, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

one of my best friends used to work at French Laundry when she was a teenager iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

just for the record, bill melugin is one of the worst people in the state of california

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

Yes, but he is a conduit to counter the bullshit that Newsom is spewing. Enemy of your enemy, etc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

(in this case, he's not on my radar at all)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

gosh i really expected so much better from the guy who divorced kim guilfoyle at 39 to hook up w 19 year old brittanie mountz

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

Sure. Just be aware that heโ€™s an โ€œpublic safetyโ€/law and order right win muckraker who is obviously aiming for promotion to national Fox News or whatever trump does next, and whose main source is the Los Angeles sherrifs department, whose leaks he credulously broadcasts.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

i think brittanie does marriage counseling now lol

buzza, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

i will never get tired of bringing her up, sorry not sorry

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

Joanna Newsom's cousin is a shit (allegedly)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

i will never get tired of bringing her up, sorry not sorry

โ€• the late great, Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:16 PM (thirty-one minutes ago)

her name is the pierre delecto of SF politics

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

curfew!!!

sarahell, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

LOL yeah right

the late great, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Welp, looks like we're back on lockdown until 2021 (Jan 4th).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

Actually looking forward to no obligations for Christmas ... thank you for cancelling Xmas, Gavin!

sarahell, Friday, 4 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

me too!

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

I spent the morning and early afternoon today wrapping presents, writing letters, and packing secure gift boxes to send to my loved ones, which I will take to UPS tomorrow, but I'm relieved not having to fly or drive or risk my life to please relatives or friends

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

Wow you are way more on top of the holiday season than I am ... I'm like, "that one year where we did Christmas in January because I got the flu on Christmas Eve and slept for two days straight? That was a good Christmas."

sarahell, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

I am worried about people in my life, how they are handling this

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

in OR not CA but yeah, me too. family in Humboldt.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

and Long Beach... stepson & his wife get tested every week

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

There goes one of the possible senate picks https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/06/us/politics/xavier-becerra-hhs-health-secretary.html

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

Still feel like me and many of my savvy progressive friends are like, "Please take our centrist city officials and appoint them to higher office!" ... C'mon Biden / Gavin -- Libby Schaaf really deserves to move up and out!

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

Oakland's City Attorney just won re-election -- she definitely deserves a job at the state level

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

Libby didn't get caught eating at French Laundry either !!!

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

It looks a lot like Garcetti is going to get transportation by being โ€œnot Rahm Emmanuelโ€

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

normal system

part of the reason Newsom was holding off on naming Harris's replacement for the Senate was his awareness that there was a chance of Becerra's HHS nomination, and that he'd potentially get a chance to balance these appointments

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) December 6, 2020

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

if he appoints Padilla to the Senate then he will get to replace two state-wide offices. I don't know much about Padilla, I voted for him for Secretary of State but he hasn't been a real personality in California politics for the general public as far as I know.

Not sure who I hope he names to the Senate

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/12/06/california-exits-give-newsom-rare-chance-to-pick-3-high-profile-leaders-1342605

the fact that this is so rare is a measure of how little success california democrats have had nationally.

absolutely insane way of running a state btw.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

what are you talking about, california democrats have had amazing success

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

and Newsom is running the state well and is trying to protect us as far as I can see

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

none of these articles about the Senate seat explain the process if a sitting Congressperson gets appointed Senator -- does the Governor then appoint their replacement? Is there a special election? ... Anyway, I actually agree with Willie Brown and think it should be between Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, and Karen Bass ... guessing the latter two also represent districts where the Democrat would have to be like a convicted pedophile or sadistic sex criminal in order for a Republican to win.

sarahell, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

what are you talking about, california democrats have had amazing success

โ€• Dan S, Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:14 PM (nineteen minutes ago)

pretty sure caek means in terms of becoming President or Vice-President or holding major cabinet posts ... California Republicans historically have done so, but Democrats, not really (at least as far back as when the Democrats were to the "left" of Republicans before they swapped)

sarahell, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link

in terns of becoming "president or vice president or holding major cabinet posts"

it's Christmas so I'm really inclined to fantasize

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 05:08 (three years ago) link


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