Ideas for ILX

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Why is link-vs-embed better as a choice the poster makes for everyone vs a reader option?

stet, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

ah, um, well you see, it's because I totally didn't think my way around that particular corner

scampo-phenique (WmC), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

I just want to be able to paste whatever stupid YouTube format and get an embed.

DJI, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

in some ways, i think we all want that

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

embed should be a reward you get for being able to think for 2.3 seconds about what you post, not a default

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

also auto-embeds really shit up poll discussion threads, which I acknowledge many posters would see as a positive feature

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

But again you can turn them off if you don’t want to see them, or am I missing something? Genuine q - like, do you think that other people seeing things embedded you don’t want them to is changing the nature of answers or something?

stet, Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

I think we should make joe biden a mod

treeship., Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

Would certainly help cut down on the malarkey

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

ILX System should be deployed to count votes in Pennsylvania

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

But again you can turn them off if you don’t want to see them, or am I missing something? Genuine q - like, do you think that other people seeing things embedded you don’t want them to is changing the nature of answers or something?

I can see people wanting images embedded , but not videos. Links to videos are also useful bcz you can open the video in another window and half-watch while continuing to read the thread.

Right now I think it's super-useful for the poster to be able to embed if they mean to, or link via Belgium if they mean to do that - it seems to me to be removing functionality to embed Belgian tubes.

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

Also switching to all-embed is coddling ppl who refuse to read their own posts before clicking "submit," and I'm in favour of gulags for people who don't encouraging people to consider what they C&P.

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

please don't distract stet from my much more important idea with this youtube business

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

my bookmarks, they're dying

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

bump

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

If I wish to post a youtube video just for a cheap referential joke, embedding is better than the link, because someone can look at the embed and be amused by the reference without having to click and go listen to find out what has been linked.

Alternatively, that person can be like, "oh yeah I had forgotten how awesome that song is" and go to it.

However, as it stands now, if you mess up the syntaxes or just paste a mobile link, then no one knows what referential jest is being made unless they follow the link, which is sometimes just too much trouble.

Accordingly I humbly ask that the code accommodate multiple modes of pasting a YT link, because it's tough to remember whether it's watch question mark vee equals or equals vee watch question mark and hand-code appropriately.

That's my case and I am sticking to it.

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

Ye might be Mad, Puffin, but ye are also otm

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

people trying to make referential jokes should simply take screenshots of the youtube video and embed those

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

otm

https://i.imgur.com/gX1CiK6.jpg

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

Silby, that's like five more steps. Are you suggesting I take a screenshot, download it locally, upload it to a site like imgur (or whatever), copy the url, then put it in my ilx post as an img tag?

By that point the conversation has moved on and it isn't funny or topical anymore.

In contrast, everything on YouTube is already online and can be linked to directly.

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

You could write a command line tool that does all those steps for you

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

also you were pwned by an xpost

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

but the also mooted-by-stet inbuilt image hosting would streamline this

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

Fuck all y'all

https://bi.im-g.pl/im/4/8762/z8762534Q,Rick-Astley.jpg

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

And I say that with all the love in the world

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

I just clicked the play button on that still
https://media1.tenor.com/images/2d3038f6270517912a838b6ea2516b77/tenor.gif

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

Just popping in to say any of the above that will spare me the humiliation of 11, 12 13 consective feailed embed-attempts

I never used to have this problem! Did YT re-jig something in recent years?

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 November 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

You could write a command line tool that does all those steps for you

― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:42 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

YMP otmfm.

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Thursday, 5 November 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

I never used to have this problem! Did YT re-jig something in recent years?

"Yeah they seem to sprinkle the "feature=YouTu.be" string in all over the URL depending on how you share it."

you could just delete this tbf

― MOAR PETE (sic), Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:44 PM (eight months ago)

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

Haha I was like "is Karl Malone turning into sic or something with this shit?" and then realized it was you. :)

DJI, Thursday, 5 November 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

#oneposter

@RealKarlMalone™ (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

#oneworldthread

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 November 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

> it's tough to remember whether it's watch question mark vee equals or equals vee watch question mark and hand-code appropriately.

This could be eased by adding an example to the 'formatting help' text.

koogs, Thursday, 5 November 2020 06:10 (three years ago) link

idea: ilx clippy, a helper on every single screen who pops up and lets you now how they can help

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 November 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link

Add a post!

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 November 2020 06:49 (three years ago) link

it looks like you're trying to post a truncated youtube link, is that correct?

Clay, Thursday, 5 November 2020 07:19 (three years ago) link

It looks like you're trying to flag this post. Confirm?

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Thursday, 5 November 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

Youtube used to helpfully have an option to get the long link from the share button which was compatible with the ilx embed code. Now it doesn't.
Lots of us use mobile devices now, some of us exclusively, so it's hard to get long links.
Pissing around with 'watch question mark vee equals' etc results in threads full of unplayable black boxes.

It would make sense for the site to now support the shorter links for embeds (and for users/sic to be able to disable them).

Also add autoplay...

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 5 November 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

Or just add the correct syntax instructions to the "Show formatting help" text.

Currently all it says is:

For Tweets, or YouTube/Vimeo videos: Paste in the URL of the tweet or the page containing the video you wish to embed

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Those instructions from a youtube app rather than a desktop browser would still be 5 steps to inevitable black boxes

Copy the link from the share button on the app, change youtu.be to youtube.com, we can't remember if this bit needs www or not, oh wait we forgot to remove the s from the http bit lol that's a pain in the arse to click your cursor into with a wee phone screen, right, now delete everything after the dot com and type watch ? = then the character string you just deleted and it's case sensitive now just cover your eyes and hit submit oh shit you forgot the forward slash or is it a backslash hang on

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

Also add autoplay...

this sounds like a GREAT move for threads with 120 embedded videos, stet you should definitely get distracted from silby's bookmarks idea

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

we used to have autoplay tho -- there was one thread that was whiney-adjacent that used it to hilarious result

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

the only good use of autoplay (possibly on the entire internet!) is uppers.gif

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 5 November 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

oh yeahhhhhh at one point it would autoplay on the admin log. that made me happy.

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

I may not have been entirely serious...

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

:)

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

silby i've done the bump-all-bookmarks thing, there's a new link at the top of the bookmarks page.

(well, it will be there after the next server restart — i'm not doing it right now because it's a ten-minute outage and what if they call this fucking thing)

stet, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

Causing the call to happen by restarting would totally be worth it.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

Is there even a They to call it?

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link


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