Star Wars: The Mandalorian

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We had a midget alien R. Lee Ermey type in that series, anything can happen.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

At the other end of that extreme, I totally failed to recognise the dude in the final tease and had to have it explained to me afterwards.

The same happened with me and my wife. I wonder if the makers of the series really expected the majority of the viewers to know who the dude was, or was it more like an Easter egg for superfans, since his identity will obviously be revealed in future episodes. Because in order to know who the dude was, you'd have to A) have seen the prequels in recent memory and remember what Temuera Morrison looked like in them, B) realise this is the same actor, even though he looked quite different in that short scene shot 20 years later, and C) remember that Boba Fett is a clone of the character he played in the prequels, so they would look alike. I can't imagine most casual viewers actually doing all that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the reveal at the end totally went over my head.

Would have been a great moment if they'd made it slightly more obvious who it was. I think I've only seen AOTC once and that was in the cinema when it came out.
And it was only on subsequent reading that I found out that the character that Olyphant was playing is actually from one of the many SW books and that the Mandalorian armour he was carrying is BF's

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link

I did figure out who the armor belonged to, because, you know, how many of such pieces are there likely to be on Tatooine?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

I also did not know who dude at the end was, but I agree that they probably will make very sure we know all about him if they start properly including him in the story, especially given dialogue like "it's come back!" when the enormous dragon thing bursts out of the ground right where we can all see it.

trishyb, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

I had a hell of time explaining to my other half (who had a somewhat less Star Wars obsessed childhood than me) that the Mandalorian and Boba Fett are not actually the same person

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link

...and that Boba Fett is not actually a Mandalorian. I can see why she was confused.

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

this continues to be a lot of fun! i really appreciate that the stakes and the emotional drama is kept in cartoonish check... the show doesn't want me to CARE about any of these characters and that makes it more easy for me to take it as the low-key, disney entertainment (tm) done right that it is. Favreau really has the formula down. Marshall Raylan Fett was a real joy.

i missed the "boba fett" reveal at the end entirely, not that it particularly matters at this stage. Working him into the storyline is a reasonable and good idea.

Glad I stuck around for the credits as I would otherwise never have realized that the bartender Weequay was W Earl Brown aka Dan Dority! Great thread here:

“What’s your feeling about a prosthetics gig? I know you’ve said you hate it,” it was my agent on the other end of the call.

My mind flashed back to my days of misery spent as the demon, Menlo, on the tv series, ANGEL. I had eagerly jumped at the chance...

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— W. Earl Brown (@WEarlBrown) October 30, 2020

"Jon is ready for rehearsals” In a daze, I am lead to my Mos Pelgo’s Cantina. There’s Tim. There’s Pedro. I look around, but don’t see the other actor I’m supposed to be working with. I stand behind the bar. For shits & giggles, I say to Tim, “you oughta pin that fuckin’badge to yer chest, you’re hypocrite enough to wear it.” Tim and I proceed to play out scenes from our old show. We get a few giggles from the HBO watchers. Jon walks on set, laughing “I swear to God, I love that show — I absolutely idolize Milch. We cast you first,” pointing at Tim, “when I said ‘hire Earl Brown’ I did not consciously think I was recreating your DEADWOOD dynamic, but here we are — DEADWOOD In Space… Okay, let’s rehearse” “Can we improvise and throw a few ‘Cocksuckers’ into the dialogue, as tribute?”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

Can someone summarize the timeline/backstory related to the character at the end? We’re all confused at my house

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

Long long ago in a galaxy far far away, fanservice

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

So, there are a lot of variations covered in the novels and expanded universe, but just sticking with the movies here. Boba Fett was a Mandalorian armored bounty hunter that, in the original trilogy, was knocked into the Sarlacc Pit on Tattooine "accidentally" by a temporarily blind Han Solo, presumably left to slowly digest for a thousand years. He hasn't officially been seen in the movie/TV universe since (although his origins were covered in the prequel trilogy). At the start of the episode, the implication is that maybe Jawas managed to somehow scavenge his armor to sell to Cobb Vanth, but the end of the episode reveals he very much survived the Sarlacc incident.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

TY Jon

So the timeline of this series is after the orginal SW movie trilogy...

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

Yes, not sure this is a spoiler but it takes place about five years after the second Death Star blew up in Return of the Jedi.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

That is explicitly referenced in this episode!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

Tbf they mention the aftermath of the Death Star II but did they say anything about the amount of time that has passed? Might have missed that.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

I mean, it might not be Boba Fett considering there were roughly eight zillion clones, although the non-Boba ones would be considerably older than him since he wasn’t fast-aged to adulthood.

Given the planet and this episode’s salvaged armor plot device, probably it’s just him

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

They should have given W. Earl Brown more lines so I would have noticed that it was him!
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mandalorians-w-earl-brown-recounts-his-special-dea-1845549470

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

absolutely loving the pure joy in this tweet

The teamster pulls into the gate. Another person takes over and drives me onto the set….

Its Tatooine. I AM ON TATOOINE!!! HELL YEAH!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

I get out of the van. Right next to me — is a life-sized Bantha puppet. I touched it — A BANTHA!!! I TOUCHED A BANTHA!

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— W. Earl Brown (@WEarlBrown) October 30, 2020

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

That's great!

It did bug me a little when Olyphant called the Weequay bartender "Weequay" instead of an actual name, but I wondered if that was a subtle commentary about when they'd call the Latinx characters in Westerns generic nicknames.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Why are we using spoiler tags? Are ppl coming here before watching each episode?

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Tbf, so many Death Stars have been blown up over the years, it's hard to keep track xps

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

It would make a lot more sense honestly it was one of the surviving clones, as so many have been examined in Clone Wars (and from what I hear, Rebels) and the age of being ~60 yrs old makes more sense. Boba Fett should be in his 40s at the time of this episode, assuming it is him.

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Oops, I mean, SPOILERS?

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

I was just following precedent when using the spoiler tags, since we have them now. Not sure how many that actually impacts.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I actually agree that the spoiler tags should be used this close to the airdate, I goofed.

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Yeah, feel like it's pretty harmless within a couple days of a new episode.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

If it turns out to be a random clone, that's really dumb.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Oh agreed, which is why I'm pretty confident that's actually him.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

FWIW, here's an article with the same "maybe not..." speculation. (It points out that the clonetroopers would actually be older, due to accelerated aging - unless this one figured out how to reverse that.)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

i think three days of spoiler tags is appropriate; how's the thread feel about that?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

I agree! They're awkward

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

They should have revealed it was Al Swearengen instead.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

perhaps sarlaac digestive juices have excellent anti ageing properties? xps

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

I didn't recognize that guy was supposed to be a clone trooper. I'll have ask the 8-year old superfan when he gets home from school if he figured that out.

o. nate, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

xp No, it's the other way around - assuming it's BF, the No-Prize answer for why he looks older than 41 is that he's had a rough few years. There's no scenario in which a Clonetrooper ended up in the Sarlaac (unless there's some mega-retconning going on)!

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

i'm gonna stop spoilering posts now: are we meant to assume that the sand dragon ate the sarlaac, as mando suggested, and that was Jabba's sarlaac and that somewhere betwixt lips and hips boba got out, got stripped of his armor and is now living as a ronin amidst the sand dunes?
brb, got some fanfic to write

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

I believe that is the implication, yes (he escaped in the OG/"Legends" canon as well, so it's not out of the blue).

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

(And seeing Mando survive digestion by a Krayt dragon, while wearing similar armor, helps sell the idea that Fett could survive the Sarlaac.)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

i guess the open question is what's he doing out there? why did the tusken raiders not bring him up with mando when they were talking about finding help tackling the dragon? maybe they're scared of him as the ghost of the desert and he's a TUSKEN HUNTER as potentially evidenced by his carrying a gaderffii on his back?

NB: the gaderffii is among the dumbest of the SW jerry-rigged props/action figure weapons but it sure is easily recognizable

ooh, maybe Kelly Reichardt is directing the next episode as a mandolorian/first cow crossover and boba could be stealing bantha milk and selling tatooine frybread back to the tusken commander

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

lol, i know more about this universe than i would like to admit but it's all limited to the original trilogy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

xp We may get some of these answers! If Fett has "gone native," he may just be another weird dude in the desert to the Tuskens, and not worth mentioning (their concerns seem more... immediate). They also may not know that Fett ever wore the armor, if he ditched it soon after escaping the Sarlaac.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

are we meant to assume that the sand dragon ate the sarlaac, as mando suggested, and that was Jabba's sarlaac and that somewhere betwixt lips and hips boba got out, got stripped of his armor and is now living as a ronin amidst the sand dunes?
I don't think the sarlacc the dragon had eaten was the same sarlacc that ate Boba. The marshall dude specifically said that a sarlacc never leaves its pit, and the pit where the dragon now resided was in a completely different location than the one in RotJ.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Yeah wait, I missed that part. Of course it's a different Sarlaac.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

gotta eat more than one sarlaac to get by my friend

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

(the script does a nice job of introducing the idea of multiple Sarlaacs with a throwaway line)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

I liked when the raiders held up the egg at the end when they were harvesting the meat

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

sand dwellers love eggs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

i think three days of spoiler tags is appropriate; how's the thread feel about that?

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses),

I kind think if you don't want spoilers don't open the thread till you've watched the episode, but maybe that's a bit harsh.

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Not an egg, though:

https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-season-2-krayt-dragon-pearl-lightsabers-explained/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

I mean sure an EASTER egg haha wait please don't kill me

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link


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