well idk i found the first dance of death absolutely breathtaking, willing to admit i don't know anything about dance i guess
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I still haven't seen it because the first movie (like Halloween or Texas Chainsaw, say) really didn't need a remake, and certainly while the original is flawed, the way it looks is all-time, and even then I didn't want another hour of it.
How do they compare to the dance sequences in "Climax?" Because those were cool, too, and also the best part of the movie, which I'll probably never see again. (Though would likely see again over any of Noe's other films.)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
i haven't seen climax! now i want to bc i can endure any kind of annoying garbage if there's dancing
the suspiria remake has basically nothing to do with the original, the only overlap is "dance school run by witches." guadagnino could've just called it something else
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
I am not firmly anti-Noe but Climax bored me silly tbh
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
I forgot to mention my favorite joke in Possessor: subjecting Sean Bean to his grisliest "death" yet but then announcing via newscast that he is still alive
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 5 November 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
Has this been mentioned anywhere here? A student recommended it. Looks good!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYY0QJhlXjc
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 November 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
If you like yr horror humorless, hopeless, and oppressive, Bryan Bertino's The Dark and the Wicked, recently added to Shudder, is for you.
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
His House was very good.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
Triangle Spoilers!
I watched Triangle last night. I didn't think it was entirely successful but I think it worked as a free-floating metaphor for the difficulties of single motherhood and the tortuous guilt of simultaneously wanting to die for your kid and (un/subconsciously) wanting them dead. I don't think it really earned it's 18 certificate and kinda wish it had spent more time on the kills and I've only got a certain amount of patience with an actor being asked to pull essentially the same face for an hour and a half but I had fun with it. I liked the 'Room 237' nod.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
Is that the Melissa George Triangle? She pulls that face for the duration of every film she's in
― or something, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link
Aye, Melissa George. I think that's unfair: she had two faces in The Limey.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
Holy shit, we watched Triangle last night, too! Or I should I say, I watched it for the third time, with my daughter, who was seeing it for the first time. She had a blast reading internet theories afterward. It's held up great for me on multiple viewings.
But wait, 18 Certificate? Is that the equivalent of X or NC-17? No way does Triangle come remotely close to that. Where was this rated 18+?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
Has this been mentioned anywhere here? A student recommended it. Looks good!
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 November 2020 17:10 (two weeks ago)
I really enjoyed His House, quite unique I thought and extremely accomplished for a debut.
― chap, Monday, 2 November 2020 13:35 (two weeks ago)
― chap, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
Triangle is an 18 on Amazon Prime UK - I was expecting/hoping for more gore! It's definitely got under my skin. Will try a rewatch at some point.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
Weird, I just looked at its UK listing and it's on there twice, once as 18+ (which is nuts) and once as 15+, which seems a lot more accurate. Dunno if it works, but here is a link to the 15+ one I saw:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Triangle-Melissa-George/dp/B00H36HENK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=triangle+movie&qid=1606057641&sr=8-2
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
(If you want a bit more gore, his movie Severance is loads of fun.)
15+ definitely makes more sense. I'm convinced it was 18+ but I'd had a couple beers so... Te last five minutes of this were so good. Love the theory that the taxi driver is Ares and she Sisyphus being punished for cheating death ('you will comeback, right?' )
I'm going to try and find Timecrimes, which I've read is similar but the better film.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Time times is tremendous, have put Triangle on my watchlist. Viewer ratings also mention Coherence which I enjoyed too.
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
Triangle I think is better than Timecrimes, but Timecrimes is more fun, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link
Severance and Coherence on this list, cheers. Timecrimes is basically unavailable (legally) in the UK.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
Anyone watched any of the new Blumhouse line-up on Amazon? We watched Black Box, it was pretty well done, the twists in the story were effective.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
Kind of hate blumhouse but also interested to know whether any of these are worthwhile
― or something, Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link
So Possessor gets a UK release on 27th. I don't really want to go to the cinema but this is the best excuse I'm ever going to have to break that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 22 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
Just watched Koko-Di Koko-Da, which I thought was very good. Is it folk horror? I'm going to say yes.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 3 December 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link
not yr question but general attn: saw the Blumhouse "Freaky Friday The 13th" flick FREAKY at the drive-in last week, by the Happy Death day dude. totally recommended if the description sounds of interst, and if Vince Vaughan's irl MAGA-ness won't stop you enjoying him play a bodyswapped teenage girl with mild flouncing. Like last year's April W0lfe Black Christmas reversion, it's mainly aimed at teenage girls, but also at a family (that's open to horror/comedy)(and queer teen) audience.
― huge rant (sic), Thursday, 3 December 2020 07:11 (three years ago) link
xp to Koko-Di Koko-Da
the twee rabbit puppetry was a bit much and it sometimes spins off the rails but Koko-Di was genuinely unsettling and slowly opened up into something much more complex than it seemed. As far as surreal Swedish meditations on loss and shattered identity told through horror tropes go, it would be a good back-to-back with Persona.I caught it at a late-night pre-release free screening in the city and the woman next to me clearly thought she had come to a standard horror movie and spent the third reel loudly opining out loud variations on "THIS SHIT CRAZY" and "What the fuck GOING ON in this movie?"― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:55 PM
I caught it at a late-night pre-release free screening in the city and the woman next to me clearly thought she had come to a standard horror movie and spent the third reel loudly opining out loud variations on "THIS SHIT CRAZY" and "What the fuck GOING ON in this movie?"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:55 PM
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
‘Freaky’ might even be halfway okay if Vince Vaughn were not so immensely fucking terrible in it. Female lead is great tho!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 December 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link
Vaughn’s continuous “OMIGAWD I AM A GIRRRRRRRRL” mincing is offensive and poorly executed, even if the genderflip romance stuff is pleasantly transgressive
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 December 2020 06:55 (three years ago) link
the stereotypiness in Vaughan's performance is way more to the silly fun side than the egregious side imo. though yes, it would read worse if the rest of the film wasn't so casually queer.
also I took the disparity between his tone and Newton's as a way of heightening the fact that she was the lead, and/or an homage to Face / Off.
― huge rant (sic), Saturday, 5 December 2020 08:04 (three years ago) link
Watched Possessor last night. It's one of those movies about a Magical Technology that exists in the two hours between the invention of the technology and the moment the general public learns about its existence, at which point it can never be used again. The performances were all really good, though, especially Jennifer Jason Leigh as the creepy-predatory boss, and the main male actor. The scenes where he was walking around in a stroke-face mask (I don't want to say much more) were creepy as hell.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
Freaky was OK, would have been 75% better if it had been 25% less dumb
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
That's about right.
― huge rant (sic), Saturday, 5 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
i'm open to different takes on if/how offensive vaughn's performance is but it feels undeniable that he's just BAD; the parts where he's onscreen are straight up boring. and yes, the whole package needed to be considerably less stupid in general.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
I think Vaughn is a good actor who was coaxed into doing too broad a performance
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 December 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link
new on Shudder: Stephen Lang, William Sadler and Fred Williamson(!!) as elder asskickers in VFW and uhh Bertrans Bonello's Zombi Child. OK then!
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
*Bertrand
anyone seen the VFW guy's previous movie Bliss? looks wild
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
in fact I am midway through and pausing to say holy shit this movie
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link
dora madison...incredible
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link
wow VFW rules so far too....if he makes it a hat trick he's getting a thread
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link
hobo with a green room
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
Possessor was great even if jon snow seemed to be struggling playing the Iago. Cronenbeg fils definitely trained at the school of his father.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 06:05 (three years ago) link
Wasn't crazy about Possessor. Seemed like a few interesting ideas and good images strung together but lacked much coherence. I haven't liked Christopher Abbott in anything I've seen him in yet either
― or something, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link
Chris Abbott is real good y'all tripping imo
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
keep thinking about Bliss and its accidentally Verhoevian sense of sleaze
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link
Watched the uncut Possessor tonight. Not entirely convinced it held together and it felt very televisual in places (not a criticism; I'm not even entirely sure what I mean) but the impact was considerable. Cronenburg senior is everywhere, but it's as much a homage to Cronenburg's influences, I guess - Ballard, Philip K. Dick. I liked the commentary on the hellscape of corporate work (Sean Bean quoting Walter Benjamin under a mock-up Sistine Chapel roof), and the sound design was excellent - particularly the grunge and glunge of bodies. I want to watch it again already!
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 December 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
Cronenberg, ffs.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 December 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link
I've woken up thinking about Possessor and specifically why I wasn't 100% convinced (and why I want to watch it again to check) I think it comes down to Abbot's central performance and what Cronenberg's tasking him to portray: essentially to exteriorise an interior drama - that of the battle for control for a consciousness. It's basically trying to reify a metaphor and it resulted in lots of close-ups and mid-shots of Abbot looking bewildered/in mental torment. I loved it when it switched to more concrete portrayals of this drama, for instance, the whole sequence with Abbot in a Riseborough mask will stay with me forever (was it a deliberate nod to the Myers mask from Halloween?) and the beautiful latex orgy of the transformation scenes. Anyway, I'm sounding really negative and I had a blast with it.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 13 December 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link
I think that's a fair complaint
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 December 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
that said he's better than a few of the leads in early D. Cronenberg movies lol
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
Agreed on all points. A better actor could have made this a great movie, but it works nonetheless.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link