"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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Yeah I thought of the WI +17 too. Are polls like that normal in the final week if the race truly is stable? I dunno usually I don’t try to pay attention to the minutia

Good news is there were some CNN polls in 4 swing states, all good results for Biden, even with an entire MOE in Trumps favor he’s easily winning WI and MI, and slightly winning AZ and PA

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

There's gonna be Cuban missiles on Mars, and we are gonna free South Vietnam from the Branch Davidians

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link

He's talked about Mars for a couple of years - better to go there because the moon isn't exciting, very low energy

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link

Moon is a liberal star

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

i thought the military was giving everyone free regeneron? did i dream this?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link

Separate thought too re mail ballots in general — if you look at Elections Project’s site you’ll see that 33 million mail ballots aren’t returned and that might freak you out. But: literally over a third of those are California, where the state mailed out a ballot to everyone; a large amount would never be returned anyway, etc. That could affect internal contests but not the presidential end result. So it’s 21 million in practical terms, and a number of those are similarly in states that switched to sending one out to all, again not expecting everyone to vote that way. So basically check out the states individually — and see what they’ve done or haven’t done — to see where concern might matter.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

so one thing I'm trying to square

a lot of polling of early voters is showing that they tend to lean heavily Dem - I'm seeing stuff like "people who voted early are 63-37 Biden, those who plan to vote in person are 61-39 Trump".

but when you break it down by party registration there seems to be a fairly even R/D split, and the 65+ demo leads all age groups. which implies that a lot of registered R's and seniors are voting Biden, as well as a huge chunk of independents. this seems like good news, but I'm not seeing any of the 538 guys comment on it yet. so what's going on here?

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

Mother mother
Everybody thinks the polls are wrong

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

Because as our own caek has always indicated with his sign tapping you can’t know for sure quite that. It’s certainly a strong assumption — McDonald and Wasserman keep going back and forth on this — but it’s just not a guarantee.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

Selzer in Iowa is the best pollster in the country so that poll should be taken seriously.

But it doesn’t make a ton of sense.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

this seems like good news, but I'm not seeing any of the 538 guys comment on it yet. so what's going on here?


The polling people are generally of the view that you should not use early voting data which tells you something that may or may not correlate with the outcome, and is based on early voting in unprecedented circumstances, when you have perfectly good polls lying around.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

Meantime once again

Trump has finished and left, but there’s thousands of supporters who have been let loose into the night with no sign of the shuttles they’ve been told will take them back to parking. People are filling the street, blocking the road for ambulances and police. pic.twitter.com/uMgfvUZ4Jg

— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

don't read too much into one poll, move on

bush ii also made a big thing of Mars for some reason in one of his SOTUs. somewhere there must be some single-issue crank GOP consultant who just really loves Mars and keeps generating studies promising it's an electoral winner.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

xp

It’s 41° for those wondering. https://t.co/jk4B24ecJS

— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) November 1, 2020

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

Silver is nettled

Man, Democrats' anxiety levels is off the charts. Which, of course. But it's a good night to have a glass of wine or whatever and chill out about the polls. It's pretty unlikely that the overall polling outlook is going to look much different on Tuesday morning than it does now.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 1, 2020



We've gotten a lot of data, most of it very recent. 91 million people have already voted. There's no October surprise unless you want to count the latest COVID spike, which isn't good news for Trump. Trump can win but there's not much indication of a last-minute surge toward him.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 1, 2020

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

There’s a comment in there about some bad polling dropping midnight, not taking that seriously but Jesus Christ my nerves are getting frazzled

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

now that Trump is officially history, can we talk about the size of Hunter Biden's schlong in that new Chinese sex tape?

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

...if it's OK with DJP, that is

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

I clicked over to @Politics_Polls, saw a Wisconsin poll with Trump +1 and my heart sank. Pollster is AtlasIntel, which is rated B/C by 538, but people don't seem to be taking it seriously. I dunno.

jaymc, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

I’m really not worried about Biden winning at all. It’s all about the Senate for me.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

This seems somewhat reassuring (headline if you don't want to click: "Trump has cast doubt on a peaceful transfer of power, but the preparation for one is well underway").

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/politics/presidential-transition-planning/index.html

clemenza, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

Anita Dunn, a senior adviser to the Biden campaign and Harvey Weinstein

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

xxp yeah the Senate seems much more iffy

Dan S, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

The Atlas poll was an online poll. Those are low quality

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

I wonder if Nate silver is aware of the senate election in Iowa

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

Xpost lots of idiots saying IT'S A TREND. RACE TIGHTENING

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah the Atlas one was like 89% white so Trump +1 ain’t so bad

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

xp ugh

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

xxxxxp I agree with Dan S

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

Cory Gardner's loss cancels out Doug Jones' loss, those seem like givens. I think Mark Kelly and Cal Cunningham will win, but I'm not confident about Sara Gideon beating Susan Collins, or about any of the other senate races

Dan S, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

I don't think they've done another poll in the state

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

so, like, I'm trying to be cool and read the room here: am I understanding that we do not want to talk about the size of Hunter Biden's gigantic schlong? just asking

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

xp yeah Naenderthal's right, I double checked and they haven't done another poll in that particular state

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

hehehe that's great! funny post, f. hazel. I was just listening to Yo La Tengo's cover of that on their covers album Yo La Tengo is Murdering the Classics (Egon Records, 2006)

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link

anyone else on this board like Yo La Tengo? I know Dr. Morbious did...

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

could you stop posting, please?

brimstead, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link

do.............................................. you want me to answer that?

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

cause like, answering your question requires me to post. so, yeah

lemme know if I can post to answer your question

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

here's a URL for all you politics junkies out dere

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/politics/cnn-polls-michigan-wisconsin-arizona-north-carolina/index.html

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

edited for dog profanity (sic)
Posted: October 31, 2020 at 16:40:20
Trump in PA explicitly saying he’s counting on the Supreme Court to throw the election


Twitter now rightly flagging that clip as manipulated media. Trump was being sarcastic when he thanked the Supreme Court, having just been whining about the court allowing ballots to be counted in some states late and thus delaying the election result.

Alba, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

Lol at gyacs link. HE DID IT AGAIN

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

xp thank you for posting, Alba! bluggggggh, I hate Trump. hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate Trump. cannot wait until he gets a swift kick in his boompa and leaves the White House, Washington D.C., USA! it's Joe time baby :)

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

sorry I know I'm posting a lot right now but I just wanted to say that I also really liked gyac's funny second twitter embed of the freezing cold torture! I mean, I HATE it, but I also really like it! you fellow ilxors know what I mean

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

This is like luriqua posting after a stint at the Betty Ford clinic

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

xp (I guess I should clarify that it wasn't technically freezing cold. freezing cold is 32° F but it was 41° F there)

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

I figured out this Hunter Biden laptop thing. It’s just like Willy Wonka’s golden ticket. You find one and you get to spend a magical day at Fox News. I hear Tucker does an impressive barrel roll.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

Early voting over 91 million and that does in essence mean another milestone per Elections Project — over 66% of the entire 2016 vote, two thirds. A remarkable amount.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

burrito I like Yo La Tengo a lot

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link

me too dude, me too

xp wow, just wow

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link


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