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sorry, unbelievable, not undone. to many un shows.

BTW, ignore the weak reviews, I found The Craft: Legacy, entirely entertaining. We watched it immediately after rewatching the Craft and IMO it compares favorably.

Maisie Williams's HBOMax show isn't bad? Lightweight but occasionally amusing.

is anyone watching The Undoing on hbomax?
it’s very annoying but with v nice houses & clothing

i hate it so much but nicole's coats are great. also it completely diverges from the book it's based on

is the book worth reading? i may investigate.

I enjoyed the first two episodes when it was all a bit intriguing but it's been pretty run of the mill since then.

The Undoing is both absurd and completely gripping. Nicole certainly has the 'beautiful extremely rich white woman married to a psycho' role buttoned up for good. It's still very hard for me to buy Hugh Grant as a secret psycho but I guess that's part of the point.

Other HBO Max things I liked well enough: extremely english shows "Two Weeks to Live" with Maise Williams and "I Hate Suzie" with Billie Piper.

the anna kendrick rom com sit com "love life" was kinda ok

The Undoing is, as far as I've seen, hilariously over the top and enjoyable. the new yorker review (which i didn't bother reading) labelled it 'Empty Life-style Porn' and i was like, duh, of cours ethat is the entire point.

And Maura, yes, Nicole's coats gorgeous and after talking to my cuz abt one specific one and how i was wondering how costume designer picked it, came across this in a Guardian piece on Suzanne Bier the director
The Undoing takes place in New York’s winter and, at least on social media, the most controversial outfit has been one of Grace’s coats. It’s double-breasted, chameleon green with a ruffled texture almost like astrakhan – and yes, a hood. There’s a strong Scottish Widows vibe. Bier and Sejlund had it made specially for the series. “We wanted it to be beautiful and majestic, but also something that I hadn’t really seen anybody wearing,” says Bier. “Maybe we should make a clothing line!”

good to know it's 'diverging completely' from the book since I spoiled it for myself after episode one. still feel like it might wind up in the same place though.

Obviously I know the answer is $$$$$ and who is willing to pay for what, but I still find it fascinating to see where shows land on streaming. Like NBC finally launches their own streaming service and Seinfeld, arguably one of the network's top five sitcoms (if not shows), is coming in 2021 to.... Netflix.

I'm guessing this kind of old TV comfort viewing really must be some kind of insanely huge percentage of stream activity. You would think it's a better investment to produce more their own material with that $400-500M.

Seinfeld and Friends are probably the only series I can think of that would command those kinds of numbers for streaming at this point (the Star Trek series would too, I think).

is anyone watching The Undoing on hbomax?
it’s very annoying but with v nice houses & clothing

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:55 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

this show is ludicrous.

feels obvious to me that Donald Sutherland is the actual killer as well, or maybe he's just a red-herring

yeah i surmised that & rage-quit bc it was trying my patience

Sorry to Bother You is now on UK Netflix and is well worth your time!

Great movie, probably worth also mentioning on the Netflix thread.

So prime video had channels on sale during black Friday. I decided to get MGM thinking I'd put on some musicals that I could half-watch while playing with my phone.

The MGM channel doesn't have any musicals.

Wait, it has West Side Story. Not by MGM. and a remake of Fame.

Here we go

Warner Bros. smashes box office windows, will send entire 2021 slate to #HBOMax and theaters https://t.co/3ZxbLpmAAx pic.twitter.com/7KB9CsvaUt

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) December 3, 2020

man they're really gonna try and destroy two major American art industries just because Netflix is unprofitable and they tried to make a Netflix

(cinemas and comics: Warner have gutted DC, overturned the physical distribution market, and look to be headed to cease print publishing altogether, just because all divisions are now in one pile of revenue)

cool. maybe they can finalize that Roku deal too.

that's some very bad news for theaters no matter how it shakes out

I put theaters in the company of restaurants, tbh. I'm really not sure what they can do or are supposed to do as long as there's a pandemic.

I don't think this is because of the pandemic, the pandemic is the excuse to escalate what they wanted to do anyway.

restaurants arguably have more options - every place that's survived has gone delivery/pick-up only at a minimum

but yeah, the answer would've been bail them out like the airline industry. or you know... pay everyone to stay home like many other civilized nations :(

xp jon true - and I thought the Universal deal was weird/bad enough, Warner's move here is even more markedly aggressive

restaurants arguably have more options - every place that's survived has gone delivery/pick-up only at a minimum

I'm seeing more and more restaurants going dormant, a la movie theaters, even places that had been making a go at it doing delivery/pick-up/pared down menus.

Anyway, I don't really know the economics of it, but if (some) movies can make billions in theaters, I assume they will continue to make some large portion of that in theaters again after theaters reopen. Unless, yeah, studios don't *want* that to happen, but again, I don't really know the economics of this. Disney+ made something like a billion its first quarter and $4 billion its second, but if one movie can make that much alone it probably makes sense for them to keep supporting the theater model. Right?

I don't think whatever theaters survive COVID are going to disappear right away, but the streaming services have clearly wanted to make theater going irrelevant for a long time and this is a huge escalation in that war.

Restaurants have delivery and takeout, but they're paying rent and utilities on spaces that are dedicated 70% to seating people.

Movie theaters deserve to go out of business. Super high ticket prices on top of an increase in commercials before the film starts, and the insanity of the concessions prices. If you are going to sell ads that ticket buyers are forced to sit through, your ticket prices need to be much cheaper. Going to the movie theater is a total waste of money to me. For $30 I could own the movie, buy a record and lunch or many other things besides sit through commercials and waste 2hrs of my life stuck inside a building.

If you get nothing out of the cinema experience, sure. People seem to dig 110db surround sound for superhero movies, though, and even my 55" screen isn't comparable to getting to see Blade Runner or Breathless in a theater (once upon a time when I had an art house theater close enough that did rep screenings).

Eh, it can be expensive, but I still enjoy the ritual of the theater and I don't think I can ever agree that they "deserve" to go out of business.

My guess is if this streaming same day really takes off, they'll become niche things for art flicks, cult classics and retro "theme" pairings.

But seriously, this fucking Roku deal needs to get taken care of, it's insane that this still hasn't happened.

20-seat five row "stadium theaters" you rent out with friends to see your favorite movie on a 15-foot projection screen streamed in 4K from a central server.

Sure, I have heard of people who actually like going to the movies. I’d rather spend my money on a record I can own forever but people are different.

HBO presumably thinks they can big dick Roku by having Roku users riot when they can't watch Wonder Woman 84 on Christmas. Doubtful IMO. The lesson of streaming seems to be that people will find whatever to watch even if it's not what they wanted.

If they don't riot over WW84, they're not going to raise much of a stink over anything in that 2021 lineup.

Seriously, tbh. If Ryan Gosling couldn't get people to Blade Runner 2049, Timothee Chalamet ain't getting people to Dune.

brotherlovesdub, you do know that there are theatres where tickets don't cost a fortune and don't play an hour's worth of commercials beforehand, right? and that you don't have to buy concessions (I personally rarely, if ever, buy concessions but also I don't care for popcorn I know I know)

anyway this news bums me out immensely as someone who deeply enjoys going to the movies and went at least once or twice a month for the past few years

But seriously, this fucking Roku deal needs to get taken care of, it's insane that this still hasn't happened.

This, several times over. Christ, even that Peacock thing got worked out after a couple of months.

warner's big neverending list of comic movies and sequels and reboots is going directly to streaming. the last part of that sentence is the part that's supposed to be bad news for cinema

— Patrick Cosmos (@veryimportant) December 3, 2020

I don't get that take. Of course I wish there was more original ideas getting made and distributed through the big chain theaters, without a doubt. But it feels so dumb and disingenuous to pretend that the MCU and endless reboots are killing movie theaters and not pretty much 90% of their business for the past five years.

Again, not to dismiss the real, very unfortunate side effect of said MCU films squeezing out everything else, but that's not what is killing theaters.

That’s why he uses the singular cinema instead of cinemas, probably?

Oh haha, I guess I misread that. Ah, never mind me then.

I guess art house theaters only superhero movies now?

I assume this is going to have a trickle-down effect to arthouses, which is why I'm sad - I couldn't care less about WW84

what's killing theatres is wages remaining stagnant for forty years while ticket prices rose from $3 to $18. this is the result of actions by major movie studios, commercial rentors, and inflation, not the fault of independent operators running arthouse and repertory cinemas.

This has the potential to be a very good thing. HBO's marketing is pretty highly tuned and often excellent, so if they decide to push non-superhero/non-tentpole movies to members who have previously shown an interest in that type of material, it'll likely have the effect of increasing the audience for that type of stuff and thereby causing more of that type of stuff to be made.

(N.B. I hate going to movie theaters.)