2020 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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If KD is at near 100% seems like they have to be a factor

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

Into it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

Presuming there is an nba in 2021

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

If KD is at near 100% seems like they have to be a factor

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 30, 2020 11:35 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

never happens 1st year back from a major achilles injury tho, usually never happens at all, kds ceiling is prob 80% of what he was before and we wont see that til year 2

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

1st time coach toooo...

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

idk i dont think its out of the question that they click catch fire and get in the zone i just think its not likely

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

new roster too
bad personalities
have to play on a team called the nets which is not an inspiring name

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

its too bad the name kings is already taken that would be good for them (kings county) (same thing as brooklyn)

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

then they cld use basquiats lil crown on their terrible alternate uniforms

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

new roster too
bad personalities
have to play on a team called the nets which is not an inspiring name

― lag∞n, Friday, October 30, 2020 8:49 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

has some 2020 clipppers vibes. adding two all stars (one being a top five player in both scenarios) to a pretty cohesive scrappy team that has already made the playoffs without them. there's already some weird competition stuff that happens before anyone even meets and these guys are arguably weirder and full of more headgames than kawhi/pg.

Spottie, Friday, 30 October 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

i guess they were both on the team last year tho, lol. but... were they really... ON the team? no one can say.

Spottie, Friday, 30 October 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

having a competitive-on-any-night team that could go past the first round in the finals would be good enough for ny quite frankly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

if you want to win a title, you got to get the entire 04-09 phoenix suns on your coaching roster

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Friday, 30 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

haa

Sam Hinkie “stoked” Daryl Morey now runs 76ers; not fan of trading Embiid, Simmons https://t.co/L7xn5e3IoU

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 31, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 31 October 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

Dirk Nowitzki in Game 1 of the 2011 Western Conference Finals;

48 PTS - 12/15 FGM - 24/24 FTM

One of the most underrated playoff performances in recent memory. 🔥🔥pic.twitter.com/ELrJksSGyn

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) November 2, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

Lagoon, you are a saint among men for jolting me out of obsessively tracking politics threads with something as beautiful and soothing as Dirk in his element hitting fadeaway after fadeaway. A thing of beauty.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

Shooting foul by K. Perkins (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by S. Ibaka (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by S. Ibaka (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by S. Ibaka (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by T. Sefolosha (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by T. Sefolosha (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by J. Harden (drawn by D. Nowitzki)
Shooting foul by S. Ibaka (drawn by D. Nowitzki)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

tough night for serge

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

crazy they were fouling him so much and then he also hit all the shots where he wasnt fouled

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

what is the meaning of “underrated” in that tweet

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

have to ask hoop central

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

yeah it's an awesome statline and should be celebrated but i'm not sure how much rating we need to do of a game 1 of a conference finals that went 5

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

I guess it’s long enough ago now that people forget what the 2011 playoff run from dirk was like

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

Underrated ok those type of content accounts just means “we haven’t talked about this person in a while” to me.

Spottie, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

*on

Spottie, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

Some similarities to Jokics shot

Spottie, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

The play-in tournament proposal has coalesced around the structure ESPN first reported was gaining traction in early 2018: a four-team tournament among the Nos. 7, 8, 9 and 10 seeds for the final two playoff spots in each conference. https://t.co/TDQIuQONvF

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 3, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

i think the players will fold on the december start issue, just like they did on the bubble. if anything money talks more to the players than it does to the owners

micah, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

i don’t see a way around it, guessing they are negotiating escrow and some other minor things.

amazing how much of the reporting is focused on the play in tournament. is it really that important in the grand scheme of things?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

i think the big question is how play in games will be shown in bballref, like are they playoff games or reg season?

micah, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

The New Orleans Pelicans are openly discussing star Jrue Holiday in trade talks and several contending teams are pursuing, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 4, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

type of player who could put a team over the top

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

denver, milwaukee, philly all gotta at least kick the tires

cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

bucks make a ton of sense not sure they can put a great package together tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

wld have to be something like donte bledsoe and likely lame picks that would turn valuable if giannis leaves

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

i'm surprised there isn't more discussion about kyle lowry trades... 1 year/30 million and i'd rather have him than jrue. i know the raptors want to contend again but i also think they could be persuaded w/ an offer that is commensurate to what it will take for jrue

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

id rather have jrue but yeah teams shd be looking at kyle

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

coincidentally, he's a great fit on a team that has giannis

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

seems like the raps would want to restructure a longer deal with kyle but idk

Spottie, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

i think raps have shown a willingness to be cutthroat with sentimental favs, but if they lose fvv they'll REALLY need kyle this year if they want to compete

cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

they want to keep anyone who can help them two seasons from now. they're not trading guys for picks or something.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

Jrue is 4 years younger, better, and cheaper than Lowry, who won't be available anyway. Raptors and Masai have been waiting for years to try and lure Giannis; trading and losing all of the veteran players that made them the competitive surprise of the league this year would ruin their pitch to him in free agency. If the reigning MVP leaves the Bucks it won't be to go play with the stuff Jrue/Lowry would fetch in a trade like 19 year olds from this and next years draft.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

the idea of giannis going to toronto is strictly based on the premise of masai recruiting him personally & pitching him on some international vision for his basketball narrative. it has nothing to do w/ the roster of that team. a 35 year old kyle lowry is meaningless to that discussion.

when they tacked on that extra 1/30 to his contract the consensus was that it was to make him more tradable, maybe that was never true or last
season shifted their plans but i don't see why the raptors wouldn't at least entertain similar offers to what are being made for jrue. lowry is very valuable on that contract specifically as it pertains to the summer of 2021 & i'm sure masai knows this. the pelicans minutes share from last year is primarily taken up by young players to begin w/ and that's w/ zion barely playing and small roles for guys like jaxson hayes, frank jackson, alexander-walker etc who need more minutes. the idea that jrue is going to be traded for 19 year olds doesn't make sense. the pelicans want prime-aged players to match w/ their pre-prime core, this is easily telegraphed by their hiring of van gundy and immediate leaking to the press that they aren't trading jj redick.

btw lowry outrated jrue by any advanced metric you can find be it 538 raptor, win shares, win shares per 48, box plus minus, VORP, RPM and it's not particularly close in any one of those stats

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

i'm not sure, i think toronto having a strong roster would have something to do with giannis making a decision to go there. i always figured the 1/30 was basically a nice balloon payment that would leave them with cap space in 2021 and the opportunity to resign kyle to something a little cheaper using bird rights. i do agree he's a much better player than jrue.

also i don't really know what the pels are looking for in a trade but if you think they want prime-aged players wouldn't the easiest thing be just keeping him around? he's not blocking anyone at his position or something.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

yeah if youre trying to win now why trade your best player

micah, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

i think that's why most ppl don't expect him to be traded. they obviously want to win this year and he's a good fit on their roster. you don't hire SVG and then trade jrue for teenagers, there wouldn't be coherence in that decision. the middle ground is finding a player or two in the 26-28 year old range who checks both present and future boxes. the most sensible trade idea i've heard is jrue to the nets for something involving lavert and dinwiddie, those guys are in prime age and locked into reasonable multi year deals. it's not going to be a trade where the pelicans take back a bunch of picks or 20 year olds, there just isn't room on that team for more young players. zion, ingram, lonzo, hayes, alexander-walker, hart were all first round picks, frank jackson was the first pick of the second round, and they have another lottery pick to use this year.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

the idea of giannis choosing toronto is far fetched in the first place and if he went there they would clearly re-sign lowry to like a 2/40 deal or something, but they could also potentially trade him for a player or two more on giannis/siakim/OG's timeline and still make more or less the same pitch to giannis, which, to begin w/, isn't going to be "look at our roster!". if jrue has trade value so does lowry, perhaps more, and if masai is who ppl say he is (a guy willing to make any deal) then idk why he wouldn't look into those offers. he has an incredible amount of sentimental value to that franchise which can't be discounted but that would represent a shift in masai's reported mindset when it comes to roster management.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

according to some article i read no one in the league thinks giannis is leaving fwiw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

if they get bounced in the playoffs again he could be the most loyal guy in the world and would still have to think about it.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link


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