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fuck this appalling shit

Asked for clarity on confusion, BBC said pride is fine if it is seen as a “a celebration”, but if the “trans issue" (as it was described) is involved then it passes as a protest and news and current affairs staff should not attend.

— Benjamin Butterworth (@benjaminbutter) October 29, 2020

stet, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-54756575

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link

One of the most disgraceful articles I've ever seen on the site.

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link

jfc

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

just a bbc reporter tagging in some far-right accounts for signal boosting pic.twitter.com/fdowoX6lMo

— allan saint-maximin fan account (@ChrisKPH) November 1, 2020

nate woolls, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

When Covid lockdowns put an end to his work as a wedding DJ, Jeremy Davis was free to launch himself into his other passion - trying to stop migrant boats heading from France to the shores of the UK.

right-wing extremist has a nervous breakdown, someone call Prevent. Would be the correct take, how impartial of them.

calzino, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

I believe i pointed out somewhere else this week it's always the DJs

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link

She’s tagging them because they were all featured in a documentary she made (with Grace Dent?) on the topic. Obvs have not heard it but at least one of those accounts suggested it was fair to their cause, which seems like the bigger issue. It looks like she has made a couple of other docs on the same theme over the last two years for them.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

Listen to those protesting against migrant boats landing in Kent @BBCRadio4 @RHannaford

@SteveLaws19 @PatriotActive66 @LittleBoats2020 tell @gracedent why they think it's time to take a stand:https://t.co/ih2RlYtluO

— Sue Mitchell (@SueM1tchell) October 12, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

xp lol I was just searching for this

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague) wrote this on thread Friend Infected With Right Wing Brain Worms - What to Do? on board I Love Everything on 27-Oct-2020

Lol it always seems to be DJs

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

"The Untold", yeah, right. BBC going hard on getting Corbyn thrown out of the Labour Party on Politics London this morning - even though they surely must know there's no possible legal or otherwise basis for an expulsion.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

process will be stitched up though surely. seems like it would be politically v hard for kieth to walk all the assembled forces back down the mountain

||||||||, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

Have they aligned on what he has been suspended for yet?

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:09 (three years ago) link

Apart from being Jeremy Crumlin.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

i suspect this is mainly about Kieth playing the strongman (incredibly stupidly) on antisemitism, and any left wing people quitting the party in frustration and disgust is just a bonus

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

Depending on what he has been suspended for, if they did kick him out, they might have to also kick out any member / MP supporting him or sharing a platform with him in the future, per the CST pledges that Starmer signed up to - though pledges obviously are flexible where he is concerned.

Rayner didn’t seem particularly clear on Newsnight aiui, idk what the briefing has been ahead of Marr et al today.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

Starmer's done this because he lost his temper and lashed out and also because he's a control freak cop boss

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

i imagine they're looking for the least embarrassing way to walk this back but who knows? it's not like anything matters

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

Grace Dent has eventually parlayed a career from very little.

the pinefox, Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link

that bbc article made me feel sick

plax (ico), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

So I've had a little look and every single person they interviewed in this show is a member of For Britain, the far right political group. Jeremy Davis is organising vigilante groups full of ex squaddies who have been warned for harassing and intimidating migrants https://t.co/j0eh7ixXKk

— Low Key Mash (@terryfuck45) November 1, 2020

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54837926

Donald Trump's speech fact-checked

Does this happen domestically? Seems odd we'd devote so much time and resource to fact checking an outgoing foreign leader with a lengthy history of blatant lying while letting our local lads brief their favourite bbc stenographers on a daily basis.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Friday, 6 November 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

I agree.

The UK PM is a corrupt pathological liar.

They do not treat this person as they do Trump.

They would be afraid to do so, even if they wanted to.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 November 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

it's been doing this since May was PM although, yes, the focus has been on the us for the last few months, obv

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

hilariously though the guy who usually reports on this stuff is called Chris Morris.

koogs, Friday, 6 November 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

That's different, though, from the way that Trump has been reported this week, with journalists in main reports enjoying saying and writing 'The President then repeated his baseless accusation that ...'.

There is something craven about doing this now, but not doing it earlier, and not doing to the equally lying scumbags in our own country.

the pinefox, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

yep, enjoy this freak outbreak of truth, it'll be gone soon

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

> That's different, though, from the way that Trump has been reported this week, with journalists in main reports enjoying saying and writing 'The President then repeated his baseless accusation that ...'.

onimo doesn't mention that, just the fact checking.

also, i've been through the first 12 pages of this and can't see anything like you're referring to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/us2020

i think they are more careful after the Naga episode.

koogs, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

I was shorthanding and not checking my facts tbh but I agree with the pinefox that this week has appeared different. It's like they saw CNN and MSNBC interrupt Trump's election night speech to call shenanigans on his bullshit and thought "we should do some of that, though obviously not with our guys, that would be bad form."

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

CNN showed the whole thing, sadly, although Cooper did call him an 'obese turtle', directly after.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

considering the contorted relationship to facts evident in some US fact-checking (notably the WaPo), I'm not crying that the BBC are not using it

plax (ico), Saturday, 7 November 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

Fact checking as a weapon is a terrible approach for a nominally unbiased public broadcaster and I agree there's no need for it. We don't need a home grown Daniel Dale spending every waking hour going "the lying man lied again!"

However, a bit more of "presented by x as fact without evidence" might have counted as responsible journalism during Brexit/Indyref.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Sunday, 8 November 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

there was some nonsense on R4 last night that still included the bit recorded with recently convicted rapist tory MP as an example of someone with a bolshy Brit attitude. Very classy lads

calzino, Sunday, 8 November 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

There could be a weekly TV programme where a panel of experts respond to events during the week and evaluate evidence etc.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 8 November 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

> PLAY FOR TODAY box sets is being released by the BFI

tuesday's repeat is The Black Stuff

koogs, Saturday, 14 November 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

I love that bit in The Black Stuff when the Social Security narc threatens to make a home visit on the character played by the late Michael Angelis, and he laconically replies "I'll bake a cake then". You'd get sanctioned for such lip now.

calzino, Saturday, 14 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

no one asked for this but the BBC announced it anyway because, much like the Rule Britannia song bullshit, this is meant to generate 1000 hours of people on TV complaining about the left. It’s meant to turn yer da an even darker shade of red. And lo, it’s already working pic.twitter.com/90HBr0Tb6a

— Dr. Strategy (car/cyclist forensics expert) (@inthesedeserts) November 19, 2020

scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

Loads of people asked for it last year!

stet, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

Worth it for this

Fuck off you little herrenvolk shite https://t.co/znPSuhkSo0

— The Pogues (@poguesofficial) November 19, 2020

ailsa, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

oh ffs "Oliver's Army" is trending on Twitter because these gammon wankers have decided if they can't get their fix of homophobic words on the radio they'll search for racism.

(the n word has been censored in radio edits of "Oliver's Army" for years btw)

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

a scary song just got scarier

imago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Can we please just have "Eat The Rich" by Motorhead as Christmas number one plz?

Mark G, Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Worth it for this

Fuck off you little herrenvolk shite https://t.co/znPSuhkSo0
— The Pogues (@poguesofficial) November 19, 2020
― ailsa, Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:47 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's class

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

Small Axe: Lovers Rock is the best thing I've seen on the BBC in years

or something, Sunday, 22 November 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

the reith lectures are frequently bad, but right now I'm in a very bad mood and want to string up Mark Carney on a gallows after hours of slow torture (as painful as his lame lecture feels like)

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

#1 is on markets & morals

i'm guessing he takes a different tack on this than i would

Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

I went through a period of some kind of locked in syndrome where I felt powerless to stop myself from listening and was hating every one of his words, because I'm having a stressful day, but then I found the strength to change channels and feel much better now!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

carney's a comically shit interview. the gushing presenter is like 'what was the high point of your tenure at the bank of england??' and he's like 'to be frank, i really don't think of my time there that way, my time was spent assessing leading indicators, deliberating courses of action, communicating with stakeholders'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/02/bbc-journalists-twitter-study-reporters

Our findings on the Labour party factions confirm claims by Corbyn supporters that the former leader’s critics in the party were given inordinate attention by the BBC. This is underscored by the fact that Corbyn himself – who had by far the largest Twitter following of any MP – was followed by fewer BBC journalists than either his predecessor, Ed Miliband, then deputy leader Tom Watson, or Change UK’s leading light, Chuka Umunna.

nashwan, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

xp

I enjoyed the Margaret MacMillan one, even though like a lot of historians her takes on modern politics are utter dross. But at least she's never such a dull corporate mediocrity as this mother!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

though the idea that quant is more objective or w/e is incredibly specious its a pose that seems to hold a lot of water with people generally so imo that is a pretty good approach from mills et al in that article u posted nashwan

plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link


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