The Dr. Morbius Memorial 2020-2021 MLB Hot Stove Thread

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i am anti-la russa in general but he seems like a particularly bad choice for this set of players

na (NA), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

yeah the only thing i can take from this is that they want someone who will bench anderson et al for flipping bats and/or kneeling

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

@whitesox email announcement appears to have AJ Hinch Signature. Looks like it was corrected on Twitter. @SoxOn35th @SouthSideSox @SoxMach_pnoles pic.twitter.com/m64LcrshZG

— Gabe (@GabeNotDave) October 29, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

White Sox could have been cool.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

In my five decades as a baseball fan, there have been very few players or managers I have actually disliked. Two come from the late-'80s A's teams that used to beat up on the Jays: La Russa and Eckersley. Roberto Alomar helped fix that, a little.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

Huh.

Tony La Russa was in the White Sox dugout as manager when Jack Morris threw his no-hitter for the Tigers on April 7, 1984. Now, La Russa is back.

AJ Hinch was in the Tigers' dugout at Comerica Park as a backup catcher when Detroit avoided a historic 120-loss season by beating Ron Gardenhire’s Twins on the final day of the 2003 season. Is Hinch about to return in a different post?

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/aj-hinch-tigers-manager-search

Andy K, Friday, 30 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

what was wrong with renteria again?? and don cooper for that matter?

love the thread title.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 08:10 (three years ago) link

renteria has now gotten dicked over twice by chicago baseball teams in favor of bigger names

na (NA), Friday, 30 October 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

After firing Rick Renteria as manager after the Sox bowed out of the expanded postseason, Hahn said he wanted to do a deep dive into the pool of available coaches and managers, interview people from forward-thinking organizations and find the right fit for a young, up-and-coming team. When he described the manager he was looking for, it sure sounded like former Houston Astros manager A.J. Hinch, who was fired for his role in the sign-stealing fiasco that rocked baseball, pre-pandemic.

But Hinch was never formally interviewed and instead, they wound up with the boss’ friend. It helps that said friend is a Hall of Famer, but this search put a monkey wrench in the White Sox organization’s image renovation.

sounds like jerry reinsdorf just . . . hired his buddy

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

#Rays Neander said they will not pick up either Mike Zunino or Charlie Morton's options. They will be free agents.

— Juan Toribio (@juanctoribio) October 30, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

Mark it down -- Oct. 30, 2020, one of the most significant days in franchise history. The Wilpon era is over. The Mets have a new owner, Steve Cohen.

— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) October 30, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

Invite user @david_j_roth to thred

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

aj hinch is the new tigers manager

na (NA), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Brodie Van Wagenen, Omar Minaya, Allard Baird, Adam Guttridge and Jared Banner are all leaving the Mets.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) November 6, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Sick

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

Alex Cora new manager of the Red Sox.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

Every big/risky trade Brodie made flopped big time. Even if no one could have predicted Diaz would have such a bad year, and that Stroman would opt out for the entire 2nd year, he probably should have held back a bit. Things will be worse if any of the traded prospects become stars.

(That said, JD Davis was a great pickup and now one of my faves.)

Michael F Gill, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

i appreciate that brodie didn't fuck around with alonso's service time and let him start on opening day last year. and that he got degrom re-signed despite the wilpons' cheapness. but yeah

mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

jeff luhnow has sued the astros for breach of contract

mookieproof, Monday, 9 November 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence in February and charged with DUI a day before the team hired him, according to court records obtained by ESPN.

News with @pinepaula and @MoynihanCharles: https://t.co/C1lHlik4Zl

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

Just mind boggling.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

How many DUIs does he have (or do we know about?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link

Only two I think

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

Here is the full Stroman thread... pic.twitter.com/8nxWzLYRsl

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

ESPN obtained the full arrest report for Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa's DUI charge.

"Do you see my ring?" La Russa said to the arresting officer. "I'm a Hall of Famer baseball person. I'm legit. I'm a Hall of Famer, brother."

News at ESPN: https://t.co/C1lHlik4Zl pic.twitter.com/GnqS5k7V9e

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

nice of him to use the non-gendered "person" rather than "man"

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

looooool

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

Marcus Stroman tweets that he has accepted the Mets' $18.9 million qualifying offer. He'll be back in the rotation in 2021.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) November 11, 2020

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

!

Making history by bringing a lifetime of excellence, Kim Ng steps to the helm as GM. #JuntosMiami pic.twitter.com/UrYESbjTHe

— Miami Marlins (@Marlins) November 13, 2020

Andy K, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

Tight

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

Pretty sure either I or Morbs linked to this 2003 interview somewhere on this board, worth a rescreen imho:

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/2460/prospectus-qa-kim-ng/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

She was mentioned as a candidate for several GM jobs this off-season.

Only took 18 seasons...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Miami #Marlins GM Kim Ng also believed to be the first GM of any North American men’s sports league in history.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 13, 2020

Andy K, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

(tbf there are more than a few female minor league GMs, but the job is very different)

mookieproof, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

How overdue is the hiring of Kim Ng? I blogged about her as my candidate of choice for the Dodgers' GM opening that went to... Ned Colletti, in November 2005. 15 years ago today https://t.co/oDlobxGVEs

— Jay Jaffe (@jay_jaffe) November 13, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

Theo Epstein has resigned as president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs. Jed Hoyer is the new president of baseball operations.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 17, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

whoa

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Ground Chuck back to ATL, 1/15.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

excited to see half the league get non-tendered this evening

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Rosario going on waivers (and clearing them) surprised me. I hadn’t realized how overall mediocre he’d been.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

i can understand why the twins are dumping him -- alex kirilloff can fill that role for a lot less money -- but in a regular 2020 season rosario would have been worth like 2.5 WAR, which should honestly be plenty sufficient for someone to pay him the $9 or $10 million he'd have made in his final year of arbitration. i mean he finished 17th in the AL MVP voting!

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

cubs non-tendered schwarber and almora

love how the teams always say they're keeping the door open to bring people back (for less money) -- can anyone think of examples of that actually happening?

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

Charlie Culberson?

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

i think so! also kyle farmer was non-tendered by the reds last night and has already signed a one-year deal to return, so i guess i am Wrong

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 December 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link

so Chris Young (the pitcher, not the outfielder) is the new, out-of-nowhere GM for Texas.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

gotta be the tallest gm ever

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 4 December 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

i'm sure most people are feeling this way about their favored teams right now, but...STL is a mess. they look like a 4th place team, as it stands, they don't want to spend any money, and there's a lot of pressure to use anything that's left on bringing both yadi and wainwright back (they're both free agents now). it's easy to see a very disappointing spending where that happens and STL gets to do the Angels-Pujols-endless-retirement-celebration-and-losing-tour for a 2021 season, this time in front of selected groups of non-masked idiots

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

i feel like you kinda have to bring them back tbh. Molina might be above replacement level at best, but he's got to be done after 2021 (if they don't want to spend, they're not getting Realmuto anyways), and Waino looked alright last year. i'd expect a home-town team-for-life discount, or am i being naive?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

they do have to bring them back, it's true. that's the problem. I mean, I want that too. sigh. fwiw, yadi has been saying he's seeking a 2-year deal (and has interest from at least 5 different clubs).

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

I know of a young A.L. catcher with great untapped potential you can please take.

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

not at all

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 04:55 (three years ago) link

I don’t know if the players deserve that.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:18 (three years ago) link

group economics

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:44 (three years ago) link

Blue Jays just announced they are no longer going to have a radio team. I still listen all the time in the car or while doing work around the house - and listening to TV broadcasters try to paint a picture of what I can’t see is going to be some serious garbage.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link

Time for some pirate radio announcers to swoop in

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

xp Wait, what? Yeah, I listened a lot on the radio. Yet another reminder that I'm old, because this doesn't even compute to me.

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

yeah, hoping for a cottage industry of amateur feeds, who knows?

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Oh I see, a "simulcast". Bah, radio is a craft not to be taken on by anyone. Thankfully Wilner is gone at least

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

Close your eyes and imagine...

Joe carter rounding the bases after hitting a world series winning home run. One of the biggest hits in baseball history...

As the sound of Buck Martinez's strained "howme rawwwwwnnnnnnnghghghghg...." call trails off, Pat Tabler chimes in with "Joe Carter is a baseball player, Buck."

Our collective souls die a little inside. "Touch 'em all Joe" is so out of reach for our middling TV crew.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

Time for some pirate radio announcers to swoop in

you don't want any of the pirates' announcers

tbf dan shulman is a total pro and has worked in radio, so if anyone can make it work (assuming he's allowed to!), i'd trust him

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 February 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link

Shulman is a saving grace, definitely

francisF, Sunday, 28 February 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link

for sure.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 February 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link

I think it goes more like this:

Close your eyes and imagine...

[Joe carter swings the bat]

Buck: get out of here ball, get out, get out!

[ball clears the fence, crowd erupts, Jays win the series]

Pat: Whoa! How about that!

Hypothetical radio listener: ??????&*&

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:47 (three years ago) link

jbj to brewers, 2 years, 24M

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 March 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

Blue Jays just announced they are no longer going to have a radio team. "

That' some cheap BS in the age of zoom. F'n Ronnie Reagan was doing baseball radio broadcasts by wire (and many others also did so) back in the paleolithic era.

earlnash, Friday, 5 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Lindor extended w/Mets. Just before April fools.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 1 April 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

Boy is it gonna be awesome reliving the Manny Ramirez betrayal all over again.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 10:30 (three years ago) link

only ‘betrayal’ here was by cleveland ownership

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 April 2021 10:38 (three years ago) link

what was the betrayal?! i was not following baseball in the early Manny years.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link

afaict the betrayal is "chose to sign with a different team in free agency"?

which i guess is worse than "was offered nothing by a team that has been crying poor for years, got traded to a different team where he was offered one of the biggest contracts of all time and accepted it instead of going back to the first team in free agency for some reason"

but not by much

, Thursday, 1 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

Manny signed with the fucking Red Sox and won a goddamn World Series and Cleveland didn’t.

Yes of course it’s the owners I’m mad at. And at the MLB for not having a salary cap.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Poor people should not be allowed to own professional sports teams.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

tbf he won two world series with the red sox

and larry dolan is worth $4.6 billion, fourth-most among mlb owners

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link

aren't even small market teams fairly profitable? i think the issue might be too many, let's say, "wealth oriented" groups owning teams!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

ALSO: OPENEING DAY!!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

thank you all for honoring dr. morbius properly by arguing about something that happened in baseball like 100 years ago

na (NA), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link

bosox/orioles postponed :(

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link

"And at the MLB for not having a salary cap."

wait what

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

A couple days late, but Mets opening day. I knew they had a good opening day record, but this is amazing:

The Mets begin the 2021 season with the best Opening Day record ever -- a 39-20 (.661) mark that ought to be the envy of every other club. It’s all the more remarkable considering that the Mets, born in 1962, did not win the first game of any season until 1970. They are 39-12 (.765) since then.

the last unvaccinated motherfucker on earth (PBKR), Monday, 5 April 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link

Back of the napkin calculations but the Cleveland Neo-Naps could give Lindor the same contract as the Mets and they would still be 112 millions under luxury tax threshold.

Their revenue in 2019 was 290 millions.

There is no excuses.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

rich hill to the mets

why are the rays trading away pieces if they're trying to contend by signing nelson cruz

in any case, it's fun that the first two big names to move in this trading deadline are both 41 years old

na (NA), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link

why are the mets trading for rich hill when he's been absolute garbage since the goop got banned

, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

i think the Rays want Patino to replace Hill, so their math is they're better off with the relievers they're getting back and Patino in the rotation.

why are the rays trading away pieces if they're trying to contend

it’s the only way they know how to live

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 July 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

really curious what ends up happening with him -- god-tier defense and occasional flashes of offensive brilliance but he'll be 28 this winter and he's fucking hurt all the time. once in seven seasons has he played 100 games! anyway he has one more year of arb before free agency in 2023

Byron Buxton has rejected a contract extension from the Twins, sources tell me and @DanHayesMLB. Story coming.

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 25, 2021

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

Some team is going to pay a lot of money to get one serviceable season out of the guy.

jesus luzardo has been terrible this year but he still seems like a lot for the a's to give up for two months of starling marte

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

porntipslizardo

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

Oh god, Gallo in pin stripes.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

some large adult outfielders in the bronx

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 July 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

free agents

yasiel puig
ryan braun
zack cozart
jedd gyorko
sean rodriguez
edwin encarnacion
matt wieters
matt kemp
yoenis cespedes
rick porcello
andrew cashner

i was surprised to see a few of these names

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

You’d think if Pujols could find a team that can make room for him, a few of those dudes on the list could too.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

i am assume some of them are holding out for a better deal, and then it just got too far into the season? i remember reading a few articles recently advocating for one team or another to pick up rick porcello as an innings eater. and maybe covid was a concern for some of them, i don't know.

puig appears to be keeping busy in the Mexican League

Golpe a Yasiel Puig, discusión y se vaciaron las bancas entre Pericos de Puebla y El Águila de Veracruz. pic.twitter.com/cBL1kzqv8v

— Liga Mexicana de Beisbol (@LigaMexBeis) July 23, 2021

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link


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