The BBC

here is a news story about three horrific unjustifiable murders

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54729957

here is a section of that story called What's the context?

Nice was the target of one of France's deadliest attacks in recent years, when a 31-year-old Tunisian drove a truck into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on 14 July 2016, killing 86 people.

Days later a priest, Father Jacques Hamel, had his throat cut during morning Mass at a church in Rouen.

Thursday's attack has echoes of another attack earlier this month near a school north-west of Paris. Samuel Paty, who was a teacher in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, was beheaded days after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to some of his pupils.

The murder has heightened tensions in France and the government's attempt to crack down on radical Islam has angered Turkey and other countries.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a boycott of French goods.

The situation worsened after a cartoon on Mr Erdogan appeared in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

as you can see, it details some of the previous brutal murders carried out by people acting in the name of Islam

here is a story about a brutal racist attack carried out on two women in Paris last week

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/21/two-muslim-women-stabbed-under-eiffel-tower-by-white-women-shouting-dirty-arabs-13455196/

sorry for the Metro link, i can't find any coverage on the BBC site. including in the "context" section of today's report

i'm keeping this out of the main "terrorism in Europe" thread because i don't want to rerun some prior disagreements. i don't know what conclusions i can safely draw from these observations, but they worry me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidance/individual-use-of-social-media#2rulesandexpectationsofsocialmediauseforallcolleaguesemployeescontractorsandfreelancers

h) Do not post anything that couldn’t be said on-air or on BBC platforms.

i) Do not sacrifice accuracy for speed. Second and right is always better than first and wrong – an inaccurate post is a problem for you, your colleagues and the BBC.

j) Do not break news on a personal account; if you have a story to break, the BBC platforms are your priority, even if it takes slightly longer.

I wonder who the drafter of those clauses had in mind

great, just in time! wouldn't want to say spread disinformation during an election!

I’d love to see this one in court tbh

Exclusive: BBC staff have been banned from attending LGBT pride events and told they could be suspended if they breach the new rules. David Jordan, the head of editorial policy and standards, took the decision on Wednesday. https://t.co/9ZNm7pJsrV

— Benjamin Butterworth (@benjaminbutter) October 29, 2020

this new system works GREAT

are they also forbidden from publicly disclosing their sexuality?

ban poppies also

The tl thinks this is so the bbc don’t have to take a view on trans rights.

just another day of feeling one's sense of personal safety eroded!

gradually and faintly, like shoreline erosion.

Are we really going to have to move back to our own cunt island

Also been told that staff have been told to 'not follow too many LGBT+ charities' and also follow groups who challenge and are against LGBTQ+ equality in favour of not being biased? This is MESSY

— Jamie Windust (@jamie_windust) October 29, 2020

more like this is farcical and evil

what could be more impartial than using the phrase "virtue signalling"?

Are we really going to have to move back to our own cunt island

― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:48 (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

got cruised by priests (up mount brandon) on most recent visit

so uh conflicted

How old were said priests

young priests. like phd student age.

not accidentally does the sermon twice age priests

fuck this appalling shit

Asked for clarity on confusion, BBC said pride is fine if it is seen as a “a celebration”, but if the “trans issue" (as it was described) is involved then it passes as a protest and news and current affairs staff should not attend.

— Benjamin Butterworth (@benjaminbutter) October 29, 2020

x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-54756575

One of the most disgraceful articles I've ever seen on the site.

jfc

just a bbc reporter tagging in some far-right accounts for signal boosting pic.twitter.com/fdowoX6lMo

— allan saint-maximin fan account (@ChrisKPH) November 1, 2020

When Covid lockdowns put an end to his work as a wedding DJ, Jeremy Davis was free to launch himself into his other passion - trying to stop migrant boats heading from France to the shores of the UK.

right-wing extremist has a nervous breakdown, someone call Prevent. Would be the correct take, how impartial of them.

I believe i pointed out somewhere else this week it's always the DJs

She’s tagging them because they were all featured in a documentary she made (with Grace Dent?) on the topic. Obvs have not heard it but at least one of those accounts suggested it was fair to their cause, which seems like the bigger issue. It looks like she has made a couple of other docs on the same theme over the last two years for them.

Listen to those protesting against migrant boats landing in Kent @BBCRadio4 @RHannaford

@SteveLaws19 @PatriotActive66 @LittleBoats2020 tell @gracedent why they think it's time to take a stand:https://t.co/ih2RlYtluO

— Sue Mitchell (@SueM1tchell) October 12, 2020

xp lol I was just searching for this

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague) wrote this on thread Friend Infected With Right Wing Brain Worms - What to Do? on board I Love Everything on 27-Oct-2020

Lol it always seems to be DJs

"The Untold", yeah, right. BBC going hard on getting Corbyn thrown out of the Labour Party on Politics London this morning - even though they surely must know there's no possible legal or otherwise basis for an expulsion.

process will be stitched up though surely. seems like it would be politically v hard for kieth to walk all the assembled forces back down the mountain

Have they aligned on what he has been suspended for yet?

Apart from being Jeremy Crumlin.

i suspect this is mainly about Kieth playing the strongman (incredibly stupidly) on antisemitism, and any left wing people quitting the party in frustration and disgust is just a bonus

Depending on what he has been suspended for, if they did kick him out, they might have to also kick out any member / MP supporting him or sharing a platform with him in the future, per the CST pledges that Starmer signed up to - though pledges obviously are flexible where he is concerned.

Rayner didn’t seem particularly clear on Newsnight aiui, idk what the briefing has been ahead of Marr et al today.

Starmer's done this because he lost his temper and lashed out and also because he's a control freak cop boss

i imagine they're looking for the least embarrassing way to walk this back but who knows? it's not like anything matters

Grace Dent has eventually parlayed a career from very little.

that bbc article made me feel sick

So I've had a little look and every single person they interviewed in this show is a member of For Britain, the far right political group. Jeremy Davis is organising vigilante groups full of ex squaddies who have been warned for harassing and intimidating migrants https://t.co/j0eh7ixXKk

— Low Key Mash (@terryfuck45) November 1, 2020

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54837926

Donald Trump's speech fact-checked

Does this happen domestically? Seems odd we'd devote so much time and resource to fact checking an outgoing foreign leader with a lengthy history of blatant lying while letting our local lads brief their favourite bbc stenographers on a daily basis.

I agree.

The UK PM is a corrupt pathological liar.

They do not treat this person as they do Trump.

They would be afraid to do so, even if they wanted to.

it's been doing this since May was PM although, yes, the focus has been on the us for the last few months, obv

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

hilariously though the guy who usually reports on this stuff is called Chris Morris.

That's different, though, from the way that Trump has been reported this week, with journalists in main reports enjoying saying and writing 'The President then repeated his baseless accusation that ...'.

There is something craven about doing this now, but not doing it earlier, and not doing to the equally lying scumbags in our own country.

yep, enjoy this freak outbreak of truth, it'll be gone soon

> That's different, though, from the way that Trump has been reported this week, with journalists in main reports enjoying saying and writing 'The President then repeated his baseless accusation that ...'.

onimo doesn't mention that, just the fact checking.

also, i've been through the first 12 pages of this and can't see anything like you're referring to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/us2020

i think they are more careful after the Naga episode.

I was shorthanding and not checking my facts tbh but I agree with the pinefox that this week has appeared different. It's like they saw CNN and MSNBC interrupt Trump's election night speech to call shenanigans on his bullshit and thought "we should do some of that, though obviously not with our guys, that would be bad form."

CNN showed the whole thing, sadly, although Cooper did call him an 'obese turtle', directly after.

considering the contorted relationship to facts evident in some US fact-checking (notably the WaPo), I'm not crying that the BBC are not using it

Fact checking as a weapon is a terrible approach for a nominally unbiased public broadcaster and I agree there's no need for it. We don't need a home grown Daniel Dale spending every waking hour going "the lying man lied again!"

However, a bit more of "presented by x as fact without evidence" might have counted as responsible journalism during Brexit/Indyref.