Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novels of 1916

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A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 October 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link

Thanks for taking me as sincere, James Morrison! It was more a comment on just how many books Wells cranked out and indeed if anyone read - and still reads - them.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 October 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

Once heard a BBC thing on why authors fall out of favour and they gave Wells as an example and put it down to his views on eugenics, which feels half baked. Surely lots of still-in-canon authors shared those?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 October 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link

I've read two of these: Chaturangah and the one apparently we've all read. Both novels about young men coming of age, with an interesting contrast in the treatment of religion/spirituality. The main character of Chaturangah is drawn ever closer to it, whereas the main character of Portrait is running as fast as he can in the opposite direction.

o. nate, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Once heard a BBC thing on why authors fall out of favour and they gave Wells as an example and put it down to his views on eugenics, which feels half baked. Surely lots of still-in-canon authors shared those?


yeah i’d agree, i don’t think the reason HG Wells has “fallen out of favour” is anything to do with that.

i think your phrase “in canon” may be more relevant. like of the novels here, which are in canon? PotAaaYM (more arduous to type than the actual title) is part of the academic lit canon, Buchan and Burroughs and Haggard have a sort of fame, probably extended by awareness of films if not the films themselves as enjoyable adventures, but probably don’t exist strongly in the popular or academic imagination.

I think HG Wells is a very middle class sort of highbrow or intellectual, and a sort of snobbery applies to that. not really the sort of high intellectual you get out of modernism. nor a prototype in his wider writing (ie apart from the significant War of the Worlds) of the comic book/film.

he was highly various, but i wonder whether his interest in writing for an audience of the time leaves him seeming a bit odd now. that audience doesn’t exist any more.

i often think of the (later) writer Peter de Polnay, successful and acclaimed (though not in Wells’ league of fame) he is totally unheard of now, and you won’t even find his books in second hand shops. he fell between the academic intellectual and the truly popular, and is neither fish nor fowl in terms of today’s reading. (i found his books dull beyond comprehension).

Fizzles, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

Wells is still historically important as a writer of science fiction, but by now all his 'prophecies' have either been surpassed by scientific developments or else proved to be fallacious, so they've lost a major part of their initial fascination. The major exception would be The Invisible Man, which was never really science fiction, but an allegory of science, more like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde or Frankenstein than like The War of the Worlds. Late Wells was more pontifical and topical, and far less imaginative.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

I read a fair amount of Wells when I was a kid, and thought he was a good storyteller. Checked in a few years ago, and found him the same (myself too: no levels were revealed by adult eyes). This one was prophetic enough:

The Land Ironclads" is a short story by English writer H.G. Wells, which originally appeared in the December 1903 issue of the Strand Magazine.[1] It features "land ironclads," 100-foot-long (30 m) armoured fighting vehicles that carry riflemen, engineers, and a captain, and are armed with remote-controlled, semi-automatic rifles...

The story contributed to Wells's reputation as a "prophet of the future"[3] when tanks first appeared on the battlefield in 1916. For contemporaries, Wells's rather sketchy battle between countrymen "defenders" (who rely on cavalry and entrenched infantry) and attacking townsmen carried echoes of the Boer War, as well as of his 1898 novel The War of the Worlds, which also featured a struggle between technologically uneven protagonists.[4]
The story opens with an unnamed war correspondent and a young lieutenant surveying the calm of the battlefield and reflecting upon the war between two unidentified armies.

Yeah, liked the points of view; the correspondent is old and getting older as he stands there and watches.

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Middlebrow can be good. Mark S has referred in passing to the Beatles as middlebrow.

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

i have nothing against middlebrow! i just wonder whether it's peculiarly subject to going out of fashion.

I quite like Wells' short stories, and his history of the world was the first major synoptic history i read.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

I should admit that this kind of "prophecy" might have seemed pretty freaking obvious to anybody halfway keeping up with steady gains in this kind of technology x imperial rivalries x the past century or centuries of European history. By 1903, he was contributing this story to a well-established subgenre---good article about it here:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/future_war

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

Daniel, where art thou?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Saw a disturbing adaptation of HG's "The Magic Shop" a few nights ago on The Alfred Hitchcock Hour. Don't know how much of that came across in the original; part of the effect here was perfect casting. The ending seemed like it might have been lifted by the author of a story famous via Twilight Zone adaptation, but that now seems a bit cuet compared to this.

dow, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

Sorry pom! Moved house and we won't have wi-fi until the end of the month :( so tethering my phone's net to keep this up

Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novels of 1917

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

Thanks, Daniel! Just wanted to make sure you were ok – the polls can obviously wait. And congrats on your new home!

pomenitul, Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link


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