Spotify - anyone heard of it?

spotify is fucking up

had some more weird issues lately where I add a track to my library, it doesn't show up in the app, shows up in web player, but can't be played until I un-add and re-add.

Yeah I often find I have to log out and back in again on my Mac for the desktop client to register tracks that I've Liked on another device, even if it was hours ago.

lol at the lede in that Guardian article

Joe Rogan, Spotify’s biggest podcast star, has left the platform....

....

...

...in an awkward position after conducting a lengthy interview with Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist banned by Swedish streaming company for producing “hate content”.

I'm going to take a punt that their response to being put in this awkward position was to do nothing about it.

Exasperated laugh after having selected 'I don't like ROOSEVELT' at least twice in Release Radar the powers that be just won't take no for an answer here.

xp they removed it

source?

joe rogan fans on reddit

but that was yesterday and i see it back up now?

there i was thinking "joe rogan fans on reddit" an unimpeachable source.

it was a cache issue with the episode that did cause it to be missing/unplayable yesterday

you can count on joe rogan fans on reddit to complain first if spotify does pull it

you can count on joe rogan fans on reddit to complain first if spotify does pull it

fixed that for ya

In response to the "Justice at Spotify" campaign for increased royalty rates, and having paid Joe Rogan $100 million to promote Infowars, Spotify have announced the option for artists to be paid in exposure instead, except without actually providing the exposure:

https://www.thefader.com/2020/11/02/spotify-promotional-tool-discovery-weekly-royalty-rate-union-letter

I can’t understand if this is a genuine opportunity for extra cash flow for labels/bands or, Spotify monetizing an existing distribution channel like radio and getting an even lower royalty rate to artists. I’ll assume the latter?

I’ve been through a bunch of these services, is there anything out there that pays artists fairly?

Bandcamp

I used to have their app, glad to hear they’re streaming!

well it depends on what the artists want to be streamable, but yeah

i actually use the bandcamp app. it’s nice. sort of a “here’s the music i care about enough to actually pay for” all in one place.

Top comment on r/indieheads:

extremely telling that they waited for election eve so that they could try to slip this through the cracks. they know how shitty and terrible they are being here and are terrified about how much blowback this rightfully deserves.

I agree this is a despicable thing to do.

https://gizmodo.com/spotify-finds-a-pay-for-play-workaround-1845554656

Guardian reporting on it too

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/nov/03/spotify-artists-promote-music-exchange-cut-royalty-rates-payola-algorithm

"payolgarithm"

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55c6866ae4b05dcc99ee3b4a/t/56352661e4b0270138b3707f/1602669505958/

I mean the problem is that artists already got paid cents with Spotify, and this model makes it so that they get paid to even be invited to the playground. If they're not game, they don't get featured in the top - or not featured at all - of new music releases, spotify playlists, recommendations, radio, etc... so now you have to be paid even shittier amounts if you want in.

It's plain evil and will not only affect artists for the worst but its audience too.

it's always been a shit business model

I feel like it is every tech company’s model: hollow out an existing industry or industries and hoover up all the money while passing along marginal savings. No wonder inequality is at Robber Baron levels.

Ok, nice customer service story:

I’ve subscribed to Spotify Premium pretty much since the beginning. I’ve held off upgrading to Family bc the Hulu deal goes away if you have Family. At any rate, my older daughter uses my account on their iOS – and tells me last week: “I signed up for Duo.” And of course, two days later comes and tells me, “What’s our Hulu password? It isn’t working.”

Anyway I chatted online w customer service and asked if they could undo it and was told they couldn’t bc that the deal was no longer available in their computer system. I said I was a little disappointed bc I was a longtime and happy customer. Before the chat ended, I told the person I understood it was out of their hands but asked if there was poss. a supervisor who could manually do it. They said they’d ask – and an hour later I got an email from a supervisor restoring the deal.

I wasn’t expecting Spotify to even have customer service as a digital company so this was surprising to say the least. Good stuff.

i'm laughing as i type this, but the play button keeps fucking up on my spotify, just does nothing, i keep clicking it

nb. laughing as i type this

Great news! Every penny of value that musicians have earned for Spotify has been paid back to them, so Spotify can drop another another $235 million on a loss-making podcast advert company35 million on a loss-making podcast advert company, in order to onsell their own data-mining services to the creators of podcasts that use that company.

spotify:album:47frms8fSk3Cp9ZCA80tfx
is very much NOT tr/st, but someone called Trust

anybody heard of it?

Why Is The Obscure B-Side “Harness Your Hopes” Pavement’s Top Song On Spotify? It’s Complicated.

https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/

It's becoming really erratic recently. I keep getting multiple duplicates of one podcast turning up in the queue or having the queue and recent searches disappear.
I reinstalled it last night and it was still doing the multiple podcast thing afterwards.

Also ads turning up when I'm being charged for premium.

Oh yeah for some reason it's decided to play back silently for the last few days.
May have something to do with webinars I've been at but other sound on the desktop work.youtube,audacious etc.
& trying to swap etween other sound outlets does nothing.

Ubuntu updated recently not sure if it's anything to do with that.annoying though.

Think it was mentioned upthread but are the ads when you're listening to podcasts as think some have ads embedded in them?

yeah most podcasts have baked-in ads

I keep losing my place in podcasts across devices. If go tablet > phone > tablet it forgets everything I've listened to on the phone in between.

That Stereogum/Pavement article is interesting. There's an upside in that guys like Malkmus presumably make a bit more money than they would otherwise have seen and I like the idea of a deep cut rising to prominence and popularity but something seems a bit off.

Like in the same way your daily mixes all end up sounding like they never change, are the impersonal algorithms driving us towards the platonic ideal of lo fi indie rock at the exclusion of anything that doesn't quite fit the unpublished criteria?

(not sure I'm expressing that very well, sorry)

ads I was referring to seem to be ore localised on US or UK podcasts I'm listening to in Ireland. So can't see how an ad relevant to Ireland would be embedded n a foreign show which is what i seem o keep hearing at least. Also ads creeping in between shows

i was about to comment on the targeted podcast ads. I get ads for Canadian banks when i download, like, Reply All in Pocketcasts. But in Spotify I just noticed that the episode runtimes are a few minutes shorter, and i couldn't find ads in the episode i just fast forwarded through. Interesting.

People on the Gimlet subreddit just seem to be annoyed that the hosts aren't reading the ads anymore.

i've heard of spotify

Have heard hosts reading ads. POd Save crew still seem to pretty regularly at least for their sponsors etc.
I think others do too still. Daily Beans crew too.

I should've said that Spotify owns Gimlet. Have they bought any other "networks" or just some single show deals?

https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/10/spotify-buying-podcast-hosting-and-ad-company-megaphone-for-235m/?

Ah i guess this has something to do with their podcast ad experimenting. Bleh.... sticking to my podcast app.

I get pretty frustrated by Spotify trying to overguess what I'm searching for. Like if I search for the band Come and look in the artist results why isn't that band one of the first results rather than result number 116 (literally)? And after artists named Corey Taylor, Honeycomebear and Friggen Comedy Network?

Searching for classical pieces is a big pain.

https://i.imgur.com/YkJwJSF.jpg

...or 7,400 new paying members in a month

they could save $7k by getting rid of the turntable and bluetoothing Spotify streams to that setup