Larry Charles to direct Borat movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRGXq4t9wY4

that's kind of brilliant, hats off

I thought this was pretty good. I fell asleep near the beginning though and missed a good chunk of the daughter's makeover section; I did wake up in time for the father-daughter dance, which was glorious.

I really loved the QAnon guys telling him his ideas about women made no sense

I really think Maria Bakalova deserves some kind of award for that dance scene.

Couldn't finish this one. It just feels like they are just baiting people throughout, and the fact that there are cameras everywhere seems to make everyone feel like they are in on some joke rather than having authentic reactions to all of SBC and MB's antics.

watched SBC's interview on Colbert, some pretty crazy behind the scenes stories (and video of him having to flee the stage as "Country Steve" once people figure out who he is). though Colbert asks him about the QAnon dudes and what they thought about having a whole filming crew there and he kinda ducks the question, saying something like "oh they knew there was a crew there"...so did he just explain this was some documentary in a foreign country? how did they not know who Borat was?

fertility dance had me rolling on the floor Borat 1 style

xp Eh, its not super hard for me to believe that dumb old white guys in a weird cabin like that might not know who Borat is. If they weren't just straight-up actors, I feel like it must have been a case where they were just being paid something to host him for what they thought was a foreign TV show or something.

Couldn't finish this one. It just feels like they are just baiting people throughout, and the fact that there are cameras everywhere seems to make everyone feel like they are in on some joke rather than having authentic reactions to all of SBC and MB's antics.

― DJI, Monday, October 26, 2020 5:58 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like this review, written by someone who was apparently frozen in amber since 2003 and then defrosted in 2020 to watch borat 2

the resistance-core SNL/Colbert style lib humour was too much for me; having Borat day “grab her by the pussy”... who is this for?

I feel like SBC really miscalculated the demographic game here; the humour is way too gleefully offensive for anyone who watches it to the end to give him credit for the cringey “feminist” ending. Should have just gone for the millenial “my wife”-guy irony crowd who grew up on The Ali G Show, instead of like, our parents who are glued to MSNBC. Also, the Giuliani gotcha is extremely underwhelming.

Should have just gone for the millenial “my wife”-guy irony crowd who grew up on The Ali G Show, instead of like, our parents who are glued to MSNBC.

tbf, Chappelle did this and the internet commentariat hates him now

xp amber is a solid at room temperature though, so it wouldn't make sense to try and defrost it. heating it to a liquid might do the trick, but of course it would need to be done in a carefully controlled environment with vital signs monitored as the borat 2 reviewer emerges from suspended animation. so this is a tricky one

tbf, Chappelle did this and the internet commentariat hates him now

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, October 28, 2020 3:15 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good point. ive loved all his new stuff but Dave def went too far. it’s a hard needle to thread

Chappelle genuinely has several dumb and retrograde opinions though, he's not trolling ironically

I don't know if I will watch this, but since it feels a bit like the critical tide turned against SBC sometime around or after the first movie, it is good to remember that, at his best, he was/is very very funny.

someone upthread mentioned that Nathan Fielder is the king of this kind of comedy and I agree, mainly because he actually lets his marks reveal themselves as strange and often endearing characters rather than just yell "LÖÖK AHT MY ÀHNOOS" at unsuspecting copy clerks

I still think Ali G was one of the funniest series ever, it's strange that SBC thinks its because his characters are so funny and not because of the exasperated reactions from everyone he dealt with

i disagree but i actual LOLd at LÖÖK AHT MY ÀHNOOS so im probably the wrong person

i love nathan obv but i think SBC is the GOAT, even if he’s fallen off lately, judged on full oeuvre

Chappelle genuinely has several dumb and retrograde opinions though, he's not trolling ironically

― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Wednesday, October 28, 2020 3:34 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ya this is otm

When was the Ali G movie? 2002? That was such utter garbage that it was a wise move for him to forget about the UK and turn his attention to the US.

The UK famously unaccepting of wildly sub-par film spinoffs of TV comedies.

yeah I watched it at the age of 17 at a time when I thought Super Troopers was the funniest movie ever made and don't think I laughed a single time, it was stunningly unfunny, not only that but it was a premises that didn't even make any sense, like "hey what if we made a Jackass movie that's a fictionalized account of some epic college party?"

(xp) Which tells you something about SBC's critical standing in the UK even 18 years ago.

forgot abt Ali G movie. abysmal. im like the only person who liked the dictator tho

No, I liked The Dictator

I thought it was funny, just kinda forgettable. was pretty amused by them giving a comedy about global politics a sitcom-level plot

lol: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/kazakhstan-tourism-campaign-borat-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

Couldn't finish this one. It just feels like they are just baiting people throughout, and the fact that there are cameras everywhere seems to make everyone feel like they are in on some joke rather than having authentic reactions to all of SBC and MB's antics.

― DJI, Monday, October 26, 2020 5:58 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like this review, written by someone who was apparently frozen in amber since 2003 and then defrosted in 2020 to watch borat 2

― flopson, Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:07 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

For the first movie, I could at least consider the possibility that the victims had never heard of SBC. In 2020, it feels impossible.

Liked 1st movie alright and the original segments in Ali G Show were awesome. Haven't seen the movie but seen couple clips of recent interviews and they're painful to watch. Just seems like such a hack bit now, he should retire the character. It def doesn't work when the interviewer and crowd are in on it and like they're watching an aging musician: "play 'Very Niiice' for us!!! Omg he said vajeen" etc

xp- i think they must have had some pre-screening procedure to identify people who somehow hasn’t heard of him? it’s hard to imagine some of them are just people playing along

The first part of the movie used a bunch of footage where people recognized the character and chased him down the street and it worked in that context because it felt like Borat was a real person whose initial exploits legit made him infamous in the US.

we might be over estimating how many people in Brandonville, Texas or wtv know/remember Borat is

The Ali G film is weak but I liked the bit when the message between all the young guys gets mixed up as it passes along and that part with his dick falling out in his dream made me laugh as hard as anything ever has. I think I was laughing for a full 15 minutes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHGL-emhxt9/

We tried to watch the new one and found it unwatchable. Bailed at the debutante ball scene. Not enough laughs to make up for the embarrassment. Jokes were hacky and didn’t land.

I found myself asking what we need this for -- a brit making a hamfisted attempt to show us the American heart of darkness through satire or whatever it was. And there's something very have-it-both-ways about the whole thing, getting to indulge in racism and sexism in order to "expose" racism and sexism (and often just bait people into appearing racist or sexist out of their own niceness and embarrassment). A revealing moment for me was the debutante stage-whispering to her father "this guy is so fucking gross." I thought that really disrupted SBC's smug "I'm revealing the horrors of this culture" schtick, where I'm sure he was trying to make some kind of point about the parallels between his cartoonish attempt to deliver his daughter as a gift and American conservatism or something. I don't think the daughters of wealthy southerner conservatives are being sold into sex slavery, I think they're mostly just fine.

Apparently the whole debutante ball thing was a scripted, staged scene with dozens of paid extras playing the attendees. Not that it makes any difference to the inherent unfunnyness of it all.

I found myself asking what we need this for -- a brit making a hamfisted attempt to show us the American heart of darkness through satire or whatever it was.

"a jew who has lived in the USA for fifteen years" is possibly the more apposite descriptor here

Apparently the whole debutante ball thing was a scripted, staged scene with dozens of paid extras playing the attendees. Not that it makes any difference to the inherent unfunnyness of it all.

― everything, Friday, November 20, 2020 11:58 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

fertility dance is the funniest scene in the whole movie

there's something very have-it-both-ways about the whole thing, getting to indulge in racism and sexism in order to "expose" racism and sexist

while i agree that Borat 2 sucks, this is true of everything SBC has ever done, a lot of which is v good

yeah I think you're right about that

while i agree that Borat 2 sucks, this is true of everything SBC has ever done

but the having it both ways thing seems to be a feature of almost all acclaimed adult comedy from around the late 90s until some point last decade

“Your Kanye. He tried to move to Kazakhstan and even tried to change his name to Kazakhstan-ye West. But we said no. He’s too antisemitic even for us.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/dec/05/borat-targets-trump-ye-and-antisemitism-at-kennedy-center-honors

lmao Borat at the Kennedy Center Honors what a vision