Console Game Poll vol. 3 - Vote for the best 5th Generation Console Games (PS1, Saturn, N64, Jaguar, GBC, etc.) here! (Ballot Deadline: November 8th)

I did a bunch of PS1 games at the time, and enjoyed them-- weird things like Siphon Filter and Driver were enjoyable. Going back in present-day to PS1 is less rewarding than N64, though... I still really enjoy, say, Banjo-Kazooie but have no idea where I had the patience for FF7 and Metal Gear Solid when I was young

xp KM I will do my best at whatever it is you are handing off exactly

oof thank, that's a load off. huuuuuge load. i will take a first shot at an outline of an inventory, but you are a saint!

so my experience with this gen was my first three years or so of college and one of my roomies at the time was a guy from Thailand who shipped over something like 5 or 6 hundred bootleg Playstation and Saturn discs so we played A LOT of random games. BUT! I never had an N64 so I'm completely shut out there.

can we do custom rankings, as long as we stay within:
- 1680 or less total ballot points
- 40 or less individual games
- 80 or less maximum weight for any game(s)?

like could i submit a ballot with 10 games only and give them all 80, or 5 80s and 3 50s and 2 10s or whatever? or does this make it harder for tallying?

important note, fgti had three write-ins, not two -- the other is einhander. i am noting this because einhander is awesome and i can't believe we forgot it and i might need to change my ballot now that i have remembered it!

also i will note that i replayed mgs not that long ago (i replayed 1, 2, 3, 4 and PW before 5 came out because i live like that) and it held up imo! is gamecube emulation up to snuff these days? i've wanted to try twin snakes for a while...

can we do custom rankings, as long as we stay within:
- 1680 or less total ballot points
- 40 or less individual games
- 80 or less maximum weight for any game(s)?

like could i submit a ballot with 10 games only and give them all 80, or 5 80s and 3 50s and 2 10s or whatever? or does this make it harder for tallying?

― chihuahuau, Sunday, October 25, 2020 6:39 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd like there to only be one game at 80 because i don't wanna do split first-place votes, but i think i'd be okay with doing "tiers" after that. but if you have less than 40 games you'd have less than 1640 points, if that makes sense? sorry my brain hasnt caught up today (or for the past week lol).

Oh yeah I forgot Einhander was a write-in. My favourite Squaresoft game of that generation! Not quite as good as Treasure at its best but a extremely immersive and rewarding shmup imo

> i'd like there to only be one game at 80 because i don't wanna do split first-place votes, but i think i'd be okay with doing "tiers" after that

cool, i'll make sure to have only one pick for gotg then

(the exception to having one first-place game would be an entirely unranked ballot)

also: i have 6 ballots so far! thanks to the early ballot-senders; knowing what is almost definitely in the top 77 or so means i can start prepping images now, which is a massive help in getting the rollout going without too much delay.

2 weeks left for ballots!*

*i would like to see it but i don't expect to but seriously please try lol

ALSO if we called it right now there would be (imo) a #1 SHOCKAH. not a game i would have guessed would sit #1 at allllll. i doubt it'll last, but, wow imagine!

considering a write-in vote for the Chu Chu Rocket commercial, which at least in my circles was a much-loved video clip in the RealVideo era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga62uiXbEjI

oh wait i keep forgetting Dreamcast is next round!

has anyone ever played or seen a 3DO in real life?

in big box display kiosks, yes

pretty sure i gawked at one at a Circuit City or such, once? but it might have been a CD-i.

just looked up a list of top 3DO games and the screenshots were not exactly inspiring. "Lucienne's Quest" looks like an okay sprite-based JRPG, might see if i can get that to run on my SNES mini.

if i saw this in some random pile of used 3rd party controllers, i would never recognize it as the 3DO controller:

https://i.imgur.com/FctffH3.jpg

lol look at this actual 3rd party 3DO controller!

https://i.imgur.com/slki0ZF.jpg

oh shit, Samurai Shodown was on 3DO

i never got to play samurai showdown, except twice in an arcade (different times).

if i have my facts straight:

- the best version of it was on 3DO
- the game itself cost hundreds of dollars (?), like all 3DO games (?)

i could be wrong on that, but i distinctly remember thinking "i would have to save up for the price of a whole new system, just to buy a new game. i cannot do this."

I had a friend who had a neo geo. that's something.

whoa. like, a standup arcade unit?

no the commercially available console.
ALTHOUGH! When I was real young, I had a family friend who had a side hustle buying and placing arcade games and pinball machines in laundromats and bars so he always had cabinets in his garage. When we went over to their house, like once a week or so, me and their kids would just play that shit into infinity. Joust, Frogger, Pinbot, Super Pac Man, Galaga, Burgertime...

my dad brought home a 3DO around 1999 because someone at work had discarded it (out of pique?)

it had the then-definitive version of star control 2 (the basis for the now-definitive freeware remake), a good version of alone in the dark (i'm not sure i don't prefer this to silent hill), and OFF-WORLD INTERCEPTOR, an on-rails car combat game with a lot of elaborate cutscenes, each one framed and mocked by totally inexplicable mst3k-style silhouettes in what i like to think was a last-minute decision by developers who'd suddenly realized their cutscenes were dumb

it also had gex lol

the best selling 3D0 Game

3DO, sorry

my fave detail in tim rogers' piece about playing mortal kombat with his antisocial buddy was where the antisocial buddy says gex should be voiced by dennis leary instead of dana gould

loool

"these aliens are more wobbly than Gabby Hayes, believe me bubbeleh"

oh whoops, i confused dennis leary with dennis miller
NB: Gex should have been voiced by dennis miller

gilbert gottfried imo

When I do my ballot Gex is getting big numbers, pretty sure the Neo Geo was imaginary

I remember seeing a neogeo for sale as a kid and I think it was 500 quid in early 90s money or something like that

it existed! i played it! it was amazing at the time! minimal ghosting and clean bright colors!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8I-q98jApA

was i right that 3DO games were super expensive? or was that neo geo games?

Neo Geo games were stupid expensive. I think $250 a pop! They were essentially just standup cabinet boards. Mostly they seem to have retained or increased in value.
https://videogamecritic.com/neogeoinfo.htm

i think that was neo geo games! since they were basically like little arcade boards or something. 3do was just on a cd so i can't imagine them justifying charging that much (unless i'm mistaken)

but i definitely remember neo geo carts being like 100 or 200 bux new

xp i agree w/ forks

geez i really just typed everything forks typed just slower and less informatively lol

let's start a podcast!

hey, i think they were both informative. thanks for confirming!

haha another podcast that is just what the world needs right *hides messy binder labelled "podcast plans"*

cool your boots Neo Geo boyz

ok i love y'all but cool your boots you monsters

i never bought any 3DO games beyond the five that came with my hand-me-down (the four i mentioned and myst) so idk. famously of course the console itself was Stupid expensive.

obviously star control 2 was the highlight. in the 1990s, if you had described star control 2 to me, i would have immediately given you all the money i had (eight dollars).

i wish i'd had star control 2 at like age 13 with no other fresh games in my hand - just like a summer to completely sink into understanding it and exploring it. woulda been real satisfying and imagination-filling i think. but by the time i played it i was in my 20s, it was an abandonware type download, i got real into it for a couple weeks or something but never drilled in to get good at it or really get the plot to come together. sigh...

this generation has a weird divide for me in that way, cause the big N64 launch titles i got to know in the mid-90s thru one of those teenaged summers - my brother had an n64 and he was home between college and grad school, and he and my sister and I played a TON of mario kart and star fox multiplayer, just an absolute blast, some of our funnest times together. and on my own i had mario 64 to really tackle cause my brother had already played most of it i think.

whereas the playstation games i really know, i got to know like 3 or 4 or 5 years later - late high school and college. plenty of time for great attachments to form and i logged a LOT of SOTN, Soul Reaver and Tony Hawk time in the dorms. they're awesome and they'll rank high in my ballot. but my relationship to games was just very different already at 18 than it was at say 7 through 15. my fondness for Bust-A-Groove stems from one weekend closer to 16, spent at my out of state nerd buddy's place - playing that, watching Pulp Fiction for the first time, and also experiencing SOTN also, lol. havin a blast.

i'm kinda rambling here. there was still lots of great gaming and social gaming in my college years, and in bursts later on. but there's just nothing quite like being crazy into a console game (or anything) as a kid with free time, and the N64 is the last system i really encountered as an asterisk-free Kid

to be sure, SC2 has a huge amount of empty space in it and most of the actual button-pushing gameplay isn't what you would necessarily call fun. (i definitely played a lot of multiplayer "super melee!" with neighborhood kids and it ruled, or did once we'd agreed to outlaw the Chmrr, but fighting the twitchy deadeye AI for the right to not have to reload a save almost never ruled.) it's just a dialogue-based adventure game with a very slow interface, like a sierra that kills you even more. but the writing and character art is real joyous.

a sustained-exclusive-attention game though definitely. you need to take pages of notes. you need to draw a map of "quasi-space".

star fox 64 on the other hand will never stop being fun; it takes 45 minutes to play and you get to put your initials in at the end. that's what should run you neo geo prices.

fgti recently posted on the thread "favorite space game" about SC2:

The 5th Gen poll reminded me of the game Star Control 2 and I had a huge rush of long-unaccessed memories flood into my brain. It has to be in my top 5 of all time... the music, the melee, the genuinely funny plot, I still feel creepy feelings about the VUX (and the mysterious Androsynth genocide), the Druuge and their slave trade, and the bizarre Mycon.

My first play through was mildly stressful, watching the Pkunk try and reunite with the Yehat once, twice and then finally a third time and I was deprived of my favourite melee ship and had to restart

The second time was enormously stressful... I was a diligent miner and took my time until the Kzer-Za sphere of influence suddenly started waning and winked out and the Kohr-Ah began their cleansing-- again, a restart

I definitely needed a walkthrough and definitely used a "here are where the good planets are" guide... there are few games that have enthralled me as so deeply as this one

― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, October 24, 2020 2:28 PM bookmarkflaglink

for sure means something that this rhapsodic post describes being twice forced to restart many hours in. also that-- at least in the 3DO version-- the "here are where the good planets are" guide was in the back of the manual, as if it would have been indecent for even a 90s video game developer to try and charge you for that information.

i too still think about the androsynth.

👍🏾

Will, that is an ace d/n btw!

sent a wee last minute ballot

haha thank you the timing between the "put total landscaping on the end of things" thread and the "listen to all of the kompakt total releases in order for no particular reason" decision i made last week was serendipitous

with jim's we have 24! so happy we got over 20 (still open to any others til noon btw)

ok that's a wrap then! I am gonna set it up tomorrow and tonight, hoooopefully ready to go thursday (or maybe even tomorrow!)

DieHARD GamePOLL - Console Poll, vol. 3 - 5th Generation RESULTS