David Fincher's serial killer chat 'em up MINDHUNTER

I feel like I heard Holden refer to a killer as an "unsub" once in an episode but maybe I misheard.

Debbie needling/mocking Holden was one of the highlights of S1 (and she was the biggest absence of the otherwise very good S2).

Mindhunter s3 (and onwards) looking increasingly unlikely according to Fincher in this new interview

https://www.vulture.com/2020/10/mindhunter-season-three-not-happening.html

noooooooooooooo

I thought the Debbie/Holden relationship felt pretty real, not sure why she was out of his league exactly. But def agree her challenging him was a dynamic that was missing in s2

Oh man, every time I see a bump I hope it's about Fincher changing his mind re: season 3 now that Mank is in the can.

same

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I've just rewatched S1 and found it just as captivating second time around. As much as I love Anna Torv's character, her involvement does mean the loss of the tightness of the early episodes - which are as perfect as any I can think of in TV. I'd also forgotten just how tough it is to watch Bill come apart (Holden too but he has less to lose) - such that I'm not sure I can face S2.

Still pissed off that Fincher couldn't be arsed finishing the story.

The story's so good I'd be content if somebody else (anybody else) came in and did a half-assed job, just to keep it going.

rereading this thread reminds me i never finished watching adventures with tip and oh

Was this never released on DVD? Having a hard time finding anything...I want to send it to a friend--I'm positive he'd love it, and that's the only way I'll ever get him to watch it (not a streaming-type guy).

Just started my second or third re-watch. I think it's comfort viewing for me...which is weird.

Have to quote this for a second time on this thread: "I like you, Bill. I don't particularly like him, but I like you."

ur right, there doesn’t seem to be any official physical release!! that is bonkers, this show is so deeply brilliant. looks like there was a fancy version of the first season offered to emmy voters back in the day, all dressed up as a pretend fbi dossier, if you wanna spend a ludicrous amount of money on one half of a series that never got properly completed. damn you, complex economic and personnel factors! *throws bird at whirring fan blades*

fincher dropping this is kind of inexcusable

I totally get the 'comfort watch' aspect of this - despite the downward spiral of the Tench storyline. That said, I rewatched S2 E2 recently and jesus the long interview in the car is one of the most extraordinary things I've seen on tape.

As in incredibly acted and staged and incredibly hard to watch.

yes yes yes it’s excruciating but in the best way

Every time I remember the way he just fucked off I get extremely angry all over again at Fincher.

I feel bad for the BTK actor. All those little snippets leading up to what would have become a major storyline.

in a way the non-ending is kind of appropriate for a show about (or that features, at any rate) the quixotic attempt to understand and neatly package people, be they serial killers or your spouse or your child or yourself. there’s no resolution, just an end, and that’s okay, and here’s

(just rewatching SE7EN for the first time in 20-odd years: freeman/pitt very good balance as the team in it)

kind of wild that spacey just played a more murderous version of himself in that one

Watched The Silence of the Lambs last night for the first time in ages. There's a lot of ambient background gunfire at Quantico and idly wondered if the similar thing in Mindhunter was a cheeky homage.

Finished up with S2...By and large, excellent; they do lose the thread with Carr, but I wasn't as bothered by that this time. The Atlanta stuff unfolds very methodically, and it's worth all the time they spend on it. Tench's son, Manson, Elmer Wayne Henley, all good. Maybe the only detour that falls a little flat is Paul Bateson.

The BKT prologues and epilogues are so frustrating. They're all great, but they're so fragmentary it's hard to know what's going on half the time--which, at the same time, is also part of why they're so great. I'd forgotten that BKT worked itself into the main storyline early on, then it's just dropped and relegated again to the prologues. I haven't given up hope that a third BKT season is handed over to someone else two or three years from now. Fincher's participation doesn't seem that important (Carl Franklin directed most of the Atlanta episodes); I guess reassembling the cast is the biggest issue.

Great exchange:

Tench (trying to decipher Holden's silence): What?
Holden: Nothing.
Tench: Good.

cancelled netflix, last day of account is friday so finally made time to watch the second half of season 2 which i had been "saving for the right moment"

Ugh so good, so fucking good

I'm happy we got this much but arrrrgh

also when they dropped in Numan's "M.E." I got chills

Maybe the worst thing about the premature end is you'd always read it was so Fincher could devote his time to the film he was finishing, and then you realize that film was Mank. Instead of a third season of Mindhunter, we got Mank.

let someone else run S3 ffs

also i need a soundtrack (all the weird ambient shit and all the pop tracks) asap

I'm sure they could hand it over to Carl Franklin right, but I think reassembling the cast post-COVID was another problem.

"right now"

We already knew this, but I guess it's officially official now:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/02/david-fincher-mindhunter-is-over

"...gave me the means to do Mank the way I wanted to do it"--somehow, that's just not mitigating my disappointment.

noooo

i knew it but

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THIS SUCKS AND I AM SAD

i liked Mank but i’d have taken Mindhunter if i knew there was a choice between the two

Yeah fuckin loved this show

I've tried to get so many people to watch this, but recommending TV shows now is almost embarrassing. "I know everyone says this, but you won't believe how good this is"--you've lost them about halfway through that sentence. (Not that I don't react the same way.)

So many Netflix shows I’ve liked have just been cut off at the knees. Well ok two shows, at least can watch Mindhunter and convince themselves its complete. GLOW on the other hand…

Meanwhile there were what 7 seasons of that godforsaken sons of anarchy

I know, not Netflix. I’m just annoyed.

If it weren't for that great BKT series of prologues, I'd agree that Mindhunter would have felt complete. That's the thing that nags at me. (Especially that final image--if I'm remembering it right--of the BKT killer setting something ablaze.)

ahem BTK

sorry

actually fuck him
call him whatever you like

I guess the T after the K makes no sense, but with these guys, you never know.

lol

If it weren't for that great BKT series of prologues, I'd agree that Mindhunter would have felt complete. That's the thing that nags at me. (Especially that final image--if I'm remembering it right--of the BKT killer setting something ablaze.)

Yes totally. This sucks!

I've tried to get so many people to watch this, but recommending TV shows now is almost embarrassing. "I know everyone says this, but you won't believe how good this is"--you've lost them about halfway through that sentence. (Not that I don't react the same way.)

Yes, I basically ignore almost all streaming recommendations now aside from occasional oddness like The Rehearsal or Paul T. Goldman. Mindhunter brought it though.

if i recall correctly the final thing we see in Mindhunter isn't BTK burning sketches but rather him uh "tying one on" as it were.

the standout scene for me from S2 btw does involve BTK; where Bill is questioning that young man in the car in the parking garage, and the kid's residual fear from his experience w/surviving BTK is just palpable.