if they’re mixing it i’ll bet the machina reissue comes out. the more songs the better imo
rest of those projects sound like billy’s usual bullshit
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link
hoping that someone accidentally lost the masters for "heavy metal machine"
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 23 October 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NcVNOWjv1E
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
(this album's gonna be so weird, i don't really get where bc's going with any of it)
("wyttch" sounds kinda cool anyway)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
I keep forgetting we still have another full month before this thing comes out. I am really excited for the Machina era stuff, less hopeful about another massive rock opera being any good.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
oh shit, i just realized, "wyttch" is totally bc's attempt at writing a blue öyster cult song. pretty good!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMR8JXnYgw
this is probably the song from the new record that's easiest to ridicule, it's zwan-esque in mood, but i... fucking love it. my favorite song bc's written in ages. the chorus is perfect
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
the whole first half of the record is basically out now, and i'm finding myself... really liking it? ugh lmao being a smashing pumpkins fan in 2020 i clown myself
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
yeah i feel stupid about it but i totally love this legit followup to thefutureembrace
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
lmao i fucking love this record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
chorus of "starrcraft" reminds me of the anniversary
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
holy shit "save your tears" is the best pumpkins song i've heard since machina
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I think Weezer and SP might have similar post peak hit miss ratios
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 27 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
idk i think weezer's white album is actually pretty comparable to their peak material, while sp have never gotten that close to their own higher peak.
― ufo, Friday, 27 November 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
ugh lmao being a smashing pumpkins fan in 2020 i clown myself― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
i feel exactly the same. still have to hear the new one, is it any good? 'shiny and oh so bright' didn't win me over, but i really enjoyed corgan's cotillions, surprisingly.
― Nourry, Friday, 27 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link
its way too long, it needs jimmy drums, but its... pretty good
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 27 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
i thought jimmy was on this one
― ufo, Friday, 27 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link
I like the background vox and harmonies on this one, surprisingly
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 27 November 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
i'm sure he's on it but you would never know.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 27 November 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
jimmy played all the drums on the record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link
the record is def too long but i am so thrilled i don’t actively dislike any of these songs. they’re also all stuck in my head constantly :(
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
songwriting-wise i think it’s even stronger than oceania, and the production lacks depth but it comes super close to the adore sound anyway
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, November 27, 2020 6:48 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
made me wonder if billy’s been listening to a lot of later leonard cohen records
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rvQBrL5A8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ht9_BA15M
these are my two faves
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
oh god i also really love "the hidden sun," the synth hook on that one is out of this world
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
Man, I wish I could share your enthusiasm Brad. There are indeed some big hooks and I was hoping for more out of a return to the Adore/FutureEmbrace sound, but I'm just not enthused after a first listen. The synth work feels really lazy (the really repetitive line in "Wrath" being one example that stood out), the backing vocals feel really out of place and I just cannot fathom bringing Jimmy back for him to imitate a drum machine for an entire album. It's not terrible, but it's not very good either, unfortunately.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
lol listen, i already know that i'm alone here
i think the complaints about jimmy are silly though. as a drummer i think changing the emphasis of your playing to suit the texture of the song is... very difficult and admirable. also the moments where jimmy's regular pumpkins style breaks through really pop
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
I suppose that's fair, I guess I just really miss monster RAWK kit-bashing Jimmy. I guess we get some hints of that on say, "Wyttch", tho.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
"Cyr" is growing on me -- just watched the Tonight Show clip and it isn't...so bad? Speaking of Jimmy, the guy looks like a million bucks these days.
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
He does look great, I'm really happy for him!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
Listened to about half of this last night. I don't usually dip much of a toe into modern Pumpkins stuff, but I felt like I had to give it a try after reading an excerpt from Gerard Way's interview with Corgan in Alternative Press (you have to actually pick up a print copy of AP to read the whole thing, and I'm not certain where to even find it these days).
Anyway, I'm not floored by it, but still think it's pretty good. Really like Billy taking us back to the core, the heart music. I also think the background singers are great - reminds me of Leonard Cohen or something.
I do wish that it had more depth, more interesting little details. Everything seems to be very straightforward and immediately obvious. Also agree with those above who say that this may not have been the best use of a Jimmy Chamberlin. And when I took time to follow along with some of the lyrics it was like, what are you talking about?
I don't know - I'm definitely going to finish listening to it and will probably listen again. Makes excellent background music at least, and that's not a bad thing.
― peace, man, Friday, 4 December 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascLZN2iyZg
i do hope he continues writing songs like this one in particular
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
(purple blood)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prI0dKB51Tw
haha whoa this is kinda rad!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
Well that seemed really good to me, and I haven't vibed with anything Pumpkins since Adore.
― assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 December 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link
https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-smashing-pumpkins-machina-ii-rework-is-finished-and-will-have-at-least-80-songs-says-billy-corgan-2867160
Really ready for this one!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
Every one of those 80 songs is going to be a 20 minute compilation of the riffs from 80 completely different unreleased songs.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
i'm wary of what, if any, newly-recorded old ideas are gonna appear on this, mostly bc unless billy brought flood in, it's not gonna sound good lol
still very psyched
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
not that machina or machina ii sound good either but they sound better than nu-pumpkins
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
yeah in my head his attempts to make all these songs cohere sonically will be....less than optimal
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
i would also like a cd transfer of the og machina ii recordings bc it's been vinyl rips for twenty years now, come on bc. according to this news though i don't think i'm getting that lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
Machina would have made a great instrumental album.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
you know what song rules? “slow dawn”.
― brimstead, Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
yes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
I would actually really like to hear the all SPs albums vocals-free
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
who wants (the) honey(ed vocals of william corgan)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
So apparently “Eye” was Corgan trying to do a Dr. Dre type of beat for Shaquille O Neal to rap on top off in a collab with them.
I don’t know if that was a popular piece of trivia but yeah I can definitely hear the Dre influence and would have loved a SP rap collab in the 90’s.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 February 2022 05:52 (two years ago) link
So a new 33-song rock opera, titled Atum that is a sequel to Mellon Collie? There was a time when I would be excited about this, but uh... not now, particularly the "produced by Billy Corgan" part.
https://pitchfork.com/news/the-smashing-pumpkins-announce-new-album-atum-a-sequel-to-mellon-collie-and-machina/
As of now, only available in a $225 vinyl version, or a $499 autographed version, due out April 2023. Billy certainly knows he has diehards willing to drop cash at a moments notice.
I'll hold out for the streaming.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
Gotta squeeze every last drop out of the fresh fruit
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link