PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

Not seeing the changes yet?

lol what are they doing over there

they're lucky microsoft came up with an even more confusing new product line name than the wii u

it's good for fans of white space tho! changes are rolling out apparently.

Switching to this site in light of wishlists being removed from the official store
https://psdeals.net/

wow they really fucked this one up, eh? although i'm sure with some effort they can make it even worse

there's also this: https://psprices.com/

its so fucking big lol

https://i.imgur.com/SdBb5nw.png

i think it's taller than my tv

honestly the reaction to it is making me wish it was bigger

i feel that way a lot yeah

PS5 hands-on stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZjerVFQfhk

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-playstation-5-backwards-compatibility-tested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQ6NeTjccA

yeah theres a bunch of journo vids up today showing off ps4 back compatibility which looks good, pretty much everything runs perfectly at 60fps on ps5 as you'd hope, its just up to the devs to release patches that unlock the framerate from 30 if they hadn't already done that

sounds like the new system ui sucks ass is only real caveat of ps5 compared to last gen

I think there are some clumsy bits but some of the new features looked good? The ability to do certain in-game things in PS5 games without loading the game and then twiddling through menus seems cool.

huh? explain

you can set default settings for some common stuff like subtitles, difficulty level, etc in the OS and it'll transfer to the game options automatically when you start a new game

Hopefully that means I can tell it I always invert Y, like I could with the Xbox 360.

ban non inverted

Can you play all ps4 games on the V?

PS4 only games
While the majority of PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles, below is a list of PS4 games that are playable on PS4 only. On PlayStation™Store, PS4 games that are not playable on the PS5 console will be marked with ‘Playable on: PS4 only’.

PS4 only games:
DWVR
Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Joe's Diner

Just Deal With It!

Joe’s Diner not available? Fuck this sh1t

huh? explain

― Nhex, Friday, November 6, 2020 4:15 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe I hallucinated it but I swear one of the write-ups mentioned that if a game has a mission select type of thing, or a way to launch into something like a mini game, they can provide it on one of the cards outside of the game itself.

I saw it somewhere else originally (with more content?) but this is what I'm alluding to: https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/313335-playstation-5-may-let-you-leap-directly-into-games

i think this may have been what the giant bomb guys were talking about on the vid i was watching where they were complaining about the new UI (but weren't allowed to show it yet) - every game becomes a sort of 'folder' of multiple different ways to launch the game? so it adds another click to the process and also adds confusion

i guess we'll know for sure in a couple days when people who aren't under embargo have the things

I thought it was just a bunch of preset save slots so you can boot up into a certain point in a game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljAMpxifs4g

yeah this looks totally fine now that i've seen it, basic functionality is closer to the switch UI where you have a row of recent stuff and then an all games page

A couple reviews I skimmed of both this and the Xbox one more or less sum up that they're essentially luxury models of the current consoles. That is, nothing radical (yet), just a bit faster in terms of load time and performance. The PS5 I saw someone say should more or less be treated as a high end PS4, since for the time being there are more PS4 titles that will play better on the PS5 than there are PS5 games, period, which makes sense.

great video, ty

xp these consoles are as much better than ps4 as ps4 was than ps3, the CPU in particular is a tremendous boost since the PS4 CPU already kinda sucked at launch whereas these ones are good at launch. once some actual games come out this will become evident but you can already see it somewhat by comparing the spiderman games

i think there's going to be heavy diminishing returns after this generation because physical TV size sets a limit for how good fidelity needs to be but we're not quite there yet

With VR + 120hz + if 3D is due for a comeback, plenty of room for power use imo

VR sure i guess, framerates above 60 aren't a big deal for casual gaming and competitive gamers are all on PC anyway, 3D please no

We haven't yet seen AAA games in 4k120. I feel like that'll be the next big "wow" factor (and also probably limited to games like GTA VII or something). But even seeing games over 60hz - which nobody is even streaming at in the present - can be impressive

60->120hz is really not a wow factor like 30->60hz is imo. the only time i ever feel the difference is mouselook games, where you're moving the camera quickly and constantly, and mouselook doesn't exist on consoles

i guess if console gamers are willing to finally embrace gyro aim like nintendo folks do then it can matter more but there's still ridiculous pushback to that afaik

GTA VII

lol at skipping VI when V is 7 years deep and on its third generation of console. GTA VII will be a delayed launch title for PS7 in 2033.

true, i was being optimistic lol

GTA VII: 2020

i've seen a few of these PS4 vs PS5 comparison videos now (Miles Morales was the last one) and i'm struggling to see any significant difference between the two. maybe a tiny bit of motion improvement, a small amount of background detail here and there, but it looks like the days of huge leaps from say the NES to the SNES or even PSOne to PS2 are over now.
We've hit a ceiling in terms of graphical output, one which as a kid I used to only dream about: "What if the games looked like reality, how amazing would that be?".
I'm also underwhelmed by the games that are leading the PS5 roll-out: They all seem to be sequels or remakes or just slightly dandied-up versions of existing games, so very little for me to get exicted about. Obvs we're going to see more getting rolled out in the coming year, but for now the PS5 feels less like a brand new console and more like an upgraded PS4.

theres really no PS5 games yet, just PS4 games running on higher settings

the big upgrade this gen is the CPU so other than higher framerates (which, 30 to 60fps is still a notable quality of life boost for action games) you won't see a big difference until they stop making games that can run on the PS4 and then stuff like better AI, better physics simulation, denser open world simulation, etc are all on the table. whether devs can do cool stuff with that i dunno yet

the other big upgrade is the controller haptics but obviously you can't see that in videos

Yeah, was gonna say, you rarely see what a system can do right out of the gate for numerous reasons.

I'm excited about the Demon's Souls remake, but that's about it right now. OK with waiting until it has an actual library.

also obviously if you're watching comparisons on a 1080p display you're not seeing much of the fidelity difference between 1080p and 4k

I was tempted to buy a 4k monitor for the PS4, adding even more to the wasted money pile..

PS5, obv

Yeah, honestly seeing even PS4 Pro running 4K in person was pretty stunning.

Which means I will likely be upgrading my TV soon too. *sigh*

it'll still look better either way since downsampling from 4k eliminates aliasing (this is also why games always look better in youtube windows than full screen, a lot of the seams get supersampled away)

i'm finally getting kicked and dragged into the "multiple thousands of Ks" league, due to my macbook pro display busting a few days ago. thinking of getting a mac mini and then pairing it with a 4K display which i can also use for the PS5 i will inevitably buy soon