Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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Have you heard of Adam Gase?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

lmao

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

SV has a lot to answer for but Quibi was mostly dumb money and was def not operated according to any startup playbook

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 October 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

idk what 'expensify' is but they do realize the Lord of the Flies was a rotting pig's head on a stick, right?

― five memes that i can hardly stand to view (Doctor Casino), Friday, July 15, 2016 12:07 AM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

oddly enough, so is the ceo of expensify

― mh, Friday, July 15, 2016 9:44 AM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/expensify-david-barrett-emails-customers-vote-biden/

anyone else get this email? lol

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 23 October 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

pointless and also probably quite expensive for his business!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 October 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

.@venverloh responded via email to parents that were discussed by his wife’s (@mehridith) comments

“They’re private comments”, he said. To which I say, the comments were posted on Twitter, a public platform. I don’t want my kids being influenced by hate speech at @LLElemDist https://t.co/bd9YU4RTeP pic.twitter.com/ofHTLP5ebH

— Antonio Altamirano (@antonio) November 8, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 9 November 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

I just love the use of the word "platform"

Beyond Meat shares turn sharply higher after spokesperson for the company says “Beyond Meat and McDonalds co-created the plant-based patty which will be available as part of their McPlant platform."https://t.co/RqHoNhOrlt pic.twitter.com/cVkE7m5hAf

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) November 9, 2020

DJI, Monday, 9 November 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

sandwich platforms heavily discussed in the innovations in chain restaurants thread, rip burger business

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Monday, 9 November 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

a burger is literally and figuratively a platform

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 9 November 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

the sharp drop in that stock earlier in the day is the mcdonald's announcment. the jump up is them clarifying that it's a collaboration with beyond meat. would read the levine column about those four hours.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 9 November 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

This article really never gets old imo

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/24/how-the-sandwich-consumed-britain

Whiteside immersed himself in questions of “carriers” (bread), “barriers” (butter, mayonnaise), “inclusions” (things within the bread), “proteins” (tuna, chicken, bacon) until they bordered on the philosophical.


...

In the trade, the small gaps that can occur within the curves of iceberg lettuce leaves – creating air pockets – are sometimes known as “goblin caves”. The unfortunate phenomenon of a filling slumping toward the bottom of a sandwich box, known as a skillet, is “the drop”.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

Tbh kind of love this language

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

all these nouns are beside the point if there are no activations

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

went on hackernews for the first time in ages, was quickly pissed off by the prominence of paul graham's latest essay there. it's so stupid and glib: http://paulgraham.com/ace.html

why are techbros all so pathetically fucking lacking of basic notions of social class and surplus value/labor?

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

One of my wife’s family is a pretty successful Bay Area programmer who has worked for a few tech giants. Totally good guy, btw. But once we were talking about some social policy question and he said something that stuck out in my head: “It depends what you want to optimize for.” I think that aside from the fact that Americans in general aren’t taught to develop class consciousness (in fact they are taught not to), a lot of tech guys just tend to conceive of everything in the same sort of problem solving mode that they use in coding.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 7 December 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

fair enough. i'd be lying if i said i didn't know at least one techbro who is a dedicated volunteer/activist for democratic socialist causes. you're right that US educational culture is the prevalent influence.

engineer's disease is a really shameful part of tech culture, but that's another rant.

i just needed to vent a little because that essay is vile and ignorance of basic facts about how the world works is no excuse for it. fuck paul graham.

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

Programmers are the dumbest fuckin people

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

yea... information/computer sciences are incredible fields of study but their professional culture is godawful on so, so many levels

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

i dread going back to it. maybe i'll get to stay unemployed forever, fingers crossed

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

Suggest working for a university or municipality or something. Less money but more human people

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

yea. maybe i'll work in IT in another industry or go back to teaching :)

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

I will never click on a Paul Graham essay

had enough after the “why wouldn’t you want to start out with a completely homogenous workspace” and “people should speak ‘unaccented’ english if they want to be successful”

mh, Monday, 7 December 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

But once we were talking about some social policy question and he said something that stuck out in my head: “It depends what you want to optimize for.” I think that aside from the fact that Americans in general aren’t taught to develop class consciousness

The thing is, lefty people whose day job is in quantitative fields also talk like this, they just recognize that maintenance of existing class hierarchy is one of the things a system might be optimizing for

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 December 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

I talk like this. Mostly it’s awful but I do think “local minimum” is a useful metaphor for a lot of stuff and I wish more people understood it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/VB6gEqdscd

— Conservatives Getting Owned (@cons_owned) December 6, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

this is the CEO of Salesforce yeah? This happened a year ago at least, yeah?

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

nothing wrong with replaying the hits

mh, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

oh, I thought that maybe either a second Silicon Valley billionaire did the same thing, or the Salesforce CEO donated another $30 million because homelessness required further study

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Give me $30 million, I’ll tell you to build homes and put people in them for free

is right unfortunately (silby), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

For $30 million I will actually have some homes built and put people in them for free and maybe only keep a $100k for myself

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

https://www.forbes.com/sites/angelauyeung/2020/12/04/tony-hsiehs-american-tragedy-the-self-destructive-last-months-of-the-zappos-visionary/?sh=70ed75ec4f22

The Jewel letter stands out less than the bit about him buying friends to hang out with in Utah.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

He was a local kid who made his fortune selling banner ads (remember those?) and during the first dotcom boom he opened an asian-fusion restaurant called Venture Frogs in the AMC1000 bldg on Van Ness that had dishes named after dotcom 1.0 companies. His mom ran the restaurant. As you can imagine, it didn't last very long.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

omg I remember Venture Frogs!!!

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

I think at the time I was working a lot at the Cathedral Hill Hotel nearby (R.I.P. Cath Hill where we could smoke right outside the office because it was 10 feet away from the parking garage)

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

somehow i missed that the zappos guy was in park city. maybe i subliminally knew but filtered it out like i do anything else rich-person-related.

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

Do you remember 20 Tank Brewery, across from Slim's?

In like the 1999-2000 era, they had a DotCom night... present a business card from a dotcom, get a discount.
Teacher? Firefighter? Healthcare worker? Yeah no, sorry, the discount is for dotcom workers only.

Fortunately the place is gone.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

Yes! I hated that place. There was also that weird multilevel bldg on the corner of Folsom & 11th that changed hands many times during that era. I remembered it mostly as a precursor to Chipotle (overpriced fast casual) but it was so many things in such a short period of time.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

The Paradise Lounge? I think.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Across 11th street from there. It was a brick facade that had kind of a multilevel tower with many landings serviced by a rickety spiral stair case made of iron.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

Ok, either I'm remember it wrong or it looks totally different now?

https://goo.gl/maps/5nAm2uys9eSGJZJU8

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the old Brewery Bldg with the alley behind it.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Decent Thai restaurant on that corner now.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Hsieh was in my college class and we were in the same major and I don't remember him because I decided very early on that practically everyone in my major was a diseased cock and actively avoided studying with anyone who wasn't one of my roommates.

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

(Just one of multiple ways in which I proactively shot myself in the foot re: becoming a billionaire, really)

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

lol at this thread becoming douchey San Francisco circa 2000 and college assholes that if we had less self-respect and consorted with we would be rich by now -- I approve!

sarahell, Friday, 11 December 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link

also - DJP, didn't you say years ago that you had hung out with one of my former college roommates? The guy with the same name as the dude who invented Capitalism?

sarahell, Friday, 11 December 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

Yes! I lived with him for a year.

DJP, Friday, 11 December 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link

Instead of the current tech journalism model whereby people who could never land tech jobs and possess no skills whatsoever opine and militate furiously about it, imagine we had the sportscaster model whereby former great technologists comment on developments in real time.

— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) December 22, 2020



I’m hollering

mh, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Instead of the current tech journalism model whereby people who could never land tech jobs and possess no skills whatsoever opine and militate furiously about it, imagine we had the sportscaster model whereby former great technologists comment on developments in real time.

— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) December 22, 2020



I’m hollering

mh, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link


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