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owner's odious politics

To be fair, it's the co-founder's politics, and the co-founder retired from the company back in 2002.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lowes-versus-home-depot-meme/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

I swore I thought there was something more recent about Home Depot donating to something pretty awful, but I could be wrong.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

there was one coffee mug turned around just enough in its place that its handle was protruding out from the back of the rack the *tiniest* bit. Aha! The simple solution. I rotate the mug maybe 10 degrees, reload everything, press start and ... fixed!

Basically, I am a genius. Bosch should pay *me.*

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 19, 2020 8:51 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I had a rental with a bosch dishwasher and for some reason stuff like this happened to me all the time - there would be like one little plastic spatula protruding slightly somewhere on the top rack and I couldn't close the door and couldn't figure out why

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

Bosch leaves no door unopened

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 22 October 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

I still think Bosch should release a line of dishwashers with front panels by Hieronymus Bosch.

Like, you'd put your cereal bowl in there and close it, and bam. Upside-down demons with trumpets in their butts. Melting skulls. Laughing donkeys wearing lederhosen. Awesome.

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 October 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

Jvc, the employee turnover rates at Home Despot and BLowe's are about as high as they come. Lots of seasonal workers, lots of people coming and leaving after a few weeks or months, etc.

The work is hard and sometimes dangerous, and the pay is shit.

I'm not scolding you, just noting that the people you talked to might not have known what the fuck they were talking about. It's baked into their whole employment model

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Oh I get it, I always try to be polite to the workers there because I’ve been in their shoes in retail and I don’t blame them for dumbass corporate decisions. Still it’s kinda maddening when someone is swearing up and down that you have to buy a whole new toilet to replace a ten dollar part.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 October 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

On the other hand, I had to go to Home Depot the other day, and as I was walking around I passed what I assume to be an off-duty employee, an older lady, by all indications packed up and ready to leave for the day, no uniform or smock or store identification, yet she immediately asked me what I was looking for and pointed me to the precise aisle I could find it in.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 October 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just repaired an extraction fan that was installed by an idiot (the builder who did our kitchen) real cowboy stuff of the kind calzino describes elsewhere in this thread. literally just stuck together with bluetac. Bought a couple of clips and the correct size reducer and it all seems properly sturdy now.

plax (ico), Monday, 9 November 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

I am building a bike - my first ever. it is an old (at the time) high end italian steel frame. I'm classing this as repairing a thing - tbf I am having to clean and refurbish a lot of the components as I do this. it's a very satisfying process so far, though granted I've not yet got to the fiddly bit I'm dreading (cabling)

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link

is cabling really hard?

plax (ico), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

Cabling is easier than the cleaning IMO. Spend 20bucks on a cable puller and another 10 on snips and you’ll do well.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

it's not hard by the looks of things - just something I've never done before, and could be potentially fiddly. having the right tools probably key

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link

v dedicated to hub gears for their beautifully reliable simplicity

plax (ico), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

this project all came about because I failed to repair a thing - stuck alu seatpost in a carbon frame. I've tried brute force and immersion in plusgas (two course). I'm going to try hot-cold differential expansion next... before I resort to a slide hammer or cutting the thing out

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Monday, 9 November 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link

I built my bike up from a frame maybe 10 years ago and there is something immensely satisfying about getting on it and thinking 'I know every part of you' & being confident that if something goes wrong, you'll know or be able to figure out what to do. It's probably my single favourite material possession.

Recent dodgy repairs: Nutribullet. After taking it apart I saw that the mush container should activate two switches when it's pressed down and one of them wasn't closing. I zip-tied that one into permanent contact. Pretty sure I'm bypassing a safety feature but no-one's lost a finger yet so I'm saying REPAIR COMPLETE.

woof, Monday, 9 November 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

put me on the repair shop now

woof, Monday, 9 November 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

would be so handy to have men's sheds or simial in every area hosting skillshare workshops showing how to fix everyday objects so people have the knowledge. As much as getting beyond proprietary security devices preventing people doing their own repairs on a lot of things.
Could be good to teach basic prgramming and electric repairs too as well as showing what the danger points are.
Possibly some basic gardening/crp growing and garment repair/upcycling.

Nutrition, basic valuing for furture barter. Howw to tell what is actually necessary in a scenario without money?
Having the gift of teh gab basic trading/salesmanship?

Stevolende, Monday, 9 November 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

learning how to make things ad hoc from existing objects would be handy, what MacGyver does but ona apracticalkk level.
Basic principles of what makes a thing work. relevant snatches of physics and chemistry etc

Also knowing what is essential and what is cosmetic in a process so you know what you actually need. YOu can build up decoration at a later point once you've got what you need.

Stevolende, Monday, 9 November 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

re: bikes, I ordered a bike online this summer and it was a case study in why I don't usually try to repair things on my own. I knew going in that I would probably have to adjust the brakes and derailleurs. I bought a few tools and studied as many youtube videos as I could find about these basic tasks. I managed to adjust the brakes marginally well, but nowhere near perfect. The derailleurs were just a fucking mess. I spent hours trying to set them up and just couldn't make it happen. Because local shops were so backed up with repairs this summer, I took it to a guy in my neighborhood who had been posting online about fixing bikes. He got the brakes in perfect order, and the derailleurs are shifting well but I've still been getting a ton of chain rub. I called up my local shop and their wait time for repairs is pretty much back to normal, so I'm going to run it up there this week for some extra tweaks.

To my credit, I swapped my stem out without any problems and managed to change the tire alright when I got a flat. But all the cable-adjustment stuff might as well have been a major appliance as far as how useless I was at fixing it.

peace, man, Monday, 9 November 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

After sticking to internal hubs for years I now have a regular (externally) geared bike and it doesn't shift smoothly and I'm putting off trying to figure out why. I resent that it doesn't come with a little window and a tension dial.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

I love working on bikes (and guitars) and am a much better bike mechanic and guitar tech than I am cyclist or guitar player - I've built a few of both from frames/bodies/parts. It took me a while to get the shifting stuff figured out but there are only a few settings - the upper and lower limits and the cable tension - but if you don't do it that often it can be frustrating to remember.

If you have the room and money a bike repair stand makes it orders of magnitude easier - mine was like $50 and works just fine. And something to cut cables cleanly (I use a dremel with a cutoff wheel) because regular old wire cutters will wreck them. I swore by all the Park Tools repair videos when I was learning.

joygoat, Monday, 9 November 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

I have a cable cutter from Park Tools somewhere. I've fixed up a few bikes that ppl gave me bc they didn't work or were in pieces, but it's been a while. In fact, I ended up needing specific tools that aren't made anymore bc the bikes were so old! I'd forgotten about that! Bike shops have everything. (RIP cottered cranks.)

I'm very into the idea of visible clothing repairs but have done nothing about it. I think ilxor elmo argonaut was learning about it iirc?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

I follow someone on twitter who is a Navy vet & an anarchist farmer, I guess you might say? They've been watching the show "Doomsday Preppers" and picking out all the things ppl do wrong and I've been enjoying it so much. Something they specifically pointed out was that no one thinks they're going to need fiber arts after the apocalypse, so where do they plan to get clothes from?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

so many annoying proprietary standards in bike maintenance (don't get me started on BBs) - really need a tool library nearby

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

Soooo true. Btw I wanted to say that

tbf I am having to clean and refurbish a lot of the components as I do this. it's a very satisfying process so far

...is super-relatable! Repairing things has done a lot for my mental health at certain times. It's good to be useful when you feel like a lump.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

more bike repairing chat. building up my other bike has given me the confidence (and tools) to tackle some jobs I'd previously have handed off to the bike shop, so... I've serviced the rear hub on my good bike. one of the benefits of doing things yourself: you can discover when others (i.e. professionals) have previously bodged it. my rear hub doesn't have the little interior weather seal - which will probably have shortened the service life of my bearings which is annoying (altho they looked OK when I took them out). can only think the bike shop forgot to put it back in when they last serviced. looks like I can get replacement parts easily enough. very satisfying (if a little messy)

||||||||, Monday, 16 November 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

Yesterday I tackled the biennial breakdown of the internals of my ageing Gaggia espresso machine to scrape out corrosion and weird mineral grit. Don't think I will use the kettle as a handy jug to fill it any more. I will admit that I thought briefly about throwing it away and buying another, but no. At 18 it's my fourth oldest appliance, after the toaster (53, older than me), the dryer (42) and the fridge (19). I've repaired them all.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

xp afterwards you can go for a lovely cycle in the rain to rinse it down

plax (ico), Monday, 16 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

MatthewK that's an impressive lifespan on that toaster! (And the rest, frankly) What make is it??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

It's a Sunbeam AT40 - I have repaired the internals a couple of times, but my parents got it as an engagement gift in 1967. Wait I think they got *married* in 1967, maybe it's 54. It's all electromechanical, just a triggered drop mechanism (which drives other people crazy) and some kind of thermal-expansion release. I don't think it's got so much as a resistor in it, aside from the heating elements. Makes better toast than anything I've otherwise used.
https://i.imgur.com/YTDpSW9.jpg
I have two backups, one working, one for parts ...

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 16 November 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

MatthewK, you possess a marvel of engineering.

Advanced Doomscroller (Sanpaku), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

heh heh
although mine will only trigger if the other slot is empty

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

oh my god, that is insane! I have pulled it apart several times but could never understand the mechanism.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

fixed the link between the toilet handle and the plastic flusing thing earlier this year - it had rusted through after >20 years. replaced it with a 4" bit of coathanger but that has itself rusted through and broke again yesterday.

i've cut another bit off the same coathanger and replaced it, but i wonder if something like a zip-tie would be better. my worry is that the bottom of the link seems to be the only thing stopping the plunger thing disappearing completely into the flush mechanism to be lost forever.

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2021 11:00 (three years ago) link

you could try coating the coathanger in something that makes it rust resistant like plastikote if you have it?

plax (ico), Friday, 15 January 2021 11:11 (three years ago) link

yeah, wondering if if have any other plastic coated wire that'd work, like that usb cable that broke last week even. i'm not sure whether the link needs to be stiff or whether i can get away with something floppier, as long as the tensile strength is enough so it doesn't break when pulled.

and i can fix the plunger worry by adding something higher up the shaft - won't be in the way but will stop it from retracting completely.

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link

i mean, zip tie sounds reasonable im just spitballing!

plax (ico), Friday, 15 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

alternative solutions always welcome

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2021 12:02 (three years ago) link

You mean just the mechanism that pulls up the flapper? Isn't that often a lightweight chain?

It's not much of a repair, but just finding the name of the plastic thing along the side of a glass shower door was a challenge. It's an acrylic door stop, or jamb, or strike jamb! Decided to just glue it fixed first anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link

there's a us/uk different with toilets and that goes for the internals as well.

https://www.tradewindsimports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/300px-Toilet-cistern-01.png

the siphon there being the biggest difference. which i think means the pressure needed to pull is greater here. the old link was quite thick guage, probably 3x the coathanger wire (and perhaps galvanised to help against rust)

actually, here's a good pic, that bent wire there

https://www.ritefixdiy.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/Plumbing/Flush%20Syphon-500x500.jpg

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link

A zip tie seems like it would work as a replacement - just needs to withstand an upward pull? And they have some rigidity, especially the longer/wider ones.

Jaq, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

Is there a reason you can't just buy the actual replacement part? Hereabouts, a kit to replace all the inside bits is less than twenty dollars. Chains and flappers and things are significantly less.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:09 (three years ago) link

Where's the fun in that, ymp?

Jaq, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

ianap but maybe it needs to be stiff so you could e.g. stop it flushing by pushing the handle.

ledge, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

pushing pulling the handle.

ledge, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

there's a return spring in the siphon so theoretically it'll go back down itself. mine doesn't seem to want to, the wire's puling it slightly so it's no longer straight up and down.

eventually found the words to use to search for them and found them online, £2.50 for 2. just need to choose the right size. one size does not fit all.

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

yeah every time I've jury-rigged something in a toilet, I've regretted it. For a while I had a bread-bag twisty-tie as a temp repair; it rusted immediately.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

I was today years old when I learned

there's a us/uk different with toilets and that goes for the internals as well.

Our ancient dryer stopped heating last week and I almost bought a new one before deciding to attempt repairs. I cleaned out the lint trap and exhaust duct, replaced the heating element, and have a working dryer again.

Brad C., Friday, 15 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

replaced the broken pipe connector for the faucet on my balcony so now we have water for the plants

plax (ico), Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link


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