Defend Phil Collins

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Do we think Phil would agree to them staying...one more night?

I've been sitting here so long
Wasting time, just staring at the phone
And I was wondering should I call you
Then I thought maybe you're not alone

Siegbran, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

guess they're claiming squonkers' rights

glengarry gary beers (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

i heard he knocked on the door and got no reply at all

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

she has a built in ability to take everything she sees

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

Trespass
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Pre-Phil tho, but we'll let that slide.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

more fool me

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

It's like a great house robbery

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

Blood on the Rooftops

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

It's no fun beating an illegal home invasion

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

hopefully he can Get 'Em Out by Friday

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

Will they be gone by Christmas time at all?

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

No eviction notice required

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

This must be love

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Inside out
Ooh you got me inside out

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

how many times must he say he's sorry

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

Trust don't come easy

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

He's really been preparing for this moment his whole career

I rang your house but got no answer
Jumped in my car, i went round there
I still don't believe that
He was just leaving

enochroot, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

ex-wife kinda losing the press war here

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Lol how bad at PR do you need to be to make Phil Collins seem like a good husband?

fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

I don't think "stealing a house and staffing it with armed guards to prevent its recapture" is most accurately described as "a PR problem"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

Follow you (back to my house) Follow me (to the police station)

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Get 'Er Out By Friday

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

Trump issues executive order giving his house to his ex-spouse

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

I think a pretty solid defense of phil is that we have collectively spent 18 hours riffing on this, drawing on a pretty deep storehouse of memorable lyrics and song titles from 30 years or so, without much effort.

I was a plus-one to a Phil show a long time ago (at the Tacoma Dome), and literally every song in the entire concert was a hit, culminating in collecting canned food and "Another Day in Paradise."

... (Eazy), Monday, 26 October 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

Ha! I swear I went to that Tacoma Dome show with my mom. It was probably like 1992, and I was 11 or 12. I remember bringing canned food. I also remember he mocked audience members who wouldn't participate and said 'I'm just too fucking cool for this'. Also we brought canned food, and the music was so loud it was distorting in my ear.

Publicradio (3×5), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link

There is a group of artists who could play nothing but hits for hours, and even if you aren't a fan you would at least recognize every song.

Bruce, Billy, Phil, Who, Stones....

Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

Some of these acts, it's really nuts. I don't think Phil could do it, tbh, but I've seen back-to-back Bruce shows where each one seemed to be a solid 3+ hours of hits, yet differed by maybe 65%!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

what's pretty nuts is that Phil was already lowering the keys of many of his hits like, 20+ years ago. I remember buying a pay per view show in the late 90s and he was singing most everything in lower keys.

wonder if he sounds like Lou RAwls now

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

There is a group of artists who could play nothing but hits for hours, and even if you aren't a fan you would at least recognize every song.

Bruce, Billy, Phil, Who, Stones....

I have to admit I was struggling with the Billy part of this. My brain went: Billy? Billy who? Billy Ocean? Surely not. Billy Idol? Even less so. Billy fucking Squier? You must be kidding me, you crazy American. Billy... Billy... Billie Eilish? Yeah, right. It’s only then that the fallboard dropped.

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

Billy Withers

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

Wild Billy Childish obvs

Neil S, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

Joel, c'mon

Sunset Claus (Uncle Juice), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

My first thought was Billy Ocean too.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

Billy Corgan; the core, the chart music

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

Ha! I swear I went to that Tacoma Dome show with my mom. It was probably like 1992, and I was 11 or 12.

This was the show! I was 20 and went with a British co-worker who loved the hits but scowled at me during the long freeform drums/guitar space jam that ended into “In The Air Tonight.” “What is this, art or something?”

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

Billy Joel, obvious one!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

Mellencamp was another one who had a show of pretty much all recognizable hits.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

When I saw Bob Seger in 2007, I had been expecting a solid greatest-hits show, but he actually played six new songs! I wrote about it for the Voice.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

Loggins could probably do this too

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

I saw the Stones at some point in ... I don't remember what year it was. Bigger Bang tour? Anyway, right beforehand the publicist swung by and gave the writers (or at least a writer) a copy of the setlist, which identified all the songs they were playing that night that they had not played the previous night, and it really struck me what a science it must be to devise a setlist when you literally have more hits than you can play.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

I remember reading an interview with Brooks & Dunn where they were a little frustrated because their audience would not put up with them playing anything but their #1 hits

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

I saw the Stones at some point in ... I don't remember what year it was. Bigger Bang tour? Anyway, right beforehand the publicist swung by and gave the writers (or at least a writer) a copy of the setlist, which identified all the songs they were playing that night that they had not played the previous night, and it really struck me what a science it must be to devise a setlist when you literally have more hits than you can play.

Metallica really does have this down to a science — I remember reading Lars Ulrich talking about how they'd get Spotify and YouTube data and find out which songs got the most streams in a given market, and make sure they went into the set that night.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

At the same time, I recall Lars claiming one justification for the shorter songs on the Black Album (and beyond) was that all the increasingly long songs were really limiting what they could do in their setlists.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

Once the Who settle on a setlist at the start of a tour, it rarely changes. It's all up to Daltrey: he picks the songs and determines the sequence for what's easiest on his voice. He also knows that a significant portion of the audience will feel cheated if they don't hear the biggest hits (aka, half of Who's Next). They'll slot in rarities from time to time -- in 2015/16 I saw them do "Pictures of Lily," "Slip Kid," and "A Quick One, While He's Away" -- and if there's a new record out, a few songs from that. John Entwistle used to say that if the running order works, why mess with it?

When the Grateful Dead opened two Who shows in 1976, Townshend expressed his amazement to Jerry Garcia that the Dead only repeated one song from one night to the next.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

tbf once you take being tight or consistent off the table, it really doesn't matter what you play night to night. That's sort of the miracle of bands like Springsteen or Pearl jam, that they can shake it up so much from night to night and never get sloppy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

At the same time, I recall Lars claiming one justification for the shorter songs on the Black Album (and beyond) was that all the increasingly long songs were really limiting what they could do in their setlists.

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simple they could have cut all of the damn noodling. seriously, Metallica shows would be 3 hours, and 20 minutse of that would be James making dumb jokes or whining about the crowd not making enough noise, 15 minutes of that would be James getting fans to sing the chorus to "Seek and Destroy", 5 minutes would be Jason playing old Flotsam and Jetsam basslines and calling that a bass solo, 10 minutes would be Kirk soloing so drenched in wah that it rendered his solos incomprehensible. that's almost an hour there, 7 or 8 more songs!

I've noticed when I see Metallica the last few years, their shows are much tighter with less dicking around, and they seem to play more in less time (usually 2.5 hours)

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

And now — according to a lawsuit filed by Collins — Cevey and her new husband, Tom Bates, are allegedly living in his $33 million dollar Miami beachfront mansion.

when they do it he's never there

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

She knows (she knows)
There'll always be a special place in his house for her

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link


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