xp i think there's still a layer of myth here, or at least a fascination with urban legend that keeps it just outside of "absolute reality"
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
fwiw I almost gave up on Stranger in the Alps after four or five listens, but two songs from it came up on shuffle relatively close together and they both wowed me and that was the key to unlocking it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
for me, the song that sold me was "Motion Sickness."
when i learned it was about ryan adams, i was disappointed at first. it felt gossipy or something. but then i thought more about it and realized it was still a great song and an honest song. i don't think she was trying to trash him in it -- even though that would have been her prerogative, i don't think that would have made for a good song. but it's really about her experience, being disillusioned with some charismatic jerk she was infatuated with and still despite herself misses. (i've been there).
this, though, probably stung ryan adams, especially in a song that is so much better than anything he's ever written:
And why do you sing with an English accentI guess it's too late to change it now
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
I very rarely -- "Sara" an exception, maybe -- felt Dylan was an autobiographical or confessional a songwriter.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
blood on the tracks is about his divorce. but he tells the story in a refracted way.
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
it's my favorite album.
and the distance is part of what makes it work. or that tension -- you know, "is this him talking again or is he singing from the perspective of some rambler in the old west"?
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link
Mine too, but at the risk of pedantry, I'd say it's "an album in which a guy and his wife divorce." Dylan isn't even much of a storyteller: he shares jokes, plagiarizes Americana, quotes Scripture, steals his ideas about women from Westerns.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
sure, he takes you on a journey, but "finds in it, after all, a place for the genuine."
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
'if you see her say hello' and 'shelter from the storm' - the heart of the album - don't feel like pastiche.
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
Agree.
Back to Bridgers!
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
people use "refracted" to describe clever, nonlinear narratives in art as if the common experience of refraction is to look at your hand through a swarovski crystal dolphin in sunlight. oooooo. but our most common experiences with applied refraction are through corrective or camera lenses, which aim to give just an accurate image of reality.
― The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
good point
― treeship., Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
write-in vote for "fractured"
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 07:49 (three years ago) link
your favourite Punisher songs, now with strings! https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/album/copycat-killer
this version of Kyoto is gorgeous.
― Roz, Thursday, 12 November 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link
it doesn't work very well to me, the vocals feel quite detached from the backing. maybe they should have slowed it down a little?
― ufo, Thursday, 12 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
sappier sickly string arrangements def not what i want from my phoebe bridgers :((you too, julien baker!)
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
the strings sound great on the album version of “savior complex”
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that sample track doesn't make me feel really excited about this EP. But it's okay, can't blame her for playing around with something during the pandemic, and the original album is still getting plenty of spin around here.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
Sounds real nice to me. Rob Moose is a wonderful arranger
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
Really into "Kyoto" recently. Not sure why it took so long to go from "solid tune I hear on the radio" to "could cry just thinking about."
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
She just released a cover of Iris by Goo Goo Dolls with Maggie Rogers helping out on harmonies:
https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/track/iris
Judging by every cover she has made in the past year or so, I think she should really consider doing a proper covers album.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 November 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link
lol @ the cover art
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 13 November 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:52 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
it's unbelievable to me this album is only a few months old. kyoto and chinese satellite in particular feel like songs i've known for years.
― treeship., Sunday, 15 November 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
Seems «Iris» has been taken down?
― Mule, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
It was a one-day-available deal
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
Ah, it was a 24 hour benefit thing, apparently.
― Mule, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
it sold an amazing amount during that one day -- 28,000 copies in the us, which is ~double or more what the top-selling digital download tends to pull in a typical week these days
― dyl, Monday, 16 November 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRyvr6h3nHw
here's it if anyone missed it
it's better than the original
― ufo, Monday, 16 November 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
I like how this thread title evokes a Seinfeld-ish stand-up bit...“First there was Courtney Barnett... she was pretty good! Like if Sheryl Crow had a few Nirvana CDs and a reliable weed connection! Then there was Soccer Mommy... when I first heard her, I thought Liz Phair was trying to sneak back into the industry under an assumed name! And now this Phoebe lady... what’s the deal??”
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Monday, 16 November 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
This is why it happened
if trump loses I will cover iris by the goo goo dolls— traitor joe (@phoebe_bridgers) November 3, 2020
I wonder if it was recorded already and she was just waiting for an occasion to drop it
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 November 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link
i like it but it is not better than the original
― dyl, Monday, 16 November 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link
Yeah, this is just silly.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 November 2020 05:00 (three years ago) link
needs more nick cage
― foopin posts and pissin shits (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 November 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link
How’s this for a fun fact:
«Rzeznik named the song after country folk singer-songwriter Iris DeMent, after he noticed her name in a concert listing in the LA Weekly newspaper.»
― Mule, Monday, 16 November 2020 07:13 (three years ago) link
i've never really liked "iris", it's too overwraught, so i was quite impressed by how bridgers made it sound like she could have written it, i much prefer her arrangement
― ufo, Monday, 16 November 2020 09:44 (three years ago) link
The original is one of those songs you just have to give in to, imo. I tried to resist when I was a sullen teenager, but lost the fight pretty quick.
― Mule, Monday, 16 November 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link
The original video for Iris is weird, having now just paid attention to it for the first time ever.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 16 November 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
2 Phoebes made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJlR3pvgLQA
― DJI, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link
lol the woman who tweeted this has now turned it into a full-fledged song
in 2023 Phoebe Bridgers is gonna drop her third album & the opening track will be about hooking up in the car while waiting in line to get vaccinated at dodger stadium and it’s gonna make me cry— Jensen McRae (@Jensen_McRae) January 15, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKNnby2fhEU
― jaymc, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
passes as solidly believable julien bridgers pastiche till the percussion comes in
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
lol not bad
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
Last Night:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LE5tafaayc
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
smashing guitars is so friggin lame
― call all destroyer, Monday, 8 February 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
blew off the stage
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 8 February 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
John Prine to thread!
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
Ugh, John Hiatt I mean.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
Counterpoint: Loudon Wainwright
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 February 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link
Smashing guitars is lame... but also looks kind of fun.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link