start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

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Yeah I get the point about stirring it up, but I also feel like politely sharing resources and articles is a bit different from shouting about how great your preferred candidate is, but I suppose it's pretty hard to count on Americans not to stick with column A without sliding into column B. I was just happy to have some more resources about local judges which, in a very solidly blue state, is arguably the most important part of our ballots.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

some people started a "no rules" discussion group after being told not to talk politics in the neighborhood FB group, and then the mods began kicking people out if they were anti-Trump

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

because being against something I am for is putting a restriction on my freedom

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

There's a local hot dog stand down the street that really offers so much more. Great burgers, super sandwiches, an array of sausages, etc. It's run by great people, very generous, and literally everything they make is delicious. Every week since the pandemic began they've been offering a family meal special, essentially a creative comfort food one-off that feeds 8+ people, give or take, for about $65-$75, which is an incredible deal. Of course that's typically too much food for a family of four with two picky teens, so we've only gotten it a couple of times, but they do usually offer the same meal as an an individual serving, too. (For example, this week is the Italian wedding soup, bread, caprese salad, and a big pan of lasagna bolognese, a ton of food, but you can get all that stuff as an individual meal, which honestly feeds two.) So there's that. But then they also have an array of others seasonal items and one-offs, from an incredible pot roast sandwich or meatball sub, so things like a gyro sausage (lamb sausage and lots of the usually gyro components) to a turducken sausage (with stuffing and gravy and cranberry on top) to the Rudolph around Christmas (it's reindeer, with blueberries mixed in the filling). All awesome. And this is on top of the everyday awesome menu which sometimes has its *own* specials. Like $5 burgers one day, buy-one, get-one another day, and so on.

I am irrationally angry because everything is so fucking good, from the fries up, but I just can't keep up ordering from them every single week, let alone every single day. Yet taking a week or two off means missing so much stuff that may not be offered again for months, if ever.

What a bunch of assholes.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

nailing the spirit of the thread there

fuck those generous guys and their amazing selection of food

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Shopping for a new fridge on an emergency basis, I kept seeing upgrades to "counter-depth fridge" for a more money. I assumed I didn't understand what this was, but, yup, it means you pay more money for a fucking SMALLER FRIDGE just so it lines up with your counter.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

Just wait til you see what they charge for not including a handle or the outside of the door i.e. an 'integrated' model

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

people pay fortunes for fridges that pretend to be regular old warm kitchen cupboards

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

damn I'm going to have to start buying fridges again now, for the last decade I've been getting them for free from the child trust fund as a disabled carer. The last one was quite an unnecessary change, but it was the last year I could claim one. So I sent this perfectly working Hi-sense one to the fridge graveyard and found out afterwards my younger (zero-contract struggling) brother has been living without a fridge for a year now. FFs I'm bad on so many levels here.

calzino, Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

yeah, just for a further layer of self-hatred, my lame attempt at a "For Fridge's sake" joke probably is shit as well!

calzino, Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

i have one friend who confuses "diuretic" for "diarrhetic" and will tell people not to drink lots of tea et al cos it might make them poop.

i'm like....it ain't even spelled the same!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

I get really annoyed when people misuse the word "fulsome". Then, I get really annoyed at myself when it becomes time to type the word "fully" or "wholly" and my brain gets evil and screams "just use the word 'fulsome', you stupid fuck"

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

remember the weird lemonade diet that told people to drink the poop tea so they would cleanse their bowels? that was diarrhetic

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

oh god, i knew people that 'used' that

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

I get really annoyed when people misuse the word "fulsome".

Yeah, tell it to Johnny Cash!

I hate it when medicines or doctors advise you to avoid coffee or other diuretics, but that's dumb, because *any* liquid is a diuretic, in that it will make you pee, and the (relatively) tiny amount of caffeine in coffee or tea, while, yes, a more dramatic diuretic, would have to be consumed in immense quantities for its diuretic properties to really kick in. Drinking a lot of coffee or tea doesn't make you pee any more than drinking a lot of water or beer does, and the notion that drinking too much of anything might lead to dehydration is counterintuitive and dumb.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

microsoft word bullets and numbering. i know you were humming along just fine but what if for number 10 we got rid of the hanging indent and changed the left indent from .25 to .39, and if you try to change it it will look weird for reasons you won't be able to figure out, also there's no way for you to copy the paragraph settings to match it to the bullet that is not ruined. don't try to backspace to get it into the first half of the list. you can't backspace anymore. good luck using the ruler to slide everything into PLAAAAAAAACE

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

there's no way for you to copy the paragraph settings to match it to the bullet that is not ruined

Yes there is

Ctrl-shift-C: copy format

Ctrl-shift-V: paste format

Or define and apply a style

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

oh i only knew about the defining styles thing which is too annoying. i already fixed this the cumbersome way but i will copy format the next time it shits itself.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

i am mostly in a bad mood from people suggesting edits that i don't like

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

Cool. Longer answer:

Ideally you would (and should) use styles for this. Get one paragraph looking right (whatever "right" means to you). Select that mofo.

Go to the styles menu and choose "define style based on selection" Alternatively, if there was already a style associated with that paragraph, then choose "update style based on selection."

If you are extra clever you can even restrict future users of your document so that they can only use the styles you have defined.

If you are not handy with styles, see above. Get yr cursor inside a paragraph that you like the look of. Ctrl-Shift-C. Boom, the paragraph-level formatting is copied.

Then get yr cursor inside a paragraph that you don't like the look of. Ctrl-shift-V. Boom. The settings you copied are now applied to your new paragraph.

There are wrinkles when you also have to deal with character-level formats, but let's set that aside for now.

Numbering going wonky is another story, and there, the right mouse button is your friend. You can restart numbering, join the numbers to a prior list, or put in something wacky and custom of your own.

Hope this helps

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

I work on an iMac. I use six different Spaces. I jump to different Spaces by pressing ⌘+(Space #).

I also do a lot of text editing in our web CMS. When I need to format some copy into our Header 5 style, I have to go up to the drop-down menu at the top and scroll all the way down to it. When I want something bolded, I only have to press ⌘+B.

A few weeks ago, I was working at home. I only have three Spaces on that computer. By habit, I hit ⌘+5 to go to my Adobe Space and instead, the copy I had highlighted in the CMS transformed into my Header 5 style. Suddenly I realized how foolish I had been and how many hours of my life I had lost by having to go all the way up to that drop-down menu.

So I got back here to work and switched all my Spaces shortcuts to Alt+(Space #). Which of course means, I have spent the last few weeks hitting the wrong keys or rolling back to different tabs in the browser or even my favorite, somehow turning everything but the blue filter on in Photoshop.

It would be a lot easier if I could change the shortcut for Header 5 and go back to ⌘ for the Spaces, but I honestly can't tell if that function occurs in either my computer, my browser or my CMS software.

It probably would be easier to just change everything back and use the drop-down menu again, but I have blind faith in myself that I can do this, man, I can stop hitting ⌘ when I mean ALT and vice-versa.

And when I fail, yes, I get irrationally angry.

pplains, Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

my current IA is office instant messaging habits

Hi
(i reply right away)
....

can i ask you a question
(i reply in the affirmative right away)
....

etc

OMG JUST DO THE GREETING & QUESTION IN ONE MESSAGE

the slow rollout of waiting for you to type & edit the introductory pre-questionfanfare drives me up the goddamn wall

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

i do that sometimes. i think it’s because i don’t want to come across like all mr barrelin into your life with a task/request/question without stopping to say hi. in real life you’d establish a bit of a “hey how ya doin”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 08:49 (three years ago) link

IRL though, you don't go up to a coworker and go

"Hey, Bob. How's it going?"

"Oh fine. What's up?"

...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
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"Was wondering if FTB Bank had sent over their compliance forms to us yet? We've got their proofs all ready, but haven't heard back from Jeff, their operations guy."

pplains, Friday, 30 October 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

except i do

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

sometimes i shorten the first part to 'hi, bob'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

of course if the space station is actually on fire i will skip that part obv

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

110% with vegemitegrrl on this one. in real life a bit of back and forth is required to establish you're not interrupting something important, that doesn't matter in chatz.

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

I like "hope you're doing well," which accomplishes the requisite politeness without requiring a response.

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

I'm with Veg on this. The only reason you are IMing me is to ask a favor, so get it done with and don't waste my time.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

with a colleague you're particularly close to i like just kind of dropping in like 'hey'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

Frustrating to be on a roll with work and get IMd about trivial stuff that now takes precedence because someone's waiting for an answer.

I use "Hi. Q when you have a moment." particularly if their status is Busy or In a Meeting, and while waiting for acknowledgment, type out the question so it's ready. I've worked with enough people whose needs are assumed to be my #1 priority, I don't want to be that person. I have standing windows with a few folk where I'll just ask the question, though.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

except i do

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, October 30, 2020 6:30 AM bookmarkflaglink

You stand there in front of them for 30 seconds, not saying a word?

pplains, Friday, 30 October 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

when it's the beautiful office crush, yes

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

I fucking hate this, my last manager used to do it all the time.

"Can I ask you a question?"

"yes"

...stop what I'm doing and wait for the question to come through...

10 minutes later...

"so can you do X?"

just ask me the fucking question ffs

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 October 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

"Can I ask you a question?"

"You just did."

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 October 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

Ha, that makes me rationally angry. "Can I just ask a quick question?" "Obviously not."

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 30 October 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

xp i want to thank u for copy formatting it changed my life even though i wanted to say THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR SOLUTIONS

wednesday i was supposed to talk to my supervisor at 4 about something kind of big ("project A") but she got too busy and when 5 rolled around, knowing she would be off thursday and friday, i emailed her like "should we just talk about project A on monday" and her response was "yes, anyway project B is more of a priority." i was thrilled at the prospect of having yesterday to get other work done without worrying about A or B. yesterday morning her supervisor emailed me and said "let's talk about how we can get project A and project B moving." then when i told her i would be off today this triggered a day of frantically trying to finish both of these huge things by the end of the day even though it should have mattered to no one if they were done monday instead, and would have been a better process because i and my supervisor would have been able to pull some needed info out of a third incompetent/confused/old person without involving upper management, who is now mad at this person.

at 4:30 with almost everything ready to go we had a phone call and she's like "*sigh* i don't know why we had to rush to get this out." internally i'm like WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS DAY FOR YOU ASSHOLE

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

people who can't do simple math in their head

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

A good friend of ours recently bought a Peloton (sucker) and gave us their old, barely used exercise bike (thoughtful, generous sucker), which we figure will be good to have on hand when we can't leave the house this winter. Rather than pay for some silly subscription service, we just have the bike facing the Roku TV, and on youtube we can find any number of solid spin class workouts. There's one trainer I've already settled on who is energetic, enthusiastic and annoying, just what a good trainer should be. She differentiates the workouts by intensity, duration and music, and it's the last one that's been making me IR. For example, this morning it was a "throwback" theme, but only in the loosest, weirdest sense, since the playlist went (in order) a dance remix of "You Can't Always Get What You Want," "Groove is in the Heart," a dance remix (!?) of "In the Air Tonight," some remix of "P.Y.T.," and then "Bittersweet Symphony." So I guess she was conflating "throwback" with "old," which ... fine. But another playlist she had was "old school hip-hip," which was nothing of the sort. In fact, she even commented on the title because she was playing something by J. Cole, and she says "I know what some of you are thinking, this isn't old school hip-hop, but I like J. Cole!" Which, again, fine, but then why call it "old school hip-hop," especially if you are aware it's not? It reminds me of the utterly ridiculous playlists music streaming services offer when you tell it to play "'80s music" or something, and you get, like, Pet Shop Boys followed by Guns 'n' Roses. Which, yes, are both *from* the '80s, but come on, algorithm, you know what I mean.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

On the algorithm's side there.

edited for dog profanity (sic), Sunday, 1 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I don't know that this is "irrational" at all, but I don't know there is a better thread for this. We've been going through multiple weeks of obnoxious foundation work at a construction site nearby that is vibrating the hell out of multiple houses on our block, ours included. It sucks, but what has made it infinitely worse is the absolutely terrible communication and lack of transparency about what is happening. Since this is a mostly residential neighborhood that almost never sees construction, there were a few community meetings about the project as it was approaching. There was the typical discussions about working hours, noise, traffic, etc etc - the usual stuff, but there was never any mention of work that would cause serious vibrations.

So fast forward to almost a month ago and we all wake up on a Monday morning to our house vibrating very loudly and noisily. Through the neighborhood email group, we discover we're not alone and lots of people have had stuff falling off their walls. After a few emails to our alderwoman and the project representative, we finally get an email that is basically, "oh yeah, it's going to be like this while we do this vibration intensive foundation work, but two weeks tops". Well into our third week they send out another email, "we're almost done, but there's another piece we have to do in a few weeks, we'll let you know when that comes". So last Friday, the end of the third full week, we get an email, "we are now done with this work, so no more vibrations until that future piece, which we will let you know about ahead of time and should take a day or two". Great, Monday through Wednesday this week has been blessedly free of vibrations and the associated noise.

Then last night we got yet another email that was basically, "lol j/k we forgot about more we need to do so we are starting back up tomorrow morning" with no indication at all of duration or timing, so we've already been shaken for almost two hours straight with no end in sight.

Our alderwoman has stopped answering emails about it, in which our neighbors ask for clarity. Her voicemail is full so we can't even leave a message with her. At one point a representative from the City's building department was looped in and basically told us, "we've checked the logs and they are under the regulatory limits, so deal with it". Which, is probably very true and there isn't anything we can do to stop it, but that doesn't stop us from suffering the headaches, nausea and lack of concentration. All I'd like is an honest answer about the duration and clear communication.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

I think your anger is very rational. Did you see the scaffolding episode of "How to with John Wilson" with the woman who iirc has had people working on the scaffolding outside her window for a year?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

No! I need to watch that show, I've heard great things.

I mean, I know there isn't much we can do, I get that. But especially since I've been on the other side for construction projects, I'm more sensitive to the mistakes they've made. The things they should have done differently:

1) Been open and honest about the vibration intensive work from the start, so we weren't all blindsided.
2) A clear email chain of communication had been established, so there was no reason NOT to send out a heads up the week before this work started.
3) Never promise the shortest duration, always promise the longer - that way you look good when it finishes sooner than people expected.
4) Don't send out a "we're finished" email if you aren't.

It's just frustrating, I feel like the onus should be on the developer/contractor to clearly communicate when the work is obviously disruptive to this many people.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

Now, more irrational, I can't stand superfluous packaging copy. I have this Target-brand mouthwash, and it features this long list of benefits:

6 Benefits
*helps prevent cavities
*restores enamel
*helps strengthen teeth
*kills bad breath germs
*freshens breath
*cleans the entire mouth**

Now, first of all, why six? Some of these are pretty loose and generic, or kind of redundant (like kills bad breath germs and freshens breath); and by that low standard they could probably list even more ("provides that fresh tingle!"). Second, the last item is "cleans the entire mouth,' which ... pretty much covers half of those things, anyway. But then at the end, there is a disclaimer footnote (**), and when you flip over the bottle that leads you to **"this product is not intended to replace brushing and flossing." Because of course brushing and flossing pretty much does all of the things listed here, anyway, but ... this mouthwash does those things, too ... again ... a second time ... but not as important as the first.

Usually superfluous copy is even more superfluous. Like, you buy a carton of milk and it comes emblazoned with "try it in your cereal!" or something like that. We have an ancient box of Pop Tarts, and on the side it announces "Fully Baked & Ready to Eat! Or Heat. Or Freeze. Or Stack ..." First of all, stacked? Wtf. But regardless, "ready to eat" pretty much does all the heavy lifting, why do I also need to be told I can eat it hot (if I want) or cold (if I want)? I just glanced at some pretzel thins we have from Trader Joe's, and the entire back of the bag lists all the things you can eat/serve them with, ending with "they also can be enjoyed on their own right out of the bag.' Well, no shit.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

finally, a no-fuss pretzel

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

jon i really sympathize with that. it sounds awful.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

3) Never promise the shortest duration, always promise the longer - that way you look good when it finishes sooner than people expected.

So many people lose jobs for getting this wrong. It's all about managing expectations.

We once spent a month getting an email every Friday from an increasingly flustered and apologetic project manager explaining why a month long job wasn't finished in a week. Everyone kicked up a stink and there was endless stress and shouting and all that pointless shit (self) important people do.
If the original plan had said a month people would have maybe moaned about the length of time for about ten minutes then forgot about it.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Thanks Tracer, it's just frustrating that of course this work lines up exactly when we are all forced to be home for work and learning.

onion, exactly! Managing expectations is so key, it's painful to watch people be so terrible about it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

That's why flights always say they're running late, even though they often make up the time in the air, if not get in early. They'd much rather threaten to be late and arrive early than promise to be on time and arrive late. See also: snow forecasts. Better to threaten a blizzard and get three inches than call for three inches and get dumped on.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link


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