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Ta!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 October 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

shocking news, my birth year is the one field it won't let me change :O

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 October 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

Starve the kids not a news story apparently! Basically nothing on the BBC news website about this ongoing controversy but there is some Pro gov anti migrant stuff.

plax (ico), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54642788 is on the politics page but yeah

stet, Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

I'm not surprised that someone has written a book defending the BBC from the political Right (while seemingly ignoring the critiques from the Left).

But I *am* surprised that it's Peter York.

https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/74145/peter-york.html?tab=penguin-books

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

there were chunks of this in guardian review on saturday.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/23/what-now-for-the-bbc

i'm not sure whether i'm allowed to have an opinion on this.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

i'm not sure whether i'm allowed to have an opinion on this.


idgi, why wouldn’t you

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54014210


The top priority would be to "renew our commitment to impartiality", he said.

...

He added: "If you want to be an opinionated columnist or a partisan campaigner on social media then that is a valid choice, but you should not be working at the BBC."

New social media guidelines for presenters and staff will be "rigorously enforced", he said.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

(was mostly tongue in cheek. we are waiting on published guidelines and then we will see. a lot of staff rightly not happy about this.)

koogs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

Assumption that he’s talking about on-air news presenters but “should not be working at the BBC” is wide enough to include like, HR staff and second oboist so yeah - need clarification there. Requiring that every employee be devoid of engagement and political conviction is not going to lead to better output

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

it's also unlikely to address most of the issues identifed with ooh just off the top of my head Laura K

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

Koogs: yes, I read that article last night, hence my raising York.

Am I the only person surprised to see York taking this stand? It really doesn't seem like him.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

yes NV agreed

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

here is a news story about three horrific unjustifiable murders

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54729957

here is a section of that story called What's the context?

Nice was the target of one of France's deadliest attacks in recent years, when a 31-year-old Tunisian drove a truck into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on 14 July 2016, killing 86 people.

Days later a priest, Father Jacques Hamel, had his throat cut during morning Mass at a church in Rouen.

Thursday's attack has echoes of another attack earlier this month near a school north-west of Paris. Samuel Paty, who was a teacher in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, was beheaded days after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to some of his pupils.

The murder has heightened tensions in France and the government's attempt to crack down on radical Islam has angered Turkey and other countries.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a boycott of French goods.

The situation worsened after a cartoon on Mr Erdogan appeared in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

as you can see, it details some of the previous brutal murders carried out by people acting in the name of Islam

here is a story about a brutal racist attack carried out on two women in Paris last week

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/21/two-muslim-women-stabbed-under-eiffel-tower-by-white-women-shouting-dirty-arabs-13455196/

sorry for the Metro link, i can't find any coverage on the BBC site. including in the "context" section of today's report

i'm keeping this out of the main "terrorism in Europe" thread because i don't want to rerun some prior disagreements. i don't know what conclusions i can safely draw from these observations, but they worry me.

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidance/individual-use-of-social-media#2rulesandexpectationsofsocialmediauseforallcolleaguesemployeescontractorsandfreelancers

h) Do not post anything that couldn’t be said on-air or on BBC platforms.

i) Do not sacrifice accuracy for speed. Second and right is always better than first and wrong – an inaccurate post is a problem for you, your colleagues and the BBC.

j) Do not break news on a personal account; if you have a story to break, the BBC platforms are your priority, even if it takes slightly longer.

I wonder who the drafter of those clauses had in mind

stet, Thursday, 29 October 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

great, just in time! wouldn't want to say spread disinformation during an election!

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

I’d love to see this one in court tbh

Exclusive: BBC staff have been banned from attending LGBT pride events and told they could be suspended if they breach the new rules. David Jordan, the head of editorial policy and standards, took the decision on Wednesday. https://t.co/9ZNm7pJsrV

— Benjamin Butterworth (@benjaminbutter) October 29, 2020

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

this new system works GREAT

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

are they also forbidden from publicly disclosing their sexuality?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

ban poppies also

stet, Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

The tl thinks this is so the bbc don’t have to take a view on trans rights.

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

just another day of feeling one's sense of personal safety eroded!

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

gradually and faintly, like shoreline erosion.

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

Are we really going to have to move back to our own cunt island

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Also been told that staff have been told to 'not follow too many LGBT+ charities' and also follow groups who challenge and are against LGBTQ+ equality in favour of not being biased? This is MESSY

— Jamie Windust (@jamie_windust) October 29, 2020

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

more like this is farcical and evil

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

what could be more impartial than using the phrase "virtue signalling"?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Are we really going to have to move back to our own cunt island

― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:48 (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

got cruised by priests (up mount brandon) on most recent visit

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

so uh conflicted

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

How old were said priests

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

young priests. like phd student age.

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

not accidentally does the sermon twice age priests

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

fuck this appalling shit

Asked for clarity on confusion, BBC said pride is fine if it is seen as a “a celebration”, but if the “trans issue" (as it was described) is involved then it passes as a protest and news and current affairs staff should not attend.

— Benjamin Butterworth (@benjaminbutter) October 29, 2020

stet, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-54756575

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link

One of the most disgraceful articles I've ever seen on the site.

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link

jfc

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

just a bbc reporter tagging in some far-right accounts for signal boosting pic.twitter.com/fdowoX6lMo

— allan saint-maximin fan account (@ChrisKPH) November 1, 2020

nate woolls, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

When Covid lockdowns put an end to his work as a wedding DJ, Jeremy Davis was free to launch himself into his other passion - trying to stop migrant boats heading from France to the shores of the UK.

right-wing extremist has a nervous breakdown, someone call Prevent. Would be the correct take, how impartial of them.

calzino, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

I believe i pointed out somewhere else this week it's always the DJs

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link

She’s tagging them because they were all featured in a documentary she made (with Grace Dent?) on the topic. Obvs have not heard it but at least one of those accounts suggested it was fair to their cause, which seems like the bigger issue. It looks like she has made a couple of other docs on the same theme over the last two years for them.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

Listen to those protesting against migrant boats landing in Kent @BBCRadio4 @RHannaford

@SteveLaws19 @PatriotActive66 @LittleBoats2020 tell @gracedent why they think it's time to take a stand:https://t.co/ih2RlYtluO

— Sue Mitchell (@SueM1tchell) October 12, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

xp lol I was just searching for this

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague) wrote this on thread Friend Infected With Right Wing Brain Worms - What to Do? on board I Love Everything on 27-Oct-2020

Lol it always seems to be DJs

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

"The Untold", yeah, right. BBC going hard on getting Corbyn thrown out of the Labour Party on Politics London this morning - even though they surely must know there's no possible legal or otherwise basis for an expulsion.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

process will be stitched up though surely. seems like it would be politically v hard for kieth to walk all the assembled forces back down the mountain

||||||||, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

Have they aligned on what he has been suspended for yet?

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:09 (three years ago) link

Apart from being Jeremy Crumlin.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

i suspect this is mainly about Kieth playing the strongman (incredibly stupidly) on antisemitism, and any left wing people quitting the party in frustration and disgust is just a bonus

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

Depending on what he has been suspended for, if they did kick him out, they might have to also kick out any member / MP supporting him or sharing a platform with him in the future, per the CST pledges that Starmer signed up to - though pledges obviously are flexible where he is concerned.

Rayner didn’t seem particularly clear on Newsnight aiui, idk what the briefing has been ahead of Marr et al today.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

Starmer's done this because he lost his temper and lashed out and also because he's a control freak cop boss

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

i imagine they're looking for the least embarrassing way to walk this back but who knows? it's not like anything matters

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link


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