NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

Hmmm, I wonder if that means there won't be a standard edition at some point. I can't imagine Neil leaving money on the table but then again, maybe he will. Anyway it's moot because I don't have a spare $250 lying around.

I'm guessing there will be a standard edition that more or less matches the CD version of Archives 1.

I don't want that giant stupid looking box.

So I guess "subscribe to back in stock notifications" means that thing sold out already?

there will be a non-deluxe edition

1st edition sold out

Apparently more are coming, Neil posted an apologetic note on the Archives site about how that pre-order was handled. But it reads like there may not be a non-deluxe edition. There's a whole big brouhaha over at the Hoffman forums.

I guess the next version will be exactly the same as the first pre-order deluxe edition, except a different color? Same content and same price, $250 though. I really would love a standard CD version for much less, like the first Archives.

But you know, the uncertainty is par for the course with ol' Shakey.

Obviously their tastes and idiosyncrasies are what make/made them who they were/are, but Neil and Prince, they just seemed utterly incapable of handling their catalogs in a fan-friendly way. Just always moving on to the next shiny object/technology/website.

yeah i always imagine dudes like that as being a worst case scenario combination of having complete and utter sign-off-on-everything final say over everything, while at the same time being completely incapable of being forced to pay attention/attend the actual boring meetings where they are actually needed to look at & sign off on stuff.

I really love the era being covered here and the contents are amazing, but I'm not paying $250 and chasing pre-order links for a limited number of these deluxe boxes. I'll wait patiently in the hopes that a significantly more affordable CD only version pops up soon.

It's extra-galling that so much of this is already legally out there.

Still not seeing anything that indicates there won't be a standard edition?

To me it reads as if the deluxe sold out so fast that they realized they can sell more posters and books for $250.

I want this so bad but there's no way I'm paying that much when I already have most of it.

I agree, that note from Neil is not clear on that point at all. I really hope there will be one and not that they are the best crowd from which to judge, but a lot of H0ffmanites are insistent this deluxe is the only version. Who knows though, probably some of those dorks wanting to keep up the value of the deluxe boxes so they can flip 'em later.

It's extra-galling that so much of this is already legally out there.

yeah tbh 13 unreleased tracks (excluding versions) out of a 10-disc box is a bit less than what i was hoping for

It's such a fuck-you to the fans. "Hey, thanks for buying Tuscaloosa and the Roxy set and Homegrown! Now you have the rare opportunity to buy them again! And for a lot more money, too! You're welcome!"

Yeah, that sucks, but he pulled the same thing with the first Archives box too.

I'm disappointed that the long rumored Odeon-Budokan double live thing is getting smashed down to a single disc.

I think that one was double-live only in that it was going to be a double LP.

I'm 100% positive Odeon-Budokan will be issued as an expanded standalone double-disc or boxed set. After Archives II sells out.

XP...so it could feasibly be an 80-minute CD.

Although... checking that tracklist, that wouldn't appear to be the case, unless Cowgirl & Cortez are jumbo jams. Iirc, the circulating boots have more electric stuff.

odeon budokan here is designed as a single LP, one side acoustic, the other electric. it's about 45 minutes long which is about 45 minutes too short.

fuck this, I'm out. gonna take my copy of Homegrown and go sulk.

fuck you, Neil

messing with the Odeon show, wtf

ha, well, I think that this is the live LP that was prepped back in 76 and left unreleased. but yeah, he should be putting out an entire spring 76 w/ crazy horse show.

is anyone really buying this for those 13 songs? how many of those are just alternate versions?

my understanding is theres a bunch of live/alternate versions of previously released songs, as well as 13 songs "that have never been released in any form"

i can't believe they aren't doing a basic cd box set, so dumb

I can't believe he's not putting out a 25-LP edition of this.

i can't believe his website won't let you copy and paste the text that's on it

it must only be read in its original fidelity

the ONLY website that recreates the memories of digging out your favorite LPs from your dusty file cabinet!

i get frustrated at NYA but also love the sheer audacity of how fucking insane and backwards the ux is

Yeah the 13 "new" songs is really misleading, One Eye Open otm. There are 13 new songs that have never been released in any for whatsoever, and I think I want to say like 58 alternate and live versions that have been previously unreleased. So I still think it's a pretty cool set, considering the era covered. But as with pretty much anything Neil does, there is a base level of confusion and disappointment that comes with anything he announces.

alternate versions in neil's case can be pretty meaningful too, for example you could say that "white line" off homegrown was already a released song on ragged glory but they might as well be different songs

In the midst of this, there's a Greendale live archive thing out soon no one's talking about.

49 previously unreleased alternate versions and 13 "new" songs (most of these have not been bootlegged before either). i mean, it's not nothing!

but i mean, yeah ... I must've said it at least three times before on this very thread: Neil should have started releasing definitive "deluxe" reissues of his records 15 years ago with bonus discs. And then continued the "performance series" releases. Would've made all of this very simple and straightforward.

Right, weren't we supposed to be getting that deluxe Ragged Glory this year? But now we get... Greendale? Oh, Neil.

haha i mean greendale is the most *neil* of all neil boondoggles and i don't think he will ever give up on it

He loves Greendale

He isn't wrong

Oh I'll buy the Greendale thing to, I just was looking forward to that Ragged Glory thing.

too, dammit, thanks Neil

the hearse theater has a song from solo trans today - "i got a problem" - oh man this is gonna be some nutty shit

also "homefires" is up on NYA, great song

i get frustrated at NYA but also love the sheer audacity of how fucking insane and backwards the ux is

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

i know i make fun of it a lot, but i honestly feel this way too!

it is old internet for sure

its so bad

ha yeah its definitely old internet, which I kind of love it for - clearly conceived for the era when people would spend a whole afternoon exploring one website