defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

Blind pig, acorn...

If it’s really true that the US Marshals purposely avoided arresting this US citizen on US soil, and chose to shoot and kill him instead without provocation, then everyone involved and responsible should be prosecuted. https://t.co/VYMrBDFN1K

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 15, 2020

I'm proud he resigned with his characteristic accountability, lack of self-pity, and insistence on the high road.

My Resignation From The Intercept

The same trends of repression, censorship and ideological homogeneity plaguing the national press generally have engulfed the media outlet I co-founded, culminating in censorship of my own articles.https://t.co/dZrlYGfEBf

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 29, 2020

I am EXTREMELY annoyed that isn't "My Resignation from the Internet."

"My Resignation from not having a lucrative Substack Newsletter"

let my man cook

The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct.

Oh boy, cant wait

Imagine the Hunter Biden story is the hill you choose to die on.

They should have let him publish his crybaby article and responded with a rebuttal article consisting of: "Even if this were true, no one cares, Glenn."

lol this guy

zing

Intercept EIC Betsy Reed sent me this statement regarding the departure of @ggreenwald, saying there's a "fundamental disagreement over the role of editors in the production of journalism and the nature of censorship." pic.twitter.com/Od2TTKLsyq

— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) October 29, 2020

cot damn

Savage and well deserved.

I could see him just going full Fox News, as in with his own show there, by the end of the year.

hear me out, a podcast where glenn greenwald & mollie hemingway scream a list of enemies at each other for 90 straight minutes

— kilgore trout, tucker carlson’s mailman (@KT_So_It_Goes) October 29, 2020

Lee Fang is 100% team-Greenwald which seems weird, but Lee has had a pretty rough year so I'm not sure where his head his at.

Saw something like this coming as soon as the Intercept started publishing pieces that occasionally criticized Republicans rather than exclusively Democrats. Glenn must have hated that

What's new in Lee Fang world? He blocked me a couple years ago, so I honestly have no idea.

RIP Morbs

"where he will face no collaboration with editors" is a great line

Anyone trying to reach me: my previous email has been terminated.

You can use GlennGreenw✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 29, 2020

please send me all your secret leaks to my google mail

sent him an email

Jiggles Handle <jiggleshan✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧>
5:21 PM (0 minutes ago)
to GlennGreenwald

britney can i get your sister email why because she look intersting

lol

looooqol

Marcy Wheeler tears Greenwald's story (which he's now posted online, because of course he fucking has) into thin strips and beats him with them...

A long Twitter thread starts here. She picks out four false statements in the story's first paragraph, and keeps going.

Great news: Glenn's going to hack himself!

This is not going to work out like he wants, I'm pretty sure. pic.twitter.com/MtTYehW89T

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) October 29, 2020

does he still have a fanbase?

I could see him just going full Fox News, as in with his own show there, by the end of the year

He's going to team up with Taibbi.

Oh, and just FTR:

Months before the NY Post story, a document passed around far-right websites detailed a vast Hunter Biden conspiracy.

The document's creator, Martin Aspen, claimed to be a Swiss intel professional.

But Aspen's face was created by AI. He doesn't exist.https://t.co/oA4aKTjkUp pic.twitter.com/U1MNqh8WmW

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 29, 2020

List of questions @ggreenwald sent the Biden campaign. pic.twitter.com/civKyypfXk

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) October 29, 2020

expect it of sullivan and weiss, but i feel like a guy with a law degree should maybe understand that a 'refusal to print absolutely everything i write' does not equal 'censorship'

jfc

Just on a writing level, how do submit a lede like this? pic.twitter.com/Y1p5qhJUUr

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) October 29, 2020

he put up the emails between him and editors and it makes him look insane and/or like a giant baby https://greenwald.substack.com/p/emails-with-intercept-editors-showing

Response of Betsy Reed yesterday

Our intention in sending the memo was for you to revise the story for publication. However, it's clear from your response this morning that you are unwilling to engage in a productive editorial process on this article, as we had hoped.

It would be unfortunate and detrimental to The Intercept for this story to be published elsewhere.

I have to add that your comments about The Intercept and your colleagues are offensive and unacceptable.

Betsy

why are you censoring meeeeeee

You'll never guess what the top story is on Tucker Carlson's show tonight. pic.twitter.com/0QkMwa7ws2

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) October 30, 2020

dude should just go all the way and change his name to "(emphasis added) iGlenn Greenwald". Has anyone else in history loved adding emphasis more?

Update 10:23pm: !

I get what Taibbi and Greenwald are saying, but dying on this hill in the service of another four years of a guy who is openly saying he wants to be a dictator is a choice that I'm having trouble understanding. Like would they have wanted to be the guys in Germany yelling about how unfair the media was being to Hitler? I dunno, maybe they're right, and losing trust in our media outlets has driven us into our media bubbles and made everything worse, but I think the media (old-school and social) is just trying to figure out how to deal with a bad actor who is happy to lie at scale, with a huge ecosystem of leeches, grifters, and conspiracy-peddling enablers happy to keep the lies rolling. I don't think that Greenwald or Taibbi has the answer to this crisis, and it seems like they are focusing more on an effect of Trumpism rather than a cause, much as they'd like to think it was the reverse.

dji otm. It’s possible that something embarrassing to Joe Biden could emerge from a deep dive of the hunter emails, but at this time, who cares? Trump is more corrupt than Biden.

expect it of sullivan and weiss, but i feel like a guy with a law degree should maybe understand that a 'refusal to print absolutely everything i write' does not equal 'censorship'

― mookieproof, Thursday, October 29, 2020 3:13 PM (five hours ago)

Having heard what law school consists of I wouldn’t go confusing “having a law degree” with being smart

tbf i didn't say 'smart'

heh fair enough

maybe they're right, and losing trust in our media outlets has driven us into our media bubbles and made everything worse

I think they are 100% right on this... the problem is they themselves (Greenwald and Taibbi) aren't any exception to the rule, despite any indignant cries of impartiality to the contrary. And the insulated, hyper partisan corner they've driven themselves into specifically is maybe the most poisonous one around.

I would say they are hyper-UN-partisan in a time that demands some side-taking.

lol, Greenwald’s constant readiness to go on Tucker at the drop of a hat would seem to put the lie to any insipid claim of nonpartisanship on his part.

Has he even had anything bad to say about this administration?

I would say they are hyper-UN-partisan in a time that demands some side-taking.

This sounds right - Taibbi less than Greenwald, but they're both fitting right in the kind of civil libertarian mold where an abstract principle about media quality/censorship is more important to them than the real world.

Glenn. fucking. greenwald.

Recall that under my contract, and the practice of The Intercept over the last seven years, none of my articles is edited unless it presents the possibility of legal liability or complex original reporting, and not one of my articles in the last fifteen years — published with dozens of major media outlets around the world — has ever been retracted or even had appended to it a serious correction.

This article should never have been subject to the whims and views of editors at all, let alone this heavy-handed attempt to protect Joe Biden.

it's deeply embarrassing that a guy who has called himself a "journalist" for years -- won a pulitzer for his work, even -- has no idea what an editor's role is. he thinks an editor pushing back on any aspect of one of his stories is no different than a publisher interfering in the editorial process. he even thinks a publication declining to run one of his stories without changing a word amounts to "censorship." greenwald has become such a joke that i feel embarrassed -- and honestly kind of depressed -- that i admired him for so long and defended his work for so many years.

Tbf I only skimmed his article because life is short.

His reasoning is so tortured and bizarre - "nobody claimed that a deal had been consummated so the inability to confirm it does not negate the story" or w/e - that its like being trapped in some MC Escher version of journalism where the gravity is always shifting, and the premise for what constitutes a newsworthy idea is always changing to be the opposite of whatever he imagines a critic would say. Engaging with it is just so exhausting. Tbh it reminds me of the frenzied disordered thinking of ppl in manic episodes - "I stayed up all night filling a notebook with reasons why YOU ALL are the ones who need help, not me!"

I just can't imagine why anyone would spend their precious time seriously reading him or Taibbi when there are actual media critics out there doing the actual work instead of whatever cosplay these two are engaged in. J.D. otm, it's honestly depressing.

this very public resignation seems well planned out. GG has probably been looking to break into the crowdfunded newsletter game for some time, and the Intercept has probably been getting annoyed with him for a long time as well. He's been on podcasts for the past couple of months carping about how he got blamed for the Reality Winner debacle when it was really the fault of the editors. Looks like he was just waiting for some pushback so he could dramatically break ties and complete his IDW heel turn.

This dude resigning right now in this way is an even less effective, more inside baseball October surprise than Hunter Biden bullshit itself.