lol fair
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
absolutely need to hear VG's american accent now
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link
YALL CAYNT HANDLE IT
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link
Crosby still more likable than Stills or Nash.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link
Anyway guy’s answering like a hundred Twitter questions a day, who cares
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
teach the Tweeters well
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
I love their music to this day but to a man all 3 are all monstrous assholes in their own magical ways. but i digresstell me more about how van hagar sounds like “decent” journey
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link
Just that song, maybe one or two others. Most of it sounds like crap Journey imo.
― I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link
is Nash bad? never heard much about himhe didn't come off bad in Shakey which is where I learned the most about CSN
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link
I think I mainly don't like him for talking shit abt Crazy Horse, but also always sleeping w/ people's wives
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
He was a steadfast friend for many years to Crosby when nobody else could handle the guy anymore, so I retract. I just think his music is boring.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
The only thing I know about Nash is the Innocent Eyes video starring John Ritter, which is a stone classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwQORT1T6k
― peace, man, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
That might be the most '80s song/video combo ever. It could literally be by anyone/everyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
crosby's so fucking foul this is like eagle scout material in comparison
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
Good piece in the LA Times about the early Pasadena days https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-15/eddie-van-halen-david-lee-roth-pasadena-high-school
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
I live close to that liquor store at Allen and Villa, and walked over last weekend. About a dozen people there, and someone left a Fender Squire (the type that sold for < $100 at Guitar Center) on the sidewalk where Eddie's "Van Halen" was written. Then I walked to the house and there were people there too.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
Great piece. RIP Eddie.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
Finally saw Van Halen at Staples Center in 2007 and it...wasn't amazing, thinking back. Still happy to have seen them in some capacity.
Fast forward to 2017, Metallica at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. They did a brief, "impromptu" cover of Running With The Devil which I found endearing.
― DT, Friday, 16 October 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
my wife and I were visiting LA for a week in spring 15. Driving around listening to shitty LA rock radio, I kept hearing references to Van Halen playing the Sunset Strip… so we figured out that they were to play outside on the strip for the Fallon show the night before we were to go back to NYC. I had never seen any version of the band, so I really felt that we had to see this…my wife does not in fact like VH; she would have been psyched were it GnR or Poison or the Crue…but she was game. A fancy showrunner buddy we were visiting the night before called his pal at the Fallon show to get us some, ahem, elite access, which amounted to showing up to a tent a few blacks away three hours before VH was to hit; we were eventually herded with about 50 not important enough people some 200 yards from the stage, behind hundreds of people who had been waiting in line all day. Frankie Banali was waiting among us, so was Scott Ian, but he was spirited away, maybe to where someone like Dave Grohl would be, on a roof in an expensive chair getting a foot massage.
No beer, no refreshment, no nothing to take the edge off. VH didn't start playing when they were sposed to, so we had to be "entertained" by this bald warm-up guy who shouted like Kinison… it was very trying. 1 and half hour late, they hit the stage. And so this was the infamous incident in which DLR did a sword dance while the band was gearing up "panama," hit himself on the nose. started bleeding and abandoned ship during the solo, leaving the band to pedal around the "runnin' a little hot tonight" breakdown, Eddie skreeing and skrawing, for 10 minutes…
Then Roth returns and they start the song over…this destroyed any momentum for me, and they played like the state fair Roth era set. With "Ain't Talkin" launching, I said "fuck this," my wife said "and how," and we went to Chateau Marmont to meet up with Fact checkin' Cuz.
― veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib3nuHsiG_Y
― veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
A+ anecdote
― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Friday, 16 October 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
And that's why you don't play with swords.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
Man, I always forget that DLR is practically covered with tattoos.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
the kimmel show, goddamnmit…
― veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
DLR looks like a younger Stephen Miller.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Friday, 16 October 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link
With the help of George Lopez, Sammy and Eddie were able to reconcile:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/george-lopez-sammy-hagar-eddie-van-halen/
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
I don't think this gets said enough, but Eddie is a trip on headphones.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
Also: The secret genius of "I'll Wait" is that it's VH doing their take on "The Model".
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
I'll Wait is so good. They had the sense to leave a lot of space, that eerie synth sound and the big booming drums, way different that how most big rock acts tried to embrace new wave
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
really excited about this. I do a music podcast and Greg Renoff (Van Halen Rising author) gave us 2 hours of his time. so many cool tidbits on the band and its history, great guy
Did you know: Eddie Van Halen’s Eruption, the searing solo heard ‘round the world, almost didn’t make the album. @gregrenoff joins @matthelgeson and @nintendufus for a new Van Halen episode of CrossFade!https://t.co/RrDA2l5naw pic.twitter.com/WNxb7AbmIM— MinnMax (@MinnMaxShow) October 23, 2020
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
i only saw Eddie Van Halen once, at Neil Young’s Bridge Benefit show in like 92 or 93? It was the end of the night and Simon & Garfunkel were doing “sound of silence”... Eddie stumbles out from backstage and (drunkenly?) attempts to accompany them on guitar. it was ridiculous and I was just happy he was there.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
anybody else at that show?
did he add a tapping solo over it?
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link
Lol at the image of EVH interjecting a full Eruption style solo, divebombs and all, into the middle of SOS
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
Wow. It's almost a shreds video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0y3o3zXFBA
― peace, man, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
haha half of that solo isn't even in key
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
Ha, that's an infamous mess.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
shades of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkV5XqEd2Do
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
“Special plans!”
― calstars, Sunday, 1 November 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
Stephen Thomas Erlewine's reflections on EVH and the band through all its incarnations may be the best yet I've read:
https://sterlewine.substack.com/p/eddie-van-halen-happy-trails
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link
I've heard "Hot for Teacher" a few times on the radio recently, turned it up and noticed a few things with the drums I'd never really thought about before. At first I was convinced there was more overdubbing throughout the whole thing, a la the intro, and maybe there was, but then I came across this isolated track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbanpC_K62M
And a commenter made this, er, comment:
The 1st part of the intro is played on a Simmons pad with sticks then you hear the kick drums come in underneath. Everybody thinks the 1st part is his feet but that's actually his hands on a Simmons pad. Then the bass drums come in which are also Simmons pads. 1984 was Simmons pads with a ludwig super phonic snare drum and Roto-toms along with Paiste symbols. No actual real wood drums were used in the 1984 recording. I actually have very rare pictures of 5150 studio when that album was recorded, the Simmons pads were red.
I knew about the Simmons pads, but I didn't realize it was sort of an all-artificial material set, which maybe explains why the whole thing sounds so uncanny valley sci-fi.
One thing I haven't figured out (it's also mentioned in passing in those comments) is the occasional stick-click. It happens two or three times, but I can't tell if Alex is doing it on purpose for effect, doing it on purpose to help everyone's timing (a la Bonham in "Black Dog") or messing up. The last seems the least likely answer, since they would have just done another take, but I'm not sure which of the first two I'm going with.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 November 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
You can see the set in the background here:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/b1/58/e8b1587b73c8f1995332e25eba84a01a.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 November 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
that intro makes me think of Bow Wow Wow
― Josefa, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
Good thread on Simmons :http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/albums-where-drummers-use-simmons-drums-electronic-drums.478617/
― calstars, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
it can't be his hands at the start on the pads, b/c there's also a tom pattern he does about :12 seconds in, and he obviously does that w/hands
interesting follow up to that comment tho
Ted Templeman said in his autobiography that the first few seconds are actually a recording of the exhaust from Eddie's Laborghini. Donn Landee (the engineer) played with it until it blended with the start of Alex's drums.
― a (waterface), Monday, 9 November 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
exhaust from Eddie's Laborghini.
No way this is accurate. This sounds like the conflation/confusion of several stories, but closest to the revving in "Panama."
Also:
It's overdubbed, that much everyone agrees on.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
Like, the bulk of the song is fast/exhausting enough, but it's telling that afaict he never did the full intro live. There are, of course, all sorts of mutant drummers now that have figured out ways to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GXshVjEVU8
And there's a similar callback here (which is insane, but Meshuggah, you know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
ah my bad i thought you were stating there were no overdubs
― a (waterface), Monday, 9 November 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link