Post a controversial music opinion

This is a still-developing opinion that I really have no right to be stating with any confidence, but:

D.I.T.C. production is ao classically, Platonically '90s NYC boom-bap that it's actually kind of dull.

listen, columbo. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC3kUzOP8v4

sry, this isn't the thread for proselytizing.

my controversial thoughts for the day:

i'm with croz; evh was meh. i'll go one further and say that his band was responsible for influencing a generation of terrible music. kind of like the shitty velvet underground. evh not solely responsible for that, but i stand by it regardless.

and also man i hate d'angelo. people always talk about the beatles or vu being overrated and i'm over here all like, "ya but brown sugar is fucken boring and black messiah is the equivalent of a dialtone — no, a dialtone is less monotone than that flat tire of an album." voodoo was decent, but overall: dud.

I feel like use of the word "heteronormative" and being in possession of a college degree do not function as diametric opposites in the way the speaker wishes them to

searched up out of curiosity of the provenance of that quote aaannnnnnnnd. . . it's from reddit, because of course it is.

JRN....buddy why you trying to hurt me?

his band was responsible for influencing a generation of terrible music

you could say this about almost every popular musical act of the past 75 years

My controversial opinion on this is that the VU have inspired many more boring bands than Van Halen ever did

my controversial opinion is that bands are boring.

JRN....buddy why you trying to hurt me?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, October 14, 2020 6:12 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I could be totally off-base. But earlier I was listening to Cuban Linx (which, to be fair, I have listened to a lot before), the first Big L album, and the first Showbiz & AG album, and compared to RZA, the D.I.T.C. stuff just sounded so workmanlike.

my controversial opinion is that bands are boring.

Here you go:

Bands vs. Solo Artists

xpost - well sure RZA was very distinctive and not really anyone I would pick as being indicative of pure boom nap as opposed to Diamond D, Da Beatminerz, Premo etc

but man the first Big L and esp Runaway Slave are just total classic

they aren't maybe as creative as RZA but to me they bang more and are funkier

boom nap

BUCKWILD THE BEST NYC HIPHOP PRODUCER 1995-1998

don't even say dj premier or rza or whatever. quality over quantity all day, everyday, any day.

how's that for a controversial opinion?!

Napcore: The War on Drugs

doesn’t read as a diss to me. Naps are the best.

Scritti Politti would have been much better if Green had sang more in his natural register and used less of that cloying wheedling syrupy thing he was so fond of.

Agree. It's not so much that he changes register (goes from chest voice to falsetto), but between the Early singles and Cupid and Psyche (I haven't heard the first album), he adopted this purring tone that I wish he would change up occasionally.

classic nonsense in the finest traditions of this stupid thread

The best Kiss song was "The Oath", off that absurd rock opera album they did.

ha i've never actually listened to music from the elder maybe i should

Highly agree with the acoustic vs. electric blues position someone posted upthread. I just cannot summon any enthusiasm for electric blues, shit literally makes me sleepy.

I was disappointed by the elder, it really is some bullshit

Table do you not enjoy e.g. John Lee Hooker or Mississippi Fred McDowell when plugged in?

Try Big Mama Thornton with the Muddy Waters Band or Howlin Wolf’s rocking chair album. If those don’t work maybe electric blues isn’t your thing.

I guess here's what it is: I don't find it remarkable. It's not bad, but I find myself wondering how people can be obsessed with the genre.

I have some Muddy Waters records and CDs, and McDowell or two. I just don't come back to them often!

My own tolerance for a lot of call-and-response electric blues is super low, I don't really listen to Muddy Waters or BB King records, much as I obv respect them...I think my tastebuds for that was burnt out by the best and worst rock and roll.

But I will go through phases of listening for hours on end to hypnotic repetitive electric shit like this suspecting all other music is maybe kind of stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URVb-qoMr7o

I didn't think I enjoyed electric blues after listening to several Muddy Waters albums and compilations, but hearing Howlin' Wolf's first two records really made me sit up and take notice.

I will say that I might be exaggerating. I can listen to RL Burnside forever, for example, and have affection for other Hill Country blues artists. Something about the pulse of the music makes it infinitely more listenable to me.

there’s lots of good music in every “genre”

I don't really get much from Muddy Waters other than his late '60s and "comeback" albums, but Howlin' Wolf is amazing. He's legitimately terrifying. And seeing Junior Kimbrough live in 1996 (opening for Iggy Pop) was incredible. It was like a single 45-minute song.

I love the electric blues I've heard and really, really, really need to start listening to more. i've only heard a few albums in full.

I got Howlin Wolf albs, BB King's live album, Robert Johnson (ok that's acoustic blues)...

is there like a seminal "everybody has it" blues album or even better, a "this is a favorite of mine and maybe not every blues' heads" album?

You should check out Buddy Guy's Complete Chess Studio Recordings. It's only a 2CD set, and he did a lot more stuff after that that was more commercially successful (especially on the Vanguard label), but some of it's amazing. Try the long version of "Stone Crazy," "My Time After Awhile," "When My Left Eye Jumps" and "Leave My Girl Alone" and see what you think.

I also really like The Definitive Albert King, another 2CD set that's a great starting point for King, who was an amazing guitar player.

heh i was just eyeing some Albert King. good call!

I'll never forget seeing Buddy Guy open for Tom Petty in 2010 and watching the dude in front of me type "who is Buddy Guy" into his phone. I hope he got an answer that made him happy. The first Guy record I bought - this budget compilation - about took the top of my head off in the ninth grade.

electric blues that is essential to me:

jimmy reed — i'm jimmy reed (or any collection of the mid- / late-'50s stuff on vee jay)
jimmy rogers — chicago bound (or any collection of the early '50s stuff on chess records)
magic sam — west side soul
junior kimbrough — all night long

Thank you for all these great recs

Thx budo, I too have been meaning to dig into the stuff.

Seems like there's a really good 2017 collection of all of Jimmy Reed's Vee-Jay singles that can be had cheap enough. Gonna pick that up. Listening on Spotify and I really like the way his voice is recorded. It has that thing like David Bowie's voice on "Heroes," like he's shouting at you from across the room.

born under a bad sign is an awesome album

(Re Albert king)

I thing peak period Muddy is ill served by available recordings. It seems that his work that crossed over to the folkie market is what sold, but it feels a bit mannered compared to the few recordings that exist of his regular band really cutting loose.

sorry that should be

junior kimbrough — first recordings

xp happy to share !!

listening to Albert King's Born Under a Bad Sign, and yessssss, this is the shit

btw was there anybody else whose first experience with the song "Born Under a Bad Sign" was Homer Simpson on The Simpsons Sing the Blues

Thanks for the Junior Kimborough 'First Recordings' recommendation. Goddamn. This sort of humming, pulsing blues is very much my thing. Sounds close to tishoumaren stuff in places.

*raises hand* xp

Haha, I didn't know about that. I knew it from Cream's Strange Brew best-of comp in Grade 8 or so.

Little Walter is a guy I recently got hip to and man he's raw as hell, Boss Blues Harmonica comp