best Fall album for starters

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I'm old, so when I say 'playlist' I mean 'I cherry-picked these tracks and created my own local MP3 compilation'. I edited a few tracks that went on way too long, too. Here's the tracklisting:

Best Of The 21st Century (6 hours long!)

Cyber Insekt / Two Librans / W.B. / Sons Of Temperance / Dr. Bucks' Letter / Way Round / Ketamine Sun (extract) / Hands Up Billy - The Unutterable
Jim's The Fall / Bourgeois Town / My Ex-Classmates Kids / Reprise: Jane - Prof. Mick - Ey Bastardo - Are You Are Missing Winner
Susan Vs Youthclub - single
Green Eyed Loco-Man / Theme From Sparta F.C. #2 / Contraflow (Country On The Click version) / Open The Boxtosis #2 / The Past (Country On The Click version) / (We Are) Mod Mock Goth / Proteinprotection - The Real New Fall LP
Blindness (version) - Interim
I Wake Up In The City - 2G+2
Pacifying Joint / What About Us? / Assume / I Can Hear The Grass Grow / Bo Demmick / Youwanner / Clasp Hands / Trust In Me - Fall Heads Roll
Reformation! / Fall Sound / My Door Is Never / Das Boat (edit) / Systematic Abuse - Reformation Post-TLC
Alton Towers / Wolf Kidult Man / 50 Year Old Man (edit) / I've Been Duped / Can Can Summer / Tommy Shooter / Senior Twilight Stock Replacer - Imperial Wax Solvent
O.F.Y.C. Showcase / Bury Pts. 1+3 / Hot Cake / Slippy Floor (edit) / Chino - Your Future Our Clutter
Taking Off / Nate Will Not Return / Greenway / I've Seen Them Come / Age Of Chang - Ersatz GB
Sir William Wray / Hittite Man / Victrola Time - Re-Mit
Mister Rode - The Remainderer
Dedication Not Medication (LP version) / Auto Chip 2014-2016 / Quit iPhone - Sub-Lingual Tablet
Wise Ol' Man (edit) / All Leave Cancelled - Wise Ol' Man
Fol De Rol / Brillo De Facto / O! Zztrrk Man / Groundsboy - New Facts Emerge

And these MES guest appearances:
Not Clean - Ghostigital
Fledermaus Can't Get It / The Rhinohead / Family Feud / Duckrog / Chicken Yiamas / That Sound Wiped / Dearest Friends - von Sudenfed
Real Good Time Together / Mettle Claw - MES & Ed Blarney
Blow Up Muscles - MES
Molocular Meditation / VS Cancelled - MES & Jan St. Wener

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

missing "Loadstones" but lots of great stuff in there!

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Interesting article in Record Collector (Luke Haines) suggesting that "Your future our clutter" was the last one where Mark sounded like himself, and "Ersatz" had a drastically different voice, possibly because illness. Being as how YFOC was the last fall album I got, I'll have to use your picks to catch up with.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 October 2020 08:44 (three years ago) link

Gerald’s selection is missing OFYC’s most breathtaking track! But excellent work otherwise

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

Great work even though you've missed out loads of my faves etc grumble ;)

Don't sleep on the Imperial Wax (the band) album btw. I think it's their second best behind OFYC, and I LIKE latter-day Fall

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Auto Chip 2014-2016 is miraculous though yeah. I think Smith is a big part of that one though! HOW BAD ARE ENGLISH MUSICIANS!

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

My journey started with this, which I loved and stewed over for a few months:

https://img.discogs.com/EOwNbN0eeT2dyA_Z045PP7INobo=/fit-in/543x544/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-617685-1193743949.jpeg.jpg

Then, I just dove into a deep end with this, thanks to a well-timed Borders gift card blessing:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Completepeelsessions.jpg

Only then did I start picking up reissues of the older stuff and keeping up with the then current albums as they came out.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

tough to go wrong with those at your first two, tbh

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

*as* your first two

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

I mean, it worked! Turned me into a huge fan.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

Oh the Peel box is absolutely epic, but I always figured it was overdose for a new fan. The two that got me into the fold were "Palace Of Swords Reversed" (still one of my all-time favorite compilations) and "A-Sides 84-89".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

My first was 458489 A-Sides, which I immediately liked, but I don’t think I truly “got” it until I heard Grotesque.

spastic heritage, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

"Words of Expectation" on the first disc in the Peel Set is my very favorite thing in the world

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

discovered the fall in 89 with bend sinister when i found it on sale at woolworths. quickly acquired all of the beggars banquet albums as they were easily available, then it was palace of swords reversed that introduced me to the early fall stuff.

visiting, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

mine was hearing "The Man Whose Head Expanded" on the radio around time of release, first record I heard/got was Wonderful & Frightening World

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

wonderful & frightening world was for the longest time my least liked album... i had the cassette version with tons of extra tracks and it was just too much to take! now it's my favorite.

visiting, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

yep, I love that tape version

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

Loved the b-sides collection . some weird shit.
first saw them around Xmas 83 then several times over the next couple of years. Probably last in Belfast in like 95.

LOve that Dragnet, Hex Enduction era and a little later. Not really investigated their later years overmuch.

The BBC history documentary was quite good too.

Stevolende, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

i started with Grotesque and it worked, had everything in short order afterwards

rip van wanko, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

I'd heard "Bingo Master" on the Rhino DiY Uk Punk II comp in the mid-'90s and the way MES's vox didn't quite sit on the beat unnerved me a bit. Nonetheless in 2000, when Early Years 77-79 was reissued, I decided to take the plunge and found I liked this slightly off-center approach, with the dinky electric piano and this guy who sounded kind of punk but seemed to put himself somewhere above it, and I wanted more. A year as a student (MES be not proud) in England then made it possible to track down most of the studio albums, where the real catalyst for my fandom was 458489 A-Sides.

For me one of the magical things about a lot of Fall albums (Hex, Frenz, Unutterable, and Reformation were examples) was how they would be opaque at first, still baffling on the second listen, and then would suddenly click on the third. Some were more immediate (Infotainment, Marshall Suite, Dragnet), a few never quite got there (Kurious Oranj, Middle Class Revolt) and one seemed like a dud but after several listens over a few years eventually became a lower-tier favorite (Cerebral Caustic).

I'm not sure the post-YFOC stuff has that thing there that takes extra listens to "get," though I quite like a couple of these (Re-Mit is a bit skimpy but fun, SLT has the best overall quality of the Cherry Red albums).

I think if I were advising a newcomer who was actually interested in physical product (do these exist?), you could do a lot worse than Cherry Red's singles box, despite its somewhat dubious logic in terms of B-side selection — you could choose the A-sides only option. The first disc of both comps, from "Bingo Master" through "Cruiser's Creek," makes about as good a case for the greatness of The Fall as any single disc I've heard.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Cassette version of wonderful and frightening was my intro to the fall as well
True it’s an enormous amount of music but you only had to listen to one side at a time

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 October 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link


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