Wolfgang Voigt's GAS Project: the Poll

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(Those are my two favorite Gas albums, so kudos to your baby on her discerning taste)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Hahaha thanks. I’ve played all sort of music and so far it seems those are her favorite albums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

definitely wonderwall

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

<3 to your baby, Moka!

mh, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

That's great Moka, many congrats! <3

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 15 October 2020 07:18 (three years ago) link

Is there a thread on ILM about which albums or music ilxors have found to relax their babies? I’d love to try some options.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, October 14, 2020 bookmarkflaglink

You wanna know which album didn't work at all, with either of my kids? Raymond Fucking Scott's Soothing Sounds for Baby.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

did raymond scott ever have children? because i bet they're fucked up because of his music

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

my daughter went through a brief Pop phase, but as she got older it started to creep her out. Recently, she loves Marconi Union’s “Weightless”, which imo owes a bit to Pop stylistically.

beard papa, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

Thank you mh and LBI!

I had completely forgotten about that Raymond Scott album but yeah I would never play that one. Too sharp sounding, it’s hilariously wrong it’s described as soothing.

Speaking of Raymond Scott, I was listening earlier a spotify playlist called MoogTube and she did not seem to enjoy the Raymond Scott track in there (Portofino 2) which I ended up skipping but she relaxed to Chrome Country by Oneohtrix and to Isao Tomita’s Clair de Lune. The later made me particularly glad because I adore Clair de Lune in all its forms.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 October 2020 07:20 (three years ago) link

naw cute thread updates :)

nxd, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

I noticed from the rolling reissues thread that Kompakt has reissued Zauberberg, Königsforst, and Pop as individual CDs, but the first album is again missing, like it was missing from that box set a few years ago. Seems like Voigt has truly decided to excise it from the Gas canon. :(

Tuomas, Friday, 29 January 2021 07:23 (three years ago) link

And here's how the reissues of Zauberberg and Königsforst are described on the Kompakt site:

CLASSIC Wolfgang Voigt production from 1997 reissued via Kompakt! 'Zauberberg' laid the foundations for the GAS sound - a noxious blend of dragging orchestral arrangement with the weight of dread-heavy dub.
Following the 1997 release of ZAUBERBERG, Wolfgang Voigt’s ambient GAS project returned with KÖNIGSFORST, a full length that has stood the test of time as a template for introducing fundamentals of 90’s techno into the principles of contemporary electronic music.
If someone read only those descriptions and didn't check some other sources, I'm sure they would think these are the first and second Gas album, not the second and third.

Tuomas, Friday, 29 January 2021 07:35 (three years ago) link

I noticed that. A real shame. Glad I have the Mille Plateaux cd.

brimstead, Friday, 29 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

xp

brimstead, Friday, 29 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

Wolfgang Voigt just released a new GAS album on @Kompakt https://t.co/bKQsxt4o14

— Resident Advisor (@residentadvisor) December 3, 2021

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

The new one is more of the same (track 8 even samples Pop 1) but it's always great to visit the psychedelic techno forest.

J. Sam, Saturday, 4 December 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

i'm still trying to figure it out. it's new. at first glance, it seems like a "best of" for new gas listeners. but yes, we know this territory very well

skull. kneel. kneel. kneel. kneel. (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 December 2021 07:35 (two years ago) link

really enjoyed diving into this
never really returned to rausch but this i much prefer

nxd, Monday, 6 December 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

This is lovely except some of the track transitions really fuck up the ongoing flow

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 6 December 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

They released a single track version with the fadeouts removed as well.

zacata, Monday, 6 December 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link

As far as I can see the streaming versions on apple and Spotify have the gaps, which are really detrimental. Is the vinyl like this too?

I am using your worlds, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

Wow, what is the point of those fadeouts? And then the following track starts so abruptly. I was going to get the CD but if it's like that I'll do a bandcamp download instead.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 04:51 (two years ago) link

just listened to this, and the last two paragraphs of the pitchfork are 10000000000% otm for me:

There’s one development, though, that has already made Der Lange Marsch the most divisive GAS album: the high-pitched beep on every other beat. Some listeners don’t notice it, others seem able to tune it out, and for many, it’s an impassable barrier to entry. Voigt used a similar frequency on Rausch, but only in short intervals. Here, it literally never lets up except during the brief bits at the beginning and end with no drums. Once you realize you’re going to have to learn to live with that beat, the album starts to earn its title: The Long March.

It seems like an odd artistic choice to throw such a jarring and potentially alienating sound over your career-spanning retrospective, especially considering that this is otherwise the sunniest and most euphonious of the three GAS albums Voigt has released since bringing the project back from hiatus in 2017. Voigt suffers from tinnitus, and it’s possible that he’s asking the listener to empathize with his condition. But is putting a beep over an otherwise perfectly enjoyable album the right way to go about it? If there’s a new GAS album to look forward to, it’s a fan edit that cuts that frequency right out.

fucking bizarre

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

what a fucking bummer, holy shit. i could do a slight EQ "fix" myself to dampen that frequency and the ones right around it, but i know it would make the rest of the mix worse. shit, man.

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

somewhere not faraway, just beyond the edge of the forest, where the thick darkness of the trees gives way to the dull light of a new grey dawn, a garbage truck is reversing eternally

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

if only the beep were at the reversing garbage truck level. it is higher, like very high. i really do feel like i got to have tinnutus for a while. thanks GAS!

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

i actually don't mind the noise, though it is a curious choice. maybe there should be some element of discomfort though if you're trying to communicate latent anxiety and dread?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

sort of a reaction to the music being used purely for relaxation?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

a niggling contrast to the sumptuousness of the rest of it

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

maybe there should be some element of discomfort though if you're trying to communicate latent anxiety and dread?

yeah, i do understand this angle. have to say, though, one of the things i loved about all of his other albums is his ability to communicate those same things by other means, using mild discordance and strange overtones and resonances going in and out of line. it's very easy to signal anxiety, i think -- just put an alarm clock going off through your album -- but it's so much more rewarding to do it subtle ways

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

ha yes an alarm clock. think you're gonna fall asleep to my music huh suckers?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

but yeah, i do think the annoyance of it would vary highly from listener to listener. to me, it puts it in the same category as labradford's Mi Media Naranja, which is probably a beautiful listen but features an insanely boosted high frequency, and they play the triangle a LOT so

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

never noticed that about mi media... actually, so yeah we may have different tolerances here. i am a bit old and deaf though

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

I made myself a version with the offending frequency much reduced (10436hz at -18db) I used a really sharp notch filter to not monkey around with the surrounding frequencies too much, happy to share if anyone wants it.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

yes plz

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

this sounds like something that would be absolute torture to listen to

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

relieved to see others were bothered by the tone and i'm not nuts, had to turn it off almost immediately, really disappointing. i'm also interested in the maresn3st edit

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

never noticed that about mi media

yeah, it starts suddenly at about 55 seconds into the first track ("S")

and about 3 minutes into the third track "WR". i don't remember which one on the back half of the album, but i remember playing side B of the record and thinking "goddamn it AGAIN?!" so i know it's somewhere on that side too

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

co-sign on maresn3st edit

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

Pop me an email at n@k@ginc@psuleto✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧ (w/out google-proofing)

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

Oh bum, that didn't go well apologies, n a k a g i n c a p s u l e t o w e r @ g m a i l . c o m

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Have only listened to this on shitty speakers and and didn't notice the tone at all. Am I very aware of the high-pitched frequency on the Labradford album though and never found it offensive so perhaps I'll be OK.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Side issue but I am terrified of the implications of hearing vs not hearing certain sounds and frequencies. I remember being with my old man around Christmas time and pointing out the piped silver of a robin singing and being distraught that he simply couldn't pick it up. He shrugged it off so I guess there is that.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah bill oddie has talked about his sadness at not being able to hear the calls of certain birds any longer. The GAS bleep did make me think of the alarm calls that blackbirds make in the hedgerows round here as night comes in

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

I can't hear the offending tone am I losing it

Qamon (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

I am become bill oddie

Qamon (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

As someone with tinnitus and some hearing loss in my right ear - you get used to it, the alternative is a deep dark depression, staring mortality and fragility in the face directly, and its resulting, unrelenting anxiety. Basically stopped going to concerts and listening or writing music for a year when it first became "permanent". Copium is a pretty powerful drug and one that probably saved my life.

That said, that high pitch ringing (which I can clearly hear) is dreadful and I can't listen to this new one.

octobeard, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

I have tinnitus / hearing loss and cannot hear the high-pitched tones on this album at all.

beard papa, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

I first listened on shitty laptop speakers and did t notice it. I’m afraid now that you all have pointed it out that when I give it a proper listen I’m primed to hear only that. Kind of like I can’t not hear “smoke pot smoke pot everybody smoke pot” in I Am The Walrus ever since a fundamentalist preacher told my school class to listen for it nearly 40 years ago.

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

yeah, those of you who can't hear it, or who it doesn't bother - i kind of want that! i feel a little worried that it DOES bother me, given my many years playing drums in small concrete rooms

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link


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