I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS

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It's a shame Bob couldn't be in the band through Pleased to Meet Me (and obv it's known he wasn't super engaged during the Tim sessions) they aren't the Mats as much without him, something special went out of it

That story where he gets sober for a little while and Paul tells him "drink or get off my stage" is one of the saddest, cruelest things I've ever heard

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

I almost went to reread that last night but couldn't

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

is "Sixteen Blue" also a reference to football? ("Blue 16!" sounds like something a quarterback would yell, just before saying "HUT!")

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

Just looked at the Sorry, Ma liner notes here. Forgot that Paul played the second lead on "Johnny's Gonna Die." It's good.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

(Alway's feel a little weird posting after the POLL is over)

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Thank you Nag3 for your hard work, tabulation and excellent art selections! This thread brought me a lot of joy. My ballot:

Category 'A'

I Will Dare
Bastards Of Young
Alex Chilton
Left Of The Dial
Takin' A Ride
Color Me Impressed
Can't Hardly Wait
Take Me Down To The Hospital
Unsatisfied
The Ledge
Answering Machine
Favorite Thing
Hold My Life
Valentine
Never Mind
We're Comin' Out
Sixteen Blue
Here Comes A Regular
I'll Be You
Kiss Me On The Bus
Achin' To Be
We'll Inherit The Earth
Talent Show
Little Mascara
Portland
Merry Go Round
Sadly Beautiful
Shiftless When Idle
Within Your Reach
Anywhere's Better Than Here

Category 'B'

World Class Fad
Not A Moment Too Soon
Never Aim To Please
High Time
Friday Night Is Killing Me
Lookin' Out Forever
Turn It Up
Best Thing That Never Happened
Love Untold
We May Be The Ones
Got You Down
Silent Film Star
Without A View
No Place For You
Tiny Pieces
Waiting For Somebody
Nothing
MamaDaddyDid
Not This Time
Dsylexic Heart

Category C (Hootenany in 'E')

Let It Be
Hootenany
Tim
Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash
Pleased To Meet Me

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Paul = Pete
Tommy = Roger
Chris = John
Bob = Keith

veronica moser, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

I have just been thinking about the last line the past few days! How I love the playing but the fun-loving antics are ultimately tiresome and depressing.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

First one works too. Talented guys, a bit full of themselves. Second one too, dudes who were born to rock. And then Chris/John works as talented guys in the background behind the other showboats.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

paul = gene
tommy = paul
chris = um, criss
bob = ace

(i have not fact-checked this)

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

paul = jimmy
tommy = robert
chris = JPJ
bob = bonzo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

(i have not fact-checked this)

― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, October 14, 2020 3:01 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

post very much out of character!

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

lol

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

Ahem

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Although now I think I probably would switch Chris and Tommy.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Paul = Axl
Tommy = Tommy

sorry thats as far as my joke goes i’ll see myself out

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

tommy: charismatic showman; Chris, weirdo introvert, eccentric songsmith in the shadow of celebrated big shot; only way Tommy = John is if Tommy is the best musician in the band as that is conventionally understood, which I guess is right…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

Yes to the latter.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

Is there any argument with that?

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

Remember when Spin gave a handful of staffers plane tickets to random places in search of the "soul of rock and roll" or something? First, man, remember when they could just do that, give random plane tickets to people to go random places, let alone have the budget to do so? But second, they came to the conclusion that Paul Westerberg was it and sure, it's a silly, meaningless distinction that he probably made fun of in the cover story, but if it was going to be anyone ...
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz4tiv1QMW1qeetdyo1_1280.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

Just a couple months before Nevermind...

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

I hope it's not the chalet
Just a waste of time

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

Never knew what the lyric was, still don't

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

#colorMeObsessed because I finally figured out that the problem I have with “Valentine” (and to a lesser extent the other mediocre trax on PTMM) comes down to the following elements:
1. PTMM was recorded digitally when the converters were crappier than they are now. Had it been recorded to tape the drums would not have that brittleness which is working to the album’s detriment throughout.
2. There’s a BOB STINSON-sized hole where a personality-forward guitar part should be.
Because, he’ll, I was just singing the lyric to “Valentine” just now while doing the dishes. Sound and personality matter, big time, imho of course.

rattle, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

Love you, spellcheck :)

rattle, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

Just a couple months before Nevermind...

and about a year after all shook down, which should have given them second thoughts about coming to that particular conclusion.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

There’s a BOB STINSON-sized hole

that's pretty much the story of the replacements' last five or so years as a band :(

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

Paul = Pete
Tommy = Roger
Chris = John
Bob = Keith


Checks out, mostly. Pete’s frustration with Keith’s drinking, while himself drinking a bottle of vodka a day, mirrors Paul/Bob. Chris as Entwistle works in terms of both being the secret weapon in the band, and both were visual artists. But Entwistle never stopped drinking, and essentially smoked, drank, and snorted himself to an early grave.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

(Always feel a little weird posting after the POLL is over)

Nah, 1000 posts or no credibility. Almost there!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

we’re good until they start sweeping up the bottles

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

If you all just grab your zings and go home there won't be any hassle.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

great poll, thanks for running this Nag

my ballot:
Unsatisfied
Alex Chilton
Left Of The Dial
I Will Dare
Never Mind
Answering Machine
Androgynous
Favorite Thing
Skyway
Here Comes A Regular
Hold My Life
Bastards Of Young
Can't Hardly Wait
Color Me Impressed
I'll Be You
Little Mascara
We're Coming Out
I.O.U.
Within Your Reach
Kiss Me On The Bus
Talent Show
Back to Back
Perfectly Lethal
Nowhere Is My Home
Kids Don't Follow
Sixteen Blue
The Ledge
Valentine
Red Red Wine
Nightclub Jitters

ufo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

Am I okay to say there's a certain kind of Replacements ballad (or slow song, at least) I've never connected with? I voted for "Unsatisfied" and "Within Your Reach" and "Skyway"--those I love. But the following all placed pretty high, and they're all linked for me in a way I'm not really sure how to put into words: "Androgynous," "Here Comes a Regular," "Swingin' Party," "Sixteen Blue."

clemenza, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link

I really can’t tell if that is uncredited producer “Alex Chilton” singing harmony on the title line at the end of “Left of the Dial.”

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

Could be though. There is another harmony voice in there too.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

I probably wrote this on a Replacements thread somewhere: I consider "Alex Chilton" (my #1) a towering masterpiece of self-pity, insofar as Westerberg's mostly writing about himself, the children by the millions who are waiting for him.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

Alex Chilton should have done a song called “Paul Westerberg,” the same way Nick Lowe did Bowi and The Rumour did Max.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link

Reminds of a story I heard about someone asking Alex Chilton what he thought of a cover of one of his songs and him replying “that’s not the way that I would have done it.”

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

xxp

believe Chilton is credited with backing vocals for “Left of the Dial” on the Rhino reissue unless I’m mistaken, so you’re probably right.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

It’s in the Bible, I mean the Bob Mehr book. That’s the one song from the post-CBGB sessions that AC produced.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

That ended up on Tim, I meant to add.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

Alex Chilton should have done a song called “Paul Westerberg,” the same way Nick Lowe did Bowi and The Rumour did Max.

West of the Berg

aphoristical, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

Exactly

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link

Chilton also produced the almost gone-missing “Nowhere Is My Home”/“Nowhere Is Near My Home” as well as one of the “Can’t Hardly Wait” attempts. Not a bad innings.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

Some debate on other borads and sites over who played the solo on “Nowhere Is My Home.”

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

Uh-oh, the image I had for that track featured him alone! People will have been shaking their heads at my cluelessness.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

Incidentally, something I was going to say at the relevant point yesterday: I think PTMM-era versions of "CHW" are easily the best and I'll have none of that "it was perfected years earlier" tomfoolery. My most important criterion in such judgements is the calibre of the instrumental punctuation of the "hurry up! hurry up!" bit. I'm yet to hear an earlier recording that beats that there horn arrangement in those crucial seconds.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

Nobody said it was perfected earlier. It hadn’t been finished as a song. Just that some of us feel there was some energy in the proto-version that seemed to go missing in the, um, final product.

Uh-oh, the image I had for that track featured him alone! People will have been shaking their heads at my cluelessness.

He’s definitely on it. He may just be playing the riff and Paul playing the solo however.

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

Yep. Upping the melodrama for my own emusement. :)

Re CHW: not a response to anything in this particular thread. Just a minority view I've see occasionally w̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶d̶h̶e̶r̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶s̶h̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶a̶l̶l̶

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link


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