It's a shame Bob couldn't be in the band through Pleased to Meet Me (and obv it's known he wasn't super engaged during the Tim sessions) they aren't the Mats as much without him, something special went out of it
That story where he gets sober for a little while and Paul tells him "drink or get off my stage" is one of the saddest, cruelest things I've ever heard
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
I almost went to reread that last night but couldn't
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
is "Sixteen Blue" also a reference to football? ("Blue 16!" sounds like something a quarterback would yell, just before saying "HUT!")
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
Just looked at the Sorry, Ma liner notes here. Forgot that Paul played the second lead on "Johnny's Gonna Die." It's good.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
(Alway's feel a little weird posting after the POLL is over)
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
Thank you Nag3 for your hard work, tabulation and excellent art selections! This thread brought me a lot of joy. My ballot:
Category 'A'
I Will DareBastards Of YoungAlex ChiltonLeft Of The DialTakin' A RideColor Me ImpressedCan't Hardly WaitTake Me Down To The HospitalUnsatisfiedThe LedgeAnswering MachineFavorite ThingHold My LifeValentineNever MindWe're Comin' OutSixteen BlueHere Comes A RegularI'll Be YouKiss Me On The BusAchin' To BeWe'll Inherit The EarthTalent ShowLittle MascaraPortlandMerry Go RoundSadly BeautifulShiftless When IdleWithin Your ReachAnywhere's Better Than Here
Category 'B'
World Class FadNot A Moment Too SoonNever Aim To PleaseHigh TimeFriday Night Is Killing MeLookin' Out ForeverTurn It UpBest Thing That Never HappenedLove UntoldWe May Be The OnesGot You DownSilent Film StarWithout A ViewNo Place For YouTiny PiecesWaiting For SomebodyNothingMamaDaddyDidNot This TimeDsylexic Heart
Category C (Hootenany in 'E')
Let It BeHootenanyTimSorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashPleased To Meet Me
― BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
Paul = PeteTommy = RogerChris = JohnBob = Keith
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
I have just been thinking about the last line the past few days! How I love the playing but the fun-loving antics are ultimately tiresome and depressing.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
First one works too. Talented guys, a bit full of themselves. Second one too, dudes who were born to rock. And then Chris/John works as talented guys in the background behind the other showboats.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
paul = genetommy = paulchris = um, crissbob = ace
(i have not fact-checked this)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
paul = jimmytommy = robertchris = JPJbob = bonzo
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, October 14, 2020 3:01 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
post very much out of character!
― covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
lol
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
Ahem
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link
Although now I think I probably would switch Chris and Tommy.
Paul = AxlTommy = Tommysorry thats as far as my joke goes i’ll see myself out
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
tommy: charismatic showman; Chris, weirdo introvert, eccentric songsmith in the shadow of celebrated big shot; only way Tommy = John is if Tommy is the best musician in the band as that is conventionally understood, which I guess is right…
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
Yes to the latter.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
Is there any argument with that?
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
Remember when Spin gave a handful of staffers plane tickets to random places in search of the "soul of rock and roll" or something? First, man, remember when they could just do that, give random plane tickets to people to go random places, let alone have the budget to do so? But second, they came to the conclusion that Paul Westerberg was it and sure, it's a silly, meaningless distinction that he probably made fun of in the cover story, but if it was going to be anyone ...https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz4tiv1QMW1qeetdyo1_1280.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Just a couple months before Nevermind...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
I hope it's not the chaletJust a waste of time
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
Never knew what the lyric was, still don't
#colorMeObsessed because I finally figured out that the problem I have with “Valentine” (and to a lesser extent the other mediocre trax on PTMM) comes down to the following elements:1. PTMM was recorded digitally when the converters were crappier than they are now. Had it been recorded to tape the drums would not have that brittleness which is working to the album’s detriment throughout.2. There’s a BOB STINSON-sized hole where a personality-forward guitar part should be.Because, he’ll, I was just singing the lyric to “Valentine” just now while doing the dishes. Sound and personality matter, big time, imho of course.
― rattle, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Love you, spellcheck :)
― rattle, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
and about a year after all shook down, which should have given them second thoughts about coming to that particular conclusion.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
There’s a BOB STINSON-sized hole
that's pretty much the story of the replacements' last five or so years as a band :(
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
(Always feel a little weird posting after the POLL is over)
Nah, 1000 posts or no credibility. Almost there!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
we’re good until they start sweeping up the bottles
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
If you all just grab your zings and go home there won't be any hassle.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link
great poll, thanks for running this Nag
my ballot:UnsatisfiedAlex ChiltonLeft Of The DialI Will DareNever MindAnswering MachineAndrogynousFavorite ThingSkywayHere Comes A RegularHold My LifeBastards Of YoungCan't Hardly WaitColor Me ImpressedI'll Be YouLittle MascaraWe're Coming OutI.O.U.Within Your ReachKiss Me On The BusTalent ShowBack to BackPerfectly LethalNowhere Is My HomeKids Don't FollowSixteen BlueThe LedgeValentineRed Red WineNightclub Jitters
― ufo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
Am I okay to say there's a certain kind of Replacements ballad (or slow song, at least) I've never connected with? I voted for "Unsatisfied" and "Within Your Reach" and "Skyway"--those I love. But the following all placed pretty high, and they're all linked for me in a way I'm not really sure how to put into words: "Androgynous," "Here Comes a Regular," "Swingin' Party," "Sixteen Blue."
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link
I really can’t tell if that is uncredited producer “Alex Chilton” singing harmony on the title line at the end of “Left of the Dial.”
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link
Could be though. There is another harmony voice in there too.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
I probably wrote this on a Replacements thread somewhere: I consider "Alex Chilton" (my #1) a towering masterpiece of self-pity, insofar as Westerberg's mostly writing about himself, the children by the millions who are waiting for him.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
Alex Chilton should have done a song called “Paul Westerberg,” the same way Nick Lowe did Bowi and The Rumour did Max.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link
Reminds of a story I heard about someone asking Alex Chilton what he thought of a cover of one of his songs and him replying “that’s not the way that I would have done it.”
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
xxp
believe Chilton is credited with backing vocals for “Left of the Dial” on the Rhino reissue unless I’m mistaken, so you’re probably right.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
It’s in the Bible, I mean the Bob Mehr book. That’s the one song from the post-CBGB sessions that AC produced.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
That ended up on Tim, I meant to add.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link
West of the Berg
― aphoristical, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
Exactly
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link
Chilton also produced the almost gone-missing “Nowhere Is My Home”/“Nowhere Is Near My Home” as well as one of the “Can’t Hardly Wait” attempts. Not a bad innings.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
Some debate on other borads and sites over who played the solo on “Nowhere Is My Home.”
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
Uh-oh, the image I had for that track featured him alone! People will have been shaking their heads at my cluelessness.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
Incidentally, something I was going to say at the relevant point yesterday: I think PTMM-era versions of "CHW" are easily the best and I'll have none of that "it was perfected years earlier" tomfoolery. My most important criterion in such judgements is the calibre of the instrumental punctuation of the "hurry up! hurry up!" bit. I'm yet to hear an earlier recording that beats that there horn arrangement in those crucial seconds.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
Nobody said it was perfected earlier. It hadn’t been finished as a song. Just that some of us feel there was some energy in the proto-version that seemed to go missing in the, um, final product.
― Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link
Yep. Upping the melodrama for my own emusement. :)
Re CHW: not a response to anything in this particular thread. Just a minority view I've see occasionally w̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶d̶h̶e̶r̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶s̶h̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶a̶l̶l̶
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link