Are you telling me this is AE: SIGN? (Autechre LP 14)

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^^^ I'm reading that as sung by Justin Timberlake

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

The capitalized album title, Brown said, is “an initialization, but we don’t want to tell anybody what it stands for.”

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

I think Brad is on to something

Def! And the quote octobeard pasted really resonates. It will find its place and be 'totally right', maybe just not now, or not as fast, as previous releases.

I held out on listening to this too much, with the vinyl on the way.

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:31 (three years ago) link

These are edited excerpts from a far-ranging two-hour conversation with Autechre.

edited from two hours down to five minutes!

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:43 (three years ago) link

yeah srsly

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

I've felt a vague irritation with myself for not buying the NTS sessions. It wasn't even hideously expensive, was it? I was probably in a bad mood.

Are there links to tracks from the new album? I'm still in a bad mood so only want to buy if there's a chance I will play.

djh, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

It's streamable on https://autechre.warp.net/ now

J. Sam, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

Oh, cool, ta.

djh, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

Here's what I think anyway: https://thequietus.com/articles/29078-autechre-sign-review

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

That was good! It's ironic that Autechre is ultimately one of the easier and more fun acts to write about, imo. (Not that writing about them doesn't take work, as I'm sure your review did!)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

Thanks Josh. I deliberately tried to keep as much 'sounds like a mechanical Jonah tapping out rhythms on the inside of a whale made of silly putty' descriptions to a minimum, as it's way too easy and obvious to do that. Plus much as it's fun to describe these things, everyone seems to hear these things quite differently. Am I the only one who immediately thought 'motorcycle' when 'M4 Lema' came on?

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

(not that the piece doesn't fall into this trap - it's almost impossible not to project strange imagery into these things)

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

Am I the only one who immediately thought 'motorcycle' when 'M4 Lema' came on?

― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:48 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nope!

Great review btw

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

imo elseq and nts are them rocketing through alien spaces, and this record feels like the return to earth, but earth has changed dramatically in the intervening years. it feels like there is an awful lot of longing and yearning in these tracks

I reviewed this for Stereogum, and came to a lot of the same conclusions as Brad.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Great piece!

Tim F, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

cheers Paul and Tim. it means a lot that you guys liked it

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Yes, both of these reviews were great. I like that Phil mentions both Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, because I absolutely hear this now. I'm sure those people influenced Ae from the jump, but on this record those influences seem just as explicit as the electro, hip hop, and musique concrete influences have been on Ae albums past

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Nice piece, dl. I'm interested that what you heard as a motorcycle I heard as them trying repeatedly to boot up their machines - so, basically a hard drive grinding.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Tangerine Dream

It's funny, the first time I listened to the album I absolutely thought it sounded like a soundtrack, or at least more than the group usually does.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

alright this made me laugh

https://i.redd.it/hyiiw4b597t51.jpg

frogbs, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

they do look a bit like grizzled mobsters in their recent photos

octobeard, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

Xps enjoyed your take too unperson, and as I think I mentioned elsewhere, it’s uncanny that so many reviews address the “human” element of their music on this one.

Looking forward to the vinyl hitting my doormat so I can enjoy this with less critical ears

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

Good review DL! And unperson's too, I think Schulze is a good call.

I've a feeling SIGN won't end up being a lot of people's fave AE album. It is a sort of return to the basics, but it's extremely good and lush to ease into right now.

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 October 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link

Yeah good reviews - better than this short & ambivalent one: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/oct/16/autechre-sign-review-warp

It's on spotify now so i can stream it around the house \o/

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 16 October 2020 09:04 (three years ago) link

Typically excellent Philip Sherburne review on Pitchfork today

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

Here's an excerpt of the Japanese bonus track n Cur. Sounds a lot like Gas Königsforst 5 to me:
https://diskunion.net/DU-X1_audio_player.html?id=1008189907&disc=1&track=12

J. Sam, Friday, 16 October 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

that Sherburne review is so good. he's summarised Ae so well in those opening paragraphs

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Also for posterity:

https://i.imgur.com/8F5J1vd.jpg

pomenitul, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

This really seems to be hitting a critical mass, good for them. I do feel like a poser though, they've long been on my list to check out and I'd feel weird starting now because of all of this attention. I watched all the NTS Sessions discourse from afar but that seemed like a lot to start with.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Physical copy arrived in this morning's mail, as promised. I like when preorders actually work as designed. (I remember preordering the last Mastodon album and it came something like 10 days after street date.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

Another excellent piece on SIGN, from a slightly more musicological perspective:

http://5against4.com/2020/10/16/autechre-sign/

pomenitul, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

This really seems to be hitting a critical mass, good for them. I do feel like a poser though, they've long been on my list to check out and I'd feel weird starting now because of all of this attention. I watched all the NTS Sessions discourse from afar but that seemed like a lot to start with.

Start with Tri Repetae.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

start with LP5! ;-)

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

i got my physical copy today too and it's so nice to listen to on vinyl without a screen and a tracklisting in front of me, and without having to use my critical listening brain

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

I started with LP5 and that worked perfectly--to me it's their most even balance of futuristic experimentation and melodic accessibility. But I don't think you can go wrong starting with any of their 90s stuff

J. Sam, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

start with LP5! ;-)

I agree.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

Start with Tri Repetae, then go LP5, and if you like what you hear, move about at will.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

really agree with starting with lp5

tri repetae is the apotheosis of their early sound but it def took me a while to figure that out, lp5 was way more immediate and one of their most beautiful tracks ever is in the opening run

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

My boss was intrigued by Autechre and asked for some select tracks. I put together a playlist, but it was really difficult. How does one put together a short sample of a 30 year+ career like theirs? Those LP5 tracks which once sounded so cold and clinical to me are more like chill hip hop rhythms. What would an uninitiated person think of Cichli? And how do I contextualise the post-Confield material? Have to admit, it wasn't easy at all to come up with anything comprehensive.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

I’d really like to see the tracklist you put together!

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

FWIW this is what I ended up with: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5zFEsaK4t8cbDNM7VrEdWX?si=omrSJr6jSe6NSPyvvBqnRg

Arch Carrier
Cichli
Eutow
Pir
Garbagemx
d-sho qub
Fold4, Wrap5
Maphive6.1
Rae
gr4
6IE.CR
Krib
Slip
M4 Lema
violvoic

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

went for the more pretty/melodic stuff with a few curveballs thrown in.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Perfect opener imo, good set!

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

I started with Tri Repeatae, didn't really like it. felt it was way cold and the super high-pitched tones on "Stud" annoyed the hell out of me. it's still probably my least favorite album of theirs. which I think speaks to how great their catalogue is.

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

Fwiw, one reason I always lean to Tri Repetae as a recommendation is, no surprise, strictly personal, in that after the first two albums and especially them being clumped in with the IDM scene (specifically on those two Artificial Intelligence comps), "Clipper" specifically was something that clicked with me as totally new and mysterious. Made me a fan for life, tbh.

Which is the first Autechre album/track to really embrace that "ball bearings spilling out onto the floor" sound? I can't remember the chronology offhand. Is that LP5?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Chiastic Slide is where they fully formed into the Autechre we know today imo

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

Hmm, just googling around and found this dude, who ... seems to do a pretty good job summing things up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea3FP5NqUqM

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

my impression is Tri Rep gets recommended the most because of "Garbage" on the bonus disc, which is probably the best way to convert the uninitiated (you like that, do you? well here's 30 hours of Autechre music, none of which sounds like this)

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

dl, I like your list but would definitely have included "VI Scose Poise" (first track from Confield) on it; I think it's one of the most beautiful pieces in their catalog.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

Have to admit Tri Repetae too me a while to grow into as well. It's a very textural, granular and tone-free album; so depending on your tolerance for industrial sturm und drang it may or may not float your boat. I listen to it mainly for Leterel and Eutow, with Overand and C/Pach being pleasant surprises.
But it's quite a different album from Amber's pretty ambience.
Chiastic Slide is when they really started sounding like alien music as opposed to 'what humans think alien music sounds like'. 'Rettic AC' as the second track is like a statement of intent. 'Hub' is as far from a 'dance' tune as it gets. And even 'Cichli', for all its melodic wonder, is really a five-limbed thing

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link


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