2020 NBA Bubble Ball Finals: Lakers vs Heat - Who You Got?

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those heat teams would destroy this lakers team... better/younger lebron, bosh in his prime is a good match up on AD, wade, much better role players.

after the first two games davis’ contribution was mostly on defense, he didn’t have a dominant offensive series. the idea that you need 1 player to guard him or you will lose isn’t really borne out by this series to say nothing of the rest of his career. and even with AD on the floor, the heat had a stretch of games putting up offensive ratings thar would’ve rated above the no 1 offense in the league. both those heat and cavs teams had floor stretching bigs the lack of which hurt the heat once the lakers realized they could just leave davis in the paint all game (in game 3 they put him on olynyk and the heat shredded them). lebron and AD are a great pair of players, the current league could not overcome
that, but bron’s previous title teams had legit big 3s and better role players, particularly shooters, than this lakers team.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:43 (seven months ago) link

i think olynk should have played in game 6. and herro should have played even more, when the lakers were packing the paint the heat needed a second ball handler when jimmys drive and kick game got shut down

iirc the heats roster for the 13/14 season was pretty av

micah, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:27 (seven months ago) link

i def feel like this lakers team would get its ass kicked in a 7 game series by either of the three previous lebron title teams

This is true, especially since the other Lebron team would also get a ton of calls

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:30 (seven months ago) link

herro had an awful series sadly... agree w/ you about olynyk. spo prob went w/ too much of bam -- i understand why but he played like butt for most of the series and no olynyk out there allowed davis to sit in the paint for 40 mins per game

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:38 (seven months ago) link

I had a challopeno popper about Duncan Robinson being a better long term piece than Herro, I might dust that off next year

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:42 (seven months ago) link

i mean really there were no adjustments in game 6 that would have covered for butler and the heat expending absolutely everything they had to win game 5.

it's funny to talk about herro as if there is any sort of established baseline for him...he's really young and has had a lot of peaks and valleys in performance already. i don't think we have any idea what he is beyond an intriguing talent who has had a few flashes.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:53 (seven months ago) link

well duncan robinson is 26 and herro is 20

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:03 (seven months ago) link

when you talk about huge beneficiaries of the bubble, robinson and herro go to the top of the list for me as rookies who got to play four playoff series w/o having to ever handle the ball or shoot in front of a road playoff crowd.

that having been said i thought both played above expectations... robinson held up far better than most ppl thought and was basically the second best player for them in the finals which is pretty crazy and explains why they lost but he also had a few huge games and wasn't overwhelmed physically in a series w/ a bunch of grown ass dudes, which was my major concern. herro was a borderline revelation, the stuff he was doing as a ball handler, finishing at the rim, passing out of the pick and roll... we did not see any of that in the regular season. he was having big problems finishing over anyone and then in the bubble was like dropping and 1 mixtape lay ups on anthony davis and jayson tatum. to me the question is how much further he can push it, dan le batard said on zach lowe's pod a little bit ago that the heat think he can be better than devin booker. personally i see him as more of a supercharged lou williams type, a second unit monster who can singlehandedly win games but w/ the added benefit of having a modern killer three point/step back arsenal in his game. there's a pretty decent gap between sixth man of the year and devin booker so we'll see which end he lands closer to

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:10 (seven months ago) link

yeah i mean you are saying things that basically make sense but i just need another season of herro before i'm ready to even suggest what he actually is. has to be one of the most unique rookie seasons ever.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:21 (seven months ago) link

you are saying things that basically make sense

this is the promise i make to this board ever day

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:57 (seven months ago) link

nba talking heads - keep making sense

cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:59 (seven months ago) link


lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:26 (seven months ago) link

i really dont buy any speculation that herro might be a 6th man. he will get starter level contract offers and he will be a starter.

micah, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:41 (seven months ago) link

i just realized that demarcus cousins is gonna get a ring

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:36 (six months ago) link

do they give those to people who have played 0 minutes for the franchise

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:44 (six months ago) link

iirc if youre not on the playoff roster the active players vote whether to give u a share of the playoff bonus/a ring

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:46 (six months ago) link

boogie will almost certainly get the nod, if just to keep AD happy.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:07 (six months ago) link


lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:09 (six months ago) link

i dont think he'll get one.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:47 (six months ago) link

really sad career trajectory for that dude.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:47 (six months ago) link

yeah never really had a chance to establish himself outside the Bad Franchise

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:50 (six months ago) link

we never got to see what he and brow woulda looked like in the playoffs. they were just figuring it out when he blew his achilles.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:51 (six months ago) link

i think he gets one but doesn't wear it out

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:09 (six months ago) link

there should be a one to four asterisks rating on each championship

― lag∞n, Monday, October 12, 2020 1:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

keep coming back to this

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:54 (six months ago) link

It could be like those internet polls where anyone can vote as many times as they like.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:57 (six months ago) link

2011-2016 had minimal asterisks but they've been increasing since

ciderpress, Sunday, 25 October 2020 18:05 (six months ago) link

all human life since the invention of agriculture should have several asterisks

Clay, Sunday, 25 October 2020 20:58 (six months ago) link

(shrugs) yeah, but it was invented independently at several different times in different places, so what can you do?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:01 (six months ago) link

pat riley is such a baby

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:32 (six months ago) link

it was just recently that i heard how riley became head coach of the lakers, what a weird story

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 October 2020 23:37 (six months ago) link

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