I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS

Seeing as I'm still awake I may as well drop one now. I'll finish off the remainder in about 6 hours. Also: too low.

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#19
Kids Don't Follow
from Stink (1982)
Score: 316
Votes: 21 (0)
Youtube: audio track

I had it at #13.

yes!

I'm glad you approve of the way I ranked it.

'I didn't vote, but' is the 'well, actually' of ILM.

this was a top tenner for me, probably my favorite riff they ever put to tape.

yeah I love that song

btw I voted for both "Portland" & "Talent Show" (the latter was my #2 I think?). "Talent Show" is the one of the great openers: a mission statement that this band can't live up to, surprising no one.

Great description! I still haven’t listened to both of them carefully to compare.

"Kids Don't Follow"! i had it around the same spot in my ballot (#21) but it was one my favorite discoveries of this poll (hadn't heard Stink at all until a few weeks ago)

I voted for “The Ledge,” had it at #25. Sometimes worry that it is a little cheesy but something about it sticks to me. It’s a little better done than it could be. Is it related to “Can’t Hardly Wait” somehow?

― She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, October 12, 2020 9:30 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

CHW has a suicide lyric version and someone @ sire (iirc) thought there should only really be one suicide song on an album so they went w the ledge

One of my favorite versions of "Kids Don't Follow," where they impudently mash it up with U2's "I Will Follow":

https://youtu.be/3drH8fr11V0?t=2588

That's the show where Gene Simmons was in the audience, and Alex Chilton too, I think.

"Kids Don't Follow" is classic — otm about the riff — and has maybe the greatest intro of any punk song ever.

I wonder if that Minneapolis Police Dept. officer even knows he was immortalized.

Which part is Dave Pirner again?

haha totally didn't realize the cops were an actual recording, sounds like a parody of a feckless midwestern cop

Hel-l-o-oo

u guys ...hardcore lifeboat maybe got a little out of hand as i just realized this wasn’t on my ballot! ;_;

well its a classic anyway and it *would* have been on my ballot and imma flail dance anyway

Please see campreverb's most recent post itt.

no but...

sigh

You take the lifeboat
It don’t move at all like the deathboat
It’s got rungs to ascend like any other boat
*ducks*

lol

jeez I woke up snarky this am.

truthbomb though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Db6qxWyo0
Slightly relevant

ha, the only cover version i voted for was "another girl, another planet," the original of which is possibly my favorite song of all time.

Yeah, on many days it is mine as well. Ended up not voting for it, partly because The Replacements version is pretty sweet but not an improvement upon the original as "Black Diamond" seems to be.

yeah for whatever reason they really got this dread and longing out of a KISS song

I voted 'Another Girl, Another Planet' as well, it never really left the setlist after 87' or so, it really became an essential track for me.

I googled “Paul Westerberg is an asshole Trouble Boys” and I learned he blew some blow in a fan’s face before I wound up on Dangerous Minds where they excerpt a bit about a Houston show that ended in a riot. Nicest of all though is at the end of the article they have a February’86 Old Grey Whistle performance that I’d never seen of “On The Bus”. Peak Bob Stinson guitar leads.

https://youtu.be/yg9WUm3mYAs

Cool, thanks!

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

Bob’s story is awful. So sad.

So Alex Chilton actually opened for them at that train wreck G&tBs CBGB show which he of course loved, which is why he ended up producing some early versions of Tim (and PTMM) tracks. Would like to hear the version of “Left of the Dial” with him on it, can’t seem to find.

Oh wait, think that is the official version. Not sure I can hear his vocal on there.

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:33 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv a good deal younger than them but still old enough to have grown up in the same MN culture I can't really express the total inability to talk about ones feeling were instilled in us, alongside a drinking culture that basically made that the center of your whole social life from 13/14 on

And I'm still not 100% over those things

Though I didn’t vote for any ASD tracks, I do consider it an admirable gesture of uncommon honesty that Paul allowed it to be such an unrelenting, joyless (to me it is, anyway) affair. In this way I see it as a kind of documentary, their whole career, from obnoxious intoxicated youths raising hell and finally, the sad wake such kind of attitude leads to.
Haven’t read Trouble Boys and won’t until I first get to Little Richard’s and Keith Richardses.

Now, where were we...

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#18
Little Mascara
from Tim (1985)
Score: 405
Votes: 26 (0)
Youtube: audio track

The guitars are so choice.

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:33 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv a good deal younger than them but still old enough to have grown up in the same MN culture I can't really express the total inability to talk about ones feeling were instilled in us, alongside a drinking culture that basically made that the center of your whole social life from 13/14 on

And I'm still not 100% over those things

xpost shades of my own upbringing in rural smalltown Oz, that deeply entrenched “never talk about it” + lots of booze/drug problems makes for rough times

though MN obv has it in a much deeper way, like a much heavier unspoken vein of sheer ~sadness~. extreme weather isolation obv adds its own layer of complexity w Scandi roots etc

anyway i have veered way off track

Little Mascara is my first top ten track to place (plus I had Kids Don’t Follow at #11). Another really empathetic song - I have no desire to read Trouble Boys as I feel like it might kill my fandom dead.

I now see rattle posted the OGWT footage just an hour ago, lol

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#17
Kiss Me on the Bus
from Tim (1985)
Score: 426
Votes: 24 (0)
Youtube: audio track
Youtube: Old Grey Whistle Test appearance

It may have killed my fandom for a while but I eventually got better.

Don’t think it’s totally off track, VG. That was one of the major themes of the book, I think.

XPs obv

In college I thought "on the bus" was a shrewd pun (to buss = to kiss).

Right! Or it could be this

LOL

YES! My #5

Definitely a v important subgenre Paul-wants-to-be-my-boyfriend song