I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS

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didn't vote for it but it's a great cover version, keeping the good stuff from the original, excising the bad, and adding a few fun elements (like the faint little "ooh" backing vocals during the intro).

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

lol yeah that medieval plucking is incredibly cheesy xp

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

it really is!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 October 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

I found the quote of Paul talking about Bob's fingers, may post later.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I didn't vote for "Black Diamond" because I decided to go with no covers. But it is GREAT and many times better than the original.

Yup. I broke my no cover rule for that one

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

can't remember which song has a solo that Bob starts in the wrong key, then bends and mangles to make it work.

all of them?

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

Ha!

So I am reminded that Bob's stagewear choices of dresses, tutus and trenchcoats was directly influenced by Captain Sensible.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

my appreciation for kiss began with "beth" and the replacements' "black diamond."

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

It’s pretty impressive, for what amounts to be a fairly straight cover version, how much better they made that song.

Believe I had it in my top 20 but there were moments I had “Black Diamond” a lot higher as it almost perfectly captures their whole act. A blistering rock number that, oh by the way, is a Kiss song.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 12 October 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Yup

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

I love the story in Trouble Boys about how the 'mats were doing some relatively high-profile label-showcase-type show in NYC, and Gene Simmons slinked in, trying to go unnoticed. The soundperson recognized him, and told the 'mats on their monitors (so that the audience couldn't hear) that Simmons was there. They immediately stopped whatever song they were playing and launched into "Black Diamond," while a baffled Simmons -- "How'd they know I'm here?!" -- slinked back out.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

The rest of that story is great too!

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs) at 8:38 12 Oct 20

One of my favorite of Bob's many squealing leads. How to describe, like Johnny Thunders trying to be Prince?

was off brand but I believe Bob was a big Yes fan

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

Yes, that is correct. Big Steve Howe fan.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

Some webpages say he was also influenced by Prince, which is news to me. Trouble Boys says The Replacements were Prince fans and has stories about Paul and Tommy but nothing in particular about Bob.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

feels pretty convenient, I doubt it.

bob was 20 by by time Prince was getting big
feel like you're true influences come earlier

and tbh it's not like Prince (though great) was really sui generis as a lead guitarist. like Bob would have grown up listening to Hendrix on KQRS

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

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#37
Take Me Down to the Hospital
from Hootenanny (1983)
Score: 138
Votes: 10 (0)
Youtube:
audio track

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

It makes sense, but I was still a little surprised to see Johnny Winter cited in Trouble Boys as a formative influence on Bob.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

I love the story in Trouble Boys about how the 'mats were doing some relatively high-profile label-showcase-type show in NYC, and Gene Simmons slinked in, trying to go unnoticed.

ultimately, it was his bold black/white makeup that gave him away

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

Ha. Jesperson was at the soundboard, saw him and told the 'Mats on the talkback.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

Robert Neil Stinson. Born 12/17/59. Replacements founder, guitarist extraordinaire: “I ended up sounding like Johnny Winter but I like to put a Steve Howe lick in. Really, I sound like me. I like the guitar. When I'm in a certain mood I can pick it up and it sounds like me." pic.twitter.com/ADawsDzrZS

— Bob Mehr (@BobMehr) December 17, 2018

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

one of the defining things about Minnesota punk was that there was no "year zero" movement, all those bands held sometimes unfashionable pre punk influences, and just regular 70s dirtbag midwest rocker shit

huskers obv repping the beatles in hardcore, etc...suicide commandos were def "a quick one while he's away" etc etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

What was the deal with the suicide commandos? Steve Almaas always seemed to be some kind of shadowy figure. He started some band I used to go see a lot long after he had since left, that being Beat Rodeo. Maybe once somebody pointed him out in a crowd to me.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

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#36
Portland
outtake from Don't Tell a Soul sessions (1989)
Score: 146
Votes: 12 (0)
Youtube:
audio track 1
Youtube: audio track 2 (Bearsville Version)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

still a little surprised to see Johnny Winter cited in Trouble Boys as a formative influence on Bob

if you were in high school in the mid '70s and you were a serious rock and roll dude, johnny winter and yes were both very present in your life. and bad company. and the doobie bros. and jeff beck. and the entirety of the ILM classic rock poll.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

What was the deal with the suicide commandos? Steve Almaas always seemed to be some kind of shadowy figure. He started some band I used to go see a lot long after he had since left, that being Beat Rodeo. Maybe once somebody pointed him out in a crowd to me.

― She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, October 12, 2020 3:48 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

to me they are the fucking greatest....Make a Record one of the smartest, funniest, best written punk records...they were so melodic and had a real 60s sensibility even as they were hyper

Chris Osgood (singer) was really the most influential man in Mpls punk, he mentored a lot of people including Bob Mould, the Suburbs, etc.

the Replacements/Husker Du are really second generation, the original (Jay's Longhorn as opposed to 7th St Entry) scene were older people, more kinda intellectual boomers like the NY scene

the Commandos were THE band when the Replacements etc were still forming

but I don't know, the record is out there and it's definitely a favorite of mine and glad I got to see them do reunions over the years.

Aalmas wasn't around as much he moved to NY and would come back for reunions but that's about it so I don't know too much about him...but I def got a "vibe" that he might have been into darker stuff...

here's a great interview with Osgood with Mary Lucia (aka Mary Westerburg, Paul's sister)

https://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2017/05/16/mary-lucia-chris-osgood-the-godfather-of-punk

here's "Complicated Fun" from Big Hits of Mid America Vol. 3 on Twin Town, about the best Mpls rock song still to me at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWqT7a0EjM

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

also a recent doc on the Jay's Longhorn scene, pre Mats/Huskers Mpls punk & new wave etc

https://www.amazon.com/Jays-Longhorn-Peter-Jesperson/dp/B0817KMH4W

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

XPS I think my surprise came from thinking of Winter as a Blues Guy, despite spending loads of time with his '68-'74 stuff and knowing--if not necessarily acknowledging--what a hot shit Rock player he was.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

i voted for Portland! not sure why that one didn't make it onto DTAS?

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

Hello by the way. LOL. I'm little behind schedule so will just keep them coming...

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#35
I Don't Know
from Pleased to Meet Me (1987))
Score: 149
Votes: 12 (0)
Youtube:
audio track

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

didn't vote for this but i'm glad it made it.

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

I Don't Know snuck into the bottom of my ballot as well. i think i mentioned it on the voting thread, but i love its relentless energy. did they ever perform it live with the baritone sax? i would love to hear a looser, even more intense version.

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

didn't vote for it but have always smiled at the baritone sax and "whatcha gonna do with your life? nothin'!"

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

"one foot in the door, the other foot in the gutter" is one of many paul lyrics that could double as a one-line description of his band

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

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#34
Seen Your Video
from Let It Be (1984)
Score: 160
Votes: 8 (1)
Youtube:
audio track

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

I had it at #10

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

definitely voted for this one, it rocks so hard.

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

I sometimes want to think it’s a trite lyric, but the track is so great.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

It’s trite in the manner of “Higgle-Dy - Piggle-Dy,” meaning awesome.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

My #1!

i fucking love this song. the instrumental part for the first couple minutes gives little indication of where it's going to wind up. i think i just really appreciate the act of burying a really catchy anthem of a chorus. self-sabotage in musical form

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

I certainly voted for it myself. The last 3-4 actually, I believe.

I suspect that photo is slightly more recent than the song but it features TV ANTENNAE, see!?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

i never think about that outre guitar-piano duel that comes in right before the anthemic chorus, but it really works.

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

love "Seen Your Video"

I missed the appearance of "Take Me Down to the Hospital" earlier ... I love that one too, it might be the song in which their comedy and desperation combine most effectively

Brad C., Monday, 12 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

the opening/closing riff is the best part, i commend their discipline in only unleashing it twice.

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

I like this one and could easily have included it - it's a pretty good synopsis of Let It Be, part silly and part great songwriting.

I've still only had two songs place from a 30 song ballot - waiting for my ship to come in!

aphoristical, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

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#33
If Only You Were Lonely
from "I'm in Trouble" single (1981)
Score: 175
Votes: 12 (0)
Youtube:
audio track

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

I had “Take Me Down to the Hospital” at #22. Love the “eight of my lives” holding pattern before the big finale.

“If Only You Were Lonely” at #7, because it was their earliest more sensitive but not too sensitive song.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

the way they turn what could've been a throwaway rant into a full-on anthem with the repeated "we don't wanna know"s is a nice turn.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 October 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

Yes

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link


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