Win : Freaky Trigger

Agree it does not sound like American rock but there is a hell of a lot of Americana involved here -eg. the dresscode, sleeve designs, and the aspirational nature of the music and lyrics. But yeah, Orange Juice, Simple Minds blah blah blah but not to downplay an inherent Scottishness to all this (no mention of Love & Money yet?) there is really no such thing as a Scottish music scene outside of maybe folk circles. All these bands operated in the London-based UK music scene. The idea of throwing every pop signifiers into whatever technology was available and throwing it out had already been done to death with enormous success by eg. Trevor Horn. Creating a fantastic stage persona and playing it to the hilt goes back decades of course but was particularly explored and exhausted in the early 80s (Sigue Sigue Sputnik being an enormous nail in the coffin). One reason that Win were not more successful wasn't that they were inaccessibly weird, but that they were considered to be behind the curve,

Someone clearly didn't read past the third paragraph to find out *what*, specifically, was unlike American rock.

They flip the bubblegum pop script on turning women into snacks? It's a weird take but we all experience things our own way.

I saw Davy speaking with Lawrence before a screening of Lawrence Of Belgravia in 2013, he was the surprise interviewer who just happened to be there a the peak of my Win/Nectarine No. 9 obsession. He had a weird and rambly, inherent interviewing style, bad mic technique (i.e. you could barely hear him), wondered if he was pissed as early as 1pm, etc. I got the impression that the audience wasn't too appreciative of this, some eyes were rolled.

*incoherent

Yeah, he doesn't seem like someone who should be *doing* interviews from that end? Like, having a conversation he'd probably be hilarious, but him trying to interview someone seems like it would be disastrous.

Listening to You've Got The Power and it's actually quite a strange song, like it sounds like it should be political, but I can't actually work out what the political angle is...

"you've got the power - to generate fear / you've got the power - to censor what is real"

Erm, who exactly has these powers? And they don't seem like these are good powers to be using? It's weird because the beer advert actually elides the second half of the couplets, and combined with the video, which seems kinda 'smash the system, man!' but the actual lyrics - to me, at least, read like an indictment of the system? Maybe? I've no idea TBH.

(Also makes me wonder - if this song was so widely known in Scotland, was The Shamen's Synergy a wink, a nod, an answer record, changing it from "you got the power - to generate fear" to "we got the power - you and me, you and me / we are together in ecstacy" - I don't know if this is political either, but "we got the power - you and me" is to me a more powerful statement than "you got the power to generate fear / censor")

Haha, I'm also not surprised that ILM posters have no interest in or experience of female sexual pleasure, let alone critical consideration of lyrical depictions thereof.

Well, I do!

Anyway, after all this time, I'm sold! I guess one is on Spotify but the other is not. (I looked about a month ago)

Most of the 'why is this not on cd' albums have now been. Actually, a whole lot are now out of print and expensive.

So, we can hope. If sSs' "Flaunt It" can get a 4cd appraisal, and Black Box Recorder can have a lovely box set, Surely......

I'm also not surprised that ILM posters have no interest in or experience of female sexual pleasure

they don't? i think you'll find some most certainly do!

I'd say that at that point in time the Win song was universally known in Scotland so you could well be right about The Shamen's Synergy being an answer record, which I had never considered previously. Good call!

Apparently it sold enough in Scotland to make the UK top 40 but the charts compilers adjusted the sales down and didn't even make the top 75.

I'm also not surprised that ILM posters have no interest in or experience of female sexual pleasure

Hahaha, ok guilty as charged. I really do enjoy the energy & the fresh perspectives you bring to these otherwise tired out threads so I am sorry for being obtuse.

If anyone is looking to buy "tears baby" on cd and doesn't want to join a club, might want to check the "last night from Glasgow" website

urgh terfs label

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