Van Halen!

Man, you want a killer groove ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU64RQYLbtk

First comment: "Edward and Dave usually get most of the attention, but to me, it's really Alex that stands out on this track."

This might be him at his best.

So good

man II is so good. underrated imo.

I liked that story Templeman told re:the "You're No Good" cover, and making it into a Horror soundtrack.

(CHAINED)

listening to 5150, sounding kinda awesome tbh

5150 *is* awesome

main issue with van hagar is self-seriousness + cd bloat over the following records

Yeah, no sense of humor, complete dedication to totally pat sentiment. The last time I saw Van Hagar they played some shitty song about mighty soaring eagles that sounded like a Air Force recruiting song.

that's a weird way to interpret "Finish What You Started"

Otherwise I always loved Alex's snare tone

I love Alex, *especially* the sound of his drums,

Rick Beato did a video on The Van Halen Snare Sound.

I've always thought Hagar's "Black and Blue" was the only time the band got as ugly, if not uglier, then ACDC.

I remember watching that. It was full of information, but if I had been as far off as Beato was with the final product I probably wouldn't have published the video. xp

On today's Jeopardy there's a round about characters played by voice actors, and one of the clues is about <this character's> "Oh Yeah!" is a combo of Barry White and DLR.

Answer: KOOL-AID MAN!

lol

maybe it’s just the contrast between Hagar and Dave, but Hagar just sounds so... like “I AM SINGING IN A HARD ROCK STYLE” generic caricature.. like he should just be singing for advertisements

ha yes, Josh otm re “Air Force recruiting song” vibes

you could plot all rock singers on a Hagar (y) vs. DLR (x) set of axes, and Jack Black would be at (0, 1). this is the only slide you'll need for your presentation, "Why Van Hagar is Bad". maybe add the various gifs itt for your "Questions?" slide decor.

Yeah, no sense of humor, complete dedication to totally pat sentiment. The last time I saw Van Hagar they played some shitty song about mighty soaring eagles that sounded like a Air Force recruiting song.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 12, 2020 11:26 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://youtu.be/ajW0d2Fc97I

ughh i should have said "uncle Sam wants you!"

err, tequila dad Sam

if you change the lyric for tequila sunrise to "tequila dad", the song is about Hagar.

It's another tequila dad
Starin' slowly 'cross the sky
Said goodbye
He was just a hired hand
Workin' on the dreams he planned to try
The days go by

Take another shot of courage
Wonder why the right words never come
You just get numb
It's another tequila dad
This old world still looks the same
Another frame

I just remember that as a kid who didn't play guitar, I thought it would be really funny if I just shedded Eruption and somehow really got it down, but didn't learn how to play any chords or anything else. Obviously didn't follow through on that.

Face down in Cabo

imo "Finish What You Started" is an example of a song where Roth would have done a better job.

I am hearing this in my mind and it is cracking me up.

If this was Westworld and we were programming a host to sing this, we would dial down the Guy Fieri by 50% and increase the Vaudeville by 50%.

Hagar is 72, tequila must keep you young

anyway I think he's kinda underrated? that Montrose record owns

"i'll fall in love again" may be AOR-core af but it's an AOR-core ~jam~, is what it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Qf5hJf6Ds

I’ll try again with the montrose album, dunno why it’s never really vibed with me, not even bad motor scooter :(

I think Hagar is underrated too, but DLR's braininess and sense of irony is definitely missed in the Hagar phase of the band

i like Montrose quite a bit, i think Hagar’s style suits 70’s classic rock better idk?

josefa & vg agreed on both counts

DLR is obv his completely own thing that Hagar couldn't touch

I just see people really talk shit about Sammy like he never did anything good is all

I think Sammy is a very good rock singer but I think he’s just too generic a presence for the position of VH frontman; I don’t know what he brings that could be described as uniquely and identifiably his

Red Stuff

Speeding Tickets

¡MAS TEQUILA!

Sammy was really lucky to land in VH right when their Imperial Period was beginning. I mean, they already were a huge band with DLR, but they gained a Pop audience with Diver Down & 1984, which only grew with 5150. Every Van Hagar album debuted at #1 (as did the first Hits comp), they had several Top 40 & Hot 100 singles (plus loads of AOR hits), and they played some their biggest shows/tours with him.

see this Hagar i like, kinda like no-frills Zeppelin
#CamaroMusic
https://youtu.be/RIyt0ulyd4c

van hagar’s more like a hot pink jeep

listening to 5150, sounding kinda awesome tbh

I highly recommend Sammy's book, Red. It's not terribly trashy, but it does explain a bit more about what makes Sammy run, not least that he abstained more or less from drugs and alcohol until the peak of his Van Hagar success, and also how a lot of his confidence stemmed from knowing he was successful *before* he joined Van Halen, which gave him some extra "fuck you" leverage. That, and making something like $100 million when he finally sold his tequila brand. Fwiw, someone I know knows someone that lived by him in Marin and said he was a great neighbor.

This is a good piece my friend (maybe?) wrote way back when, basically about how the guy could be top of the world and bottom of the heap at the same time: https://www.sfweekly.com/news/the-red-menace/

I think almost anyone can understand that Roth could very very hard to take —this is true whether it's 1982-1986, when he is in a league with Prince and Springsteen and no one else as a rock and roll showman, and also from the pot bust through the failed reunion, weird videotape from 2002, the Sam and Dave tour with the dye job or the wig or whatever the fuck that was, to 2007, when it was painful to see him fallen from that height, flailingly attempting and failing to be the same world beater. In both conditions, it seems like he would be hugely annoying when he was on…the polymath aspect, where he's an EMT, living quietly on the Lower East Side, is still mysterious…

Eddie clearly would be relieved to have someone like Sammy come along…evidently, he was embarrassed by the "let's party" reputation of the band… never mind that DLR's version of "let's party" is pretty quantum… but Eddie wanted someone who would supply allegedly serious, thoughtful material like "dreams" "Love Walks In" "right now" "When It's Love" and shit tons of other ponderous, keyboard tunes that I'm not that familiar with. And Sammy had the desire to do that…it's just that he's as you guys put it a Guy Fieri-type, or as the guy who wrote the Pitchfork piece said, "an amiable bro in jorts," and his efforts as such are chowderheaded… it's also that, by all accounts, Hagar is a swell guy and was easy to get along with; not for nothing is it that he and Mike are tight buds. By all accounts, Sammy wasn't the asshole in 1995-96: EVH was.

I know many people who really really liked Hagar in the early to mid 80s, went to see him then, swear by Montrose, but remained outraged by the indignity of not just the Van Hagar music, but that he dared to replace Roth.

man. i love music and i love this board! thanks veronica and everyone else. oh, and i love can halen! that’s a typo but i’m leaving it in

Can Halen: The IPA That Shreds!

Van Leppard IPA

Just imagined Hagar's voice singing, "YOU'RE LOSIN'! YOU'RE LOSIN'! YOU'RE LOSIN! YOU'RE LOSIN' YOUR VITAMIN C! YYEAAHHOOOWW!"

xp

I try once in a while with the Hagar era but it mostly just sounds like crappy Journey to me.

DO RI-I-I-GHT, YA DO IT SO RI-I-I-I-IGHT! *whoops*