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He did four in a row!

https://drummagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Van-Halen.jpg

I don't know how functional this set up was.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

The dream kit

billstevejim, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Neil Peart, eat yer heart out.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

That's why some wanted to call the band Daddy Longlegs.

nickn, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I had some free poster of Alex Van Halen from the Hagar era and there really were more drums than he could play. "Hot for Teacher" specifically, I don't think they ever did his intro live, they just went straight to the double bass boogie (which, no, I don't think is that tough, imo, and also iirc one of the only clear uses of two bass drums in VH, period; a quick fill at the end of Panama, perhaps?). Don't get me wrong, I love Alex, *especially* the sound of his drums, I just don't think he's a particularly special drummer. But I wouldn't have anyone else! (Same with Michael on bass.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

Wonder if he ever did a pair of two on top of each other like 88.

pplains, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

Like, love the guy, but this is kinda a shit solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_lp0uK8YRQ

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

Otherwise I always loved Alex's snare tone

I love Alex, *especially* the sound of his drums,

I probably posted this upthread, but I don't think there's any other band that had such a consistently perfect snare sound over as long of a career.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

It's the rare combination of a clank and a thud.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

It's ringy! It cracks and it's ringy! But it still has a heaviness to it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

He's basically trying to do the Ginger Baker solo from "Toad"...which...I literally can't think of a worse thing to want to copy/sound like.

xxp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

I think the last time I saw the Jump video I noticed that he had his cymbals arranged in a kind of unique way near his hi-hat, which lets him pull off all those strange syncopated parts.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Alex really knew how to rock those toms

brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

otm, lotta good tom content in his fills

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 October 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

really want alex van halen's beetlejuice kit now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Man, the roadies must hate drummers that have a gong (or two!) just for one hit in one song.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

What is Alex’s greatest moment on record?

calstars, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

"Hot for Teacher" is his most famous. Drum fill on "Jamie's Cryin'" one of his most heard, thanks to Tone-Loc. Subdivided 4/4 breakdown in "Unchained" is incredible.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

Man, the roadies must hate drummers that have a gong (or two!) just for one hit in one song.


It’s all Sonny Greer’s fault:

http://mikedolbear.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/sonnygreergsmdcom1113-6.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

I don’t know if he does anything amazing on “drop dead legs” but man what a groove

brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

he’s channeling some real bonhamie on that one

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

For me the roto tom intro to jump, also the interesting stuff on the “can’t you see me standing “ and g solo parts

calstars, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

So many great grooves. "Dance the Night Away," for its "Honky Tonk Women" take. "Mean Streets" for being badass. "Everybody Wants Some" for its surf vibe ...

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

I was just gonna say, the whole tribal thing on "Everybody..." is so killer.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

Man, you want a killer groove ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU64RQYLbtk

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

First comment: "Edward and Dave usually get most of the attention, but to me, it's really Alex that stands out on this track."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

This might be him at his best.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

So good

brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

man II is so good. underrated imo.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

I liked that story Templeman told re:the "You're No Good" cover, and making it into a Horror soundtrack.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

(CHAINED)

calstars, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

listening to 5150, sounding kinda awesome tbh

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

5150 *is* awesome

main issue with van hagar is self-seriousness + cd bloat over the following records

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

Yeah, no sense of humor, complete dedication to totally pat sentiment. The last time I saw Van Hagar they played some shitty song about mighty soaring eagles that sounded like a Air Force recruiting song.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

that's a weird way to interpret "Finish What You Started"

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Otherwise I always loved Alex's snare tone

I love Alex, *especially* the sound of his drums,

Rick Beato did a video on The Van Halen Snare Sound.

EvR, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

I've always thought Hagar's "Black and Blue" was the only time the band got as ugly, if not uglier, then ACDC.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

I remember watching that. It was full of information, but if I had been as far off as Beato was with the final product I probably wouldn't have published the video. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

On today's Jeopardy there's a round about characters played by voice actors, and one of the clues is about <this character's> "Oh Yeah!" is a combo of Barry White and DLR.

Answer: KOOL-AID MAN!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 October 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

lol

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

maybe it’s just the contrast between Hagar and Dave, but Hagar just sounds so... like “I AM SINGING IN A HARD ROCK STYLE” generic caricature.. like he should just be singing for advertisements

brimstead, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

ha yes, Josh otm re “Air Force recruiting song” vibes

brimstead, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

you could plot all rock singers on a Hagar (y) vs. DLR (x) set of axes, and Jack Black would be at (0, 1). this is the only slide you'll need for your presentation, "Why Van Hagar is Bad". maybe add the various gifs itt for your "Questions?" slide decor.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 October 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

Yeah, no sense of humor, complete dedication to totally pat sentiment. The last time I saw Van Hagar they played some shitty song about mighty soaring eagles that sounded like a Air Force recruiting song.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 12, 2020 11:26 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://youtu.be/ajW0d2Fc97I

Deflatormouse, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

ughh i should have said "uncle Sam wants you!"

Deflatormouse, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

err, tequila dad Sam

Deflatormouse, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

if you change the lyric for tequila sunrise to "tequila dad", the song is about Hagar.

It's another tequila dad
Starin' slowly 'cross the sky
Said goodbye
He was just a hired hand
Workin' on the dreams he planned to try
The days go by

Take another shot of courage
Wonder why the right words never come
You just get numb
It's another tequila dad
This old world still looks the same
Another frame

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 October 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

I just remember that as a kid who didn't play guitar, I thought it would be really funny if I just shedded Eruption and somehow really got it down, but didn't learn how to play any chords or anything else. Obviously didn't follow through on that.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 12 October 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Face down in Cabo

calstars, Monday, 12 October 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

imo "Finish What You Started" is an example of a song where Roth would have done a better job.

billstevejim, Monday, 12 October 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link


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