yeah, their #s 3-5 (Alex Chilton, Can't Hardly Wait & Bastards of Young) are the ones I'd assume to be their "legacy" songs
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
wd guess "Androgynous" being performed/championed by Joan Jett and Miley Cyrus helped it
― Josefa, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link
Towards the end of the song, you can hear Paul Westerberg sing the words "Jefferson's Cock". Occasionally, The Replacements would play gigs in Minneapolis under this name, with the band members wearing dresses.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
Ezra Furman also covered it
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
Where are "Men Without Ties" and "Waitress in the Sky"?
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
Kiss: "I Was Made For Lovin' You" has over 100 million more spins on Spotify than "Rock'n'Roll All Night"
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
It deserves them.
― đșđïž (peace, man), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
their biggest hits--"Beth" (#7) and "Forever" (#8) not even in the top five on Spotify. What is that second one?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
maybe IWMFLY ends up in Spotify disco playlists, while IWRNRAL doesn't make it on classic rock playlists? just spitballing though.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
hello, hello, the world doesnât begin and and with/in the US of A!Chartwise, Kiss meant very little in most of the rest of the world before âI Was Made For Lovinâ Youâ. But that song was HUUUGE - because: disco. Number one here in the Netherlands (and possibly the biggest song of the year). So HUUUGE in fact that their only other top 10 hit here was follow-up single âSure Know Somethingâ (which didnât even crack the top 40 in the US). The Dynasty album, their first album to chart here, went no 1 as well.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Made_for_Lovin%27_You#Weekly_singles_chartsAnd then thereâs âCrazy Crazy Nightsâ, another US non-hit, which in â87 became their only major hit in the UK. Itâs now their #5 song when it comes to Spotify streams.So yeah, gentle reminder: the world is so much bigger than the US.
― Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
"Forever" is a Power Ballad from around 1990 or so.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
âI Was Made For Lovinâ Youâ was in Moulin Rouge
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
its cos the kids know Beth suuuuucks and Disco RUUUUULEZ
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
what can you do?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link
"God Gave Rock n' Roll To You" was a UK hit too, tied in with the 2nd Bill & Ted movie. So both of their big UK hits were written or co-written with outside writers, which might be telling us something (as was I Was Made For Lovin' You too, thinking about it).
― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
some early Kiss songs may suffer from stream splitting between the studio versions and the Alive versions
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
i have to say after growing up as a big Bill & Ted fan and only ever knowing it as a Kiss song, to have The Zombies suddenly start playing God Gave Rock N Roll To You at All Tomorrow's Parties was one of the weirdest things i've experienced live. major tonal whiplash in my brain.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
"Rock and Roll All Nite" is the only song of theirs I hear regularly on classic rock radio but yeah, seems like it wasn't their biggest hit anywhere. Going by Wikipedia, "Shout It Loud", a song I've never heard, went to #1 in Canada, apparently. "I Was Made for Loving You" = lol, though.
― I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
Breastcrawl OTM, "I Was Made for Loving You" is by far the best-known Kiss song in Finland too.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:08 (three years ago) link
Yeah, if you asked people in the UK to name a Kiss song imagine most would plump for Crazy Crazy Nights xps
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link
Ween's Ocean Man's journey to becoming their legacy track (60M+ compared to 5M for Voodoo Lady off Chocolate and Cheese, which also feels like the wrong song off that record) was apparently its inclusion in the Spongebob movie and then becoming a sort of meme. It was pointedly left off their 2018 best of.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Friday, 30 October 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
Voodoo Lady was on a lot of alt-rock stations at the time, if I remember correctly.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 1 November 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
Do those guys get along now? Still tour? I know there was a big falling out..
― piscesx, Sunday, 1 November 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link
They abruptly cancelled their March-and-subsequent tour dates this year, must have broken up again
― edited for dog profanity (sic), Sunday, 1 November 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
One for the Pavement fans
https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/
― piscesx, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
Even as a massive Pavement head, I can't ever remember hearing the official (non-Peel/BBC) recording of "Harness" (listening now).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
Wow that's really interesting
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
lolWhen requested, Spotify declined to provide an interview with McDonald
shoulda posted yr questions on the Spotify thread
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
No kidding, lol. Interesting article, even if it doesnât really answer the question. (It touches on the same sort of speculations that were aired earlier in this thread, when the song came up.)
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
weirdly on my Spotify ALL of Pavement's top 5 (with Harness your Hopes as #1" are listed as <1000 plays...? #5 is... their cover of "The Killing Moon"?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, THIS song. And I would agree that sonically, this is somehow more "normal" than most Pavement; I mean, Malkmus sings like he sings, but the basic guitar/drum infrastructure is much more straight-ahead 70s AOR than the median Pavement track.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
Yes -- this is sort of a stretch:
Itâs hard not to see the zombified success of the song as being anything but for the best, because in this case it really is a great Pavement track â one that captures the essence of the band accurately and deeply
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
(and, for the record, it really does sound like a B-side -- Malkmus had it right the first time!)
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
According the YouTube & Spotify, Dylan's legacy song could be "Knockin' On Heaven's Door." It's in second place on both services (#1, though not by much, is either Mr Tambourine Man or Like A Rolling Stone). I wonder if the Guns N Roses cover drove the interest?
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
He might have been right about "Summer Babe" too, which much as I adore it is somehow not REALLY a Pavement song, it should be a beloved B-side
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
!!
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
what the
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
come on, you can play that shit at a campfire, it is a fantastic song but it doesn't really fit in with the rest of what pavement was doing
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
there are a lot of pavement songs you can play at a campfire
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
I disagree and I've tried
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
"Gold Soundz" I guess but I also consider that not quite at the center of the Pavement project!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
off the top of my head, there's also "here," "cut your hair," "shady lane," and "range life"
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
OK agreed on "shady lane" and "range life"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
but not, like, "trigger cut"
would love to hear someone take a crack at "conduit for sale!"
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link
i have definitely been around a backyard firepit where someone was playing a guitar and everybody was singing along to "range life." went really well next to "you ain't goin' nowhere."
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjNxmz6Ty0E
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
Why Is The Obscure B-Side âHarness Your Hopesâ Pavementâs Top Song On Spotify? Itâs Complicated
― âââ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link
Also mentioned in this article:
But looking at a similar situation of his own, Damon Krukowski wasnât so sure. The musician and writer was fascinated with the question of how âStrangeâ became his former band Galaxie 500âs top Spotify track â by a significant margin â even though it was not a single, was never particularly popular in the past, and wasnât being picked up on any prominent playlists.
― âââ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link
u might wanna scroll up
― just sayin, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link