Most Surprising Album in Jerry Harrison's Production Discography

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All that Kenny Wayne...

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

makes jerry a blue boy

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

I wish he'd produced all of Return to Saturn. "New" is one of the few great songs they released post-Tragic Kingdom.

beamish13, Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

I know nothing of Big Head Todd and the Monsters beyond the fact that their lead vocalist appeared on an episode
of The Real World many years ago and supposedly slept with one of the cast members.

beamish13, Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

It's almost awe-inspiring to me how a guy with such an impeccable musical pedigree can spend last 30(!) years working exclusively with so many utterly no-account doofuses. "We really loved the sound of those mid-period Stroke 9 records, and so we knew Jerry was the guy we had to call." Incredible.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

I wish he'd produced all of Return to Saturn. "New" is one of the few great songs they released post-Tragic Kingdom.

― beamish13, Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:55 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

return of saturn >>>>>> tragic kingdom, which has phenomenal singles and pretty fallow album tracks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

"new" is great tho

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

the Von Bondies album is solid

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

I think it's weird that he's spending all this time doing Kenny Wayne Shepard and String Cheese Incident albums and then just last year pivots to Le Butcherettes.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

None of these are surprising, because none of these are albums I have either heard or want to hear, which is exactly what I would expect from a "produced by Jerry Harrison" credit.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Throwing Copper gets my vote. It was my favorite album as a fourth grader so it's hard for me to be objective about it, but I think it holds up pretty well. Return Of Saturn is great too.

J. Sam, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

return of saturn really shouldn't be here imo, except for "new" it's a glen ballard joint

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Josh, you have definitely heard some of these. to post otherwise is just outrageous.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

i also don't understand why you'd expect jerry harrison to produce albums you've never heard. he was a beatle after all (shout out to U Talkin' Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head podcast).

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

I've heard songs from some, but swear to god I've not heard any of those albums.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Forgot about that Poi Dog production

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

xpost And as I posted on a TH thread, the band was truly greater than the sum of its parts. I don't think there was anything about Harrison in particular that would have attracted me to a project. THs are one of my all times, but for a Beatles comparison, I still think of them as, like, three Ringos and a George.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Where’s that one Psychefunkapus album?

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

LOL, that's literally one I *have* heard!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

Oh shit, the Surfin' on Jupiter guys?

📺👁️ (peace, man), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

voted Crash Test Dummies

we're ommaway to nowhere (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

It's like his intention was to ensure that the cut-out bin would remain perpetually stocked.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

lol

📺👁️ (peace, man), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Lolx2

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

So much terrible music, I can't in good conscience vote for any of it.

From the Femmes wiki:

Members of the band said they were unhappy with the choice of Harrison as producer, with Ritchie saying, "We knew Jerry and he'd seen us live and, uh, he didn't like it... And when I heard the reasons that he didn't like it, well, they were the reasons why we do like it! We didn't think he was right to produce music as weird as ours." Gano further claimed that Harrison had been suggested by Warners, "solely on the basis that he lives in Milwaukee, because we'd stipulated to them that we had to record there. This was outrageous from their point of view.

Weird, somehow I didn't know he was from/in Milwaukee.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

He’s now the only Head on the West Coast. He’s lived in Malibu for some years

beamish13, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

he tried to release an album under the moniker "The Only Head on the West Coast" but David Byrne sued.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

Voted for Fatima Mansions because I own it and adore it and had NO IDEA Jerry produced it! It's so un-Talking Heads, that's for sure.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

OAR ewww

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

would be fun to slip one absurd album into this list to see if fresh eyes could find it

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

would have made for a much better poll tbh

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

a new poll genre

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

1994 four Blues Traveler

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

who finds it?

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

1997 Whatever and Ever Amen Ben Folds Five

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

2007 Courage to Grow Rebelution

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

all of these pass

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

What was that artist you all got worked up about years ago, Denny Vertigo?

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

Maybe even Denny Lethargy.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

LIGHTNING CRASHES,

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

1998 Hard to Swallow Vanilla Ice

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

responsible for an awful lot of dross from the 90's, Jesus. ugh.

akm, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

2002 An Awful Lot of Dross From the 90s Jesus. Ugh.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

It's like that one Spy cartoon of Dan Aykroyd's desk with his Accept Box overflowing with scripts alongside an empty Reject Box.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

He's the Rick Rubin of acts that want to be forgotten as quickly as possible.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

celebrity endorser of the iHome line of bluetooth speakers

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

sits on the control room couch, awake and engaged, during tracking sessions.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

was he a producer for hire or a Warners staff producer? Both?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Maybe he was following in the footsteps of John Cale, with less spectacular results.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

He probably forgot to wear a cape.

She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

Huh somehow missed that he produced God Shuffled His Feet. I've only heard a few albums on this list but that one is surprisingly good

Vinnie, Monday, 19 October 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm has always been earworm comfort food for me, but I have never brought myself to listen to the entire album or anything else by them.

peace, man, Monday, 19 October 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

I have never heard of Cathal and/or Microdisney/Fatima Mansions until exactly an hour ago and I'm suddenly extremely obsessed

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 19 October 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Microdisney are phenomenal. Do you know Sean O'Hagan? He got his start there as well...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 19 October 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

Oh yes, I know his stuff... never been a fan! always preferred Stereolab without him and never cottoned to the High Llamas. I love all the Cathal-related stuff I listened to this morning, though! Fatima Mansions isn't on Tidal but I just was Youtube playlisting it and was delighted, Cathal has a proto-Falkous vibe or something. Haven't figured out if I agree with his politics yet ha

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

Hands up, who are the three ilxors that voted for the same String Cheese Incident album? I wouldn't have been surprised to see them get a joke vote or two, but three for the same album?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

it's true. kenny wayne arguably as surprising but suffered some vote splitting.

seven day permanence (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

failed to keep the herd moving in one direction

seven day permanence (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

or failed to herd the flock in one direction, sorry

seven day permanence (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Big interview with Jerry in the new TapeOp. Seems like a nice, thoughtful guy, too bad he seems to think sales are what make an album a success.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

Intriguing. I will read that. I should note that Frantz's memoir and interviews DO seem to dwell a bit on how:

(a) Byrne habitually stole credit for communally written material.

(b) LOL it's ok because Tom Tom Club sold a lot of records. Also ha ha samples.

I haven't delved into Jerry's side of this. But I will admit that Chris is both morally right (dude, just because you're the frontman/singer doesn't mean you get all the credit) and factually right (Tom Tom Club DID sell an awful lot of records).

At the same time, they're all globally famous and pretty rich. There is a limit to how much I want to hear about them as victims, thxbye

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

I never know how rich musicians are in an era when streaming accounts for income. I guess Frantz + Weymouth saved their Heads dough and/or invested well?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

I found the jus'-folks tone of Frantz's memoir often irritating tbh.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

Royalties from "Genius of Love"? Production points on mediocre records that nonetheless sold well enough for the era, getting while the getting was good? Real estate?

Harrison is in a different category, given the list at the top of the thread. He must have made a mint from "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" alone.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

jus'folks? OK, perhaps true overall but near the end of the memoir...

(SPOILER ALERT)

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Chris is on a yachting vacation in the Caribbean with his loving family. and needs to temporarily jet away to attend rehab for cocaine. And everyone knows, and it's totally cool, because hey, stuff happens.

Let it be said that I have been personally enriched by these people. Their art has defined most of my life since May 1986. My eldest sister was graduating from high school. I was a freshman sitting in the bleachers. She'd lent me her cassette copy of "Little Creatures" and my Walkman sent forth the following words: "And she was lying in the grass." I was hooked forever. One of their songs is among my open-mic mandolin standards.

At the same time, I have never interrupted a Jamaican yachting vacation to charter a plane to go back to New York so that I could go to a cocaine rehab session.

YMMV, carry on

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link

being a Belew fan I thought about trying to catch Harrison and his REmain in Light show when it comes back to the bay area, but watching some live videos I don't think it's for me. Belew and Harrison are fine, but the backup singers I can do without, and they have a bassist sing a fair number of the songs (and Harrison sings a lot, which I wasn't expecting).

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

I wonder if Jerry got a decent check for Virtual Reality in Ready Player One

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

Bill Bottrell's OST check for Send Me on My Way is probably much larger bit less noticed amongst the Michael Jackson deposits.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

ommaway

Rusted Root Neologisms

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link

Frantz seems like kind of a bitter guy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link

(a) Kinda, albeit in a genial way and (b) Can you blame him for a tinge of bitterness?

We as a borad continually dwell on stories about domineering frontpeople robbing credit from their alleged sidepeople. And we are often on the side of the sidepeople (cf. recent Police and Beatle discussions).

Frantz does dwell overmuch on it, yes. And it will be sad if he's 80 years old and still dissing Byrne in this sideways way.

But the dude has the germ of a point, yes?

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link

I only blame him for shouting in an oscar the grouch voice "Who dat? Who dat? Now who dat tryin' to be bad? Your mother!" during an otherwise enjoyable performance.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 February 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link

I found the jus'-folks tone of Frantz's memoir often irritating tbh.

I started out enjoying this but then this starting getting under my skin. I have no doubt that David Byrne is a credit-hogging control freak weirdo but I mean c’mon, dude.
(xposts!)

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:03 (one year ago) link

A lot of people fit that description, as YMP says, including one other guy…hey wait!

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

Byrne's solo catalog might be thoroughly mediocre, but he's released a dozen or so albums, a couple of them good, a couple great. And had plenty of other projects and collaborations and tours. And won an Oscar. And got nominated again this year. Even generously giving the scales a tip in favor of the first Tom Tom Club album, if Frantz had something to prove, he would have done so by now.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link

Regarding Jerry’s net worth, David Bowman’s mostly excellent but distractedly VERY anti-Weymouth opens with a description of him building a new home in Malibu.

beamish13, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

Doesn't that book also say he earned "Monopoly Man money" from the albums he produced by Live (i.e. wheelbarrows of cash)?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

Yeah I think Jerry and Chris and Tina have generally done fine, cashflow-wise. If there were a neglected Head who was languishing in poverty and waiting for some restitution, maybe that would feel like a severe injustice.

As it stands, I can safely regard any extant core Talking Heads acrimony as arguments among millionaires.

If I were going to get morally exercised about anything, it would be the external magicians who made the excellent Stop Making Sense-era "extended" band so fucking awesome. Let us now sing the praises of: Lynn Mabry, Ednah Hole, Steve Scales, Bernie Worrell, Alex Weir.

If THOSE people haven't been sufficiently remunerated and praised, imma fight someone. I feel like Chris and Tina and Jerry will be fine.

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

sorry Ednah Holt

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

Believe Bernie might have had bigger problems getting compensated for his P-Funk-related activities iirc.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

I hope Bernie is doing fine, of course. Dude is solid.

That said, my guess is he won't be writing a book in 20 years stewing about how David Byrne hogged his credits 40 years ago or whatever.

I am generous with my advocacy and with my sympathies. I feel like Byrne's contributions to the culture have been adequately recognized. I am generally optimistic that his bandmates will be generally okay (despite some understandable prickliness). Until I hear otherwise I will optimistically assume that their collaborators and sidepersons have gotten, or will get, their due.

p.s. I think we can all agree that the expanded Heads lineup was among the greatest supergroups ever, and that their work will be eternal. I love minimalist punky early Heads too, but the expanded Heads sound is among my favorite things ever.

Let us imagine that malevolent aliens showed up and demanded a reason why they should not obliterate or planet. Let us further imagine that they want to see a representative cultural product that encapsulates the best we have to offer. I would probably play them an Ella and Louis record first, and Stop Making Sense second.

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

Tina and Chris will plaything aliens Boom Boom Chi Boom Boom

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

Will play for

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

Bernie Worrell died in 2016 my friends

Pierre Delecto, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

At the same time, I have never interrupted a Jamaican yachting vacation to charter a plane to go back to New York so that I could go to a cocaine rehab session.

How Trump will begin his nomination speech in 2024.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

Volo Volo by Poi Dog Pondering is a great album. Never realized JH produced it.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Too coherent. Xpost

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

My high school bandmate is playing percussion on this tour ... I'm inclined to see it for that reason. He said the first leg in the fall was a blast.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Isn't the bassist from Belew's band? She's great.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

I had a friend who was in Poi Dog. Don't recall any JH stories, mostly the one about Nick Lowe buying them pints in a pub or him sleeping in and missing out on Prince's pancakes at Paisley Park.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

Re: Worrell, oops, my bad. Sorry. RIP.

forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, I seem to remember something about Jerry telling them he wished that David B would put the band back together.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

Isn't the bassist from Belew's band? She's great.

julie slick? she wasn't with the band in the videos I saw from the tour last year but I don't know about this time.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

Yeah, she's in the band now.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

I guarantee Bernie got fucked out of money by George Clinton

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link


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