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I would probably go:

Dance the Night Away
Everybody Wants Some!!
Unchained
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Jainie's Cryin'

Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

"Unchained" was my #1 in the Van Halen poll. Just sick timing in that groove.

Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

I wonder if the super bright, saturated Big Black guitar tone was Van Halen-influenced.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

my favorite van halen song is "girl gone bad," that was my no. 1, but my ballot was absolute nonsense lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

I have re-fallen in love with Top Jimmy

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

1984 best album ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

the best van halen song is without a doubt 'aint talkin bout love'

i'm sorry this isn't even questionable

this may be as fervent as i've ever been on ILM!

i mean the fuckin minutemen covered it!

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

Idk what my favorite song is but 1984 is def my favorite vh album
Girl gone bad is an excellent choice.
Hot for teacher might be the most advanced boogie shuffle thingy I've heard.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

The Minutemen and Van Halen are non-overlapping magisteria in my book

Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

“panama” is forever my favorite, but haven’t seen people mention “light up the sky” yet, that one slays

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

At the hight of my obsession (age 9) I probably would have picked ain't talkin bout love or running with the devil.

However they are objectively wrong picks and I would now refuse to concede that a song without a real guitar solo can possibly be the best van halen song.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

you ppl know nothing of the brown sound!!1!1!!1!

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

i think the first album is my favorite, but 1984 is a verrrry close second.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

last night i was standing in the living room grinning to myself like, how great do they sound with the stereo turned all the way up

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

model citizen! zero discipline!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

Xxp heh the first one is my second fave!
Lol mookie
The brown sound is indeed dear to me but boogie wants advancement.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

Van Halen are like Devo - a long illustrious career but their 1978 debut album on Warner Bros. is their best work

Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

Well, it might be fair to say they never bettered it, necessarily, though 1984 probably ties it at least.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

What’s ppls favorite of the albums that come between those two

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

Fair Warning, no contest

Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

Fair Warning is ultra sick

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Yes, fair warning.

Xxp What it comes down to for me is debut retains too many elements of 70's dinosaur rock, 1984 is more squarely in their own idiom (apart from the ac/dc ripoff song which is still rad) , has their most advanced songwriting, is leaner and meaner without all the plate reverb.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

The drier sound is so much more in your face

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

has anyone seen Junior's grades?

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

This name, The Broken Combs, it kept striking me as ...twee? And then given the time and place I realized in was a reference to, gasp, LONG HAIR.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

i don't feel tardy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

I listen to Fair Warning a ton. It's awesome. Though it and Women and Children First epitomize the "brown sound." They're badass, but also sort of ugly at the same time.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

I couldn't make sense of that, because they're so fully a 80s band for me, even if like the Cure or Cars they broke just before. They seem so distant from an era where long hair was a provocation in and of itself.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

Women & Children my fave of the betweeners

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link

i brought my PENCIL

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link

I've brought this up before but why does he say "I think the clock is slow" then "I don't feel tardy" because if the clock was slow he'd be even more tardy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

xxxp They had beautiful hair.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

i thought that was his way of saying he couldn't maintain an erection

I just assume all of Roth's lyrics are metaphors for dicks tho

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

how rude

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link

debating when I finally wanna do my run of Roth-era Van Halen this week.....

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

I did like too that for a new practicing guitarist, he had rhythm parts I could play that weren't boring but helped me stretch a bit

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

(I think a lot of my earliest learned riffs were from Van Halen's first four lol)

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

So on the question about how VH could have come up with 1984...

Diver Down was probably the end of the line for a draining cycle of touring/recording/touring over 5 straight years, as others have pointed out upthread. But it was also their pop breakthrough, thanks to those two hit cover tunes. And the Diver Down tour ended early in ‘83, almost a year before 1984 was released. They only played 18 concerts that whole year, down from more than 80 a year every year from 78-82. So for the first time in their career they had a long while, like 9 months, to knock a new batch of tunes into Also, 1983 was the year pop metal exploded - between Metal Health and Pyromania, the latter of which at least could never have existed without their influence, they must have felt both energized and like they had something to prove. No wonder the next record was a coup. Eddie was all of 28 years old when they finished it.

thewufs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link

because if the clock was slow he'd be even more tardy

The tardy joke is an immature r-word retort.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

didn't the band want to fight EVH on recording "Jump"?

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

When I was reading about it today it looks like the keyboard riff stretched back a couple of years, but they just didn't quite know what to do with it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

On wiki:

The synth line was written around 1981 by Eddie Van Halen but it was refused by the other members of the band. In 1983, producer Ted Templeman asked Roth to take a listen to the unused song idea. Riding around in the back of his 1951 Mercury, with band roadie Larry Hostler driving, Roth listened repeatedly to the tune. To come up with a lyric for it, he remembered seeing a television news report the night before about a man who was threatening to commit suicide by jumping off a high building. Roth thought that one of the onlookers of such a scene would probably shout "go ahead and jump". Roth bounced this suggestion off Hostler who agreed it was good. Instead of being about a threatened suicide, the words were written as an invitation to love. Roth later told Musician magazine that Hostler was "probably the most responsible for how it came out.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

The tardy joke is an immature r-word retort.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:31 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know this is true yet i choose not to believe it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

just remembering from the Guitar magazine interviews in the 90s how much EVH wanted to kick Hagar's ass after they kicked him out.

I think he said the phrase "He better be wearing a fuckin' cup, next time I see him" about ten times.

Kinda liked his bluntness in that interview.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

Re diver down. I Think DLR saw the songs more as a vehicle for the musical personalities (individual and collective) of the band. So was into covering rnr "standards" as if to demonstrate the point. They could do whatever material.

Think a big part of the progression to 1984 had to do with evh building a home studio.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

Riding around in the back of his 1951 Mercury, with band roadie Larry Hostler driving, Roth listened repeatedly to the tune.

lolmg

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

The only thing I remember from that guitar interview is "Dave and sam both suffer from LSD, Lead Singer's Disease" lol

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

Roth possesses a vocal range of five octaves and three notes.[5]

source - VOGUE magazine

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

(i'd be amazed if he had, like, 2.5....not a knock but lol no way he has 5)

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

xxpost oh god, the Lead Singer's Disease quote was a good one yeah.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link


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