Console Game Poll vol. 3 - Nominate the best 5th Generation Console Games (1993–2005; N64, PSX, Saturn and more!)

Of all of these systems, the only game I've played more than 10 minutes of is Goldeneye. Some of them I played on PC or as remasters down the road but not on console.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, October 5, 2020 3:09 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

starting with this generation in particular, if you played it on pc, and there weren't massive differences, i'd say you should vote for it!

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just annoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 3:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

whats weird is when you made your original post i think i was watching tim rogers talk about night warriors which kinda made me question reality for a split second

More PS1 (and in some cases also on other consoles)

Coolboarders 2
Armored Core
Bushido Blade 2
Chrono Cross
Ehrgeiz
Final Fantasy IX
Front Mission 3
Incredible Crisis
Jet Moto 2
Lunar: Silver Star Story
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX
Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions
Policenauts
Snatcher
WWF War Zone

Here is the list of nominations, which I will update from time to time. I've also given ~the internet~ commenting privileges which hopefully doesn't bite me on the butt. If something is incorrectly labelled, named, or console'd, please leave me a note so i can fix it! also it's in alphabetical order so you can look for things before nominating them! cool!

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just annoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 2:26 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this, but for majora's mask

Wave Race 4K would be a dope launch title for the next Nintendo system.

i am just sitting here remembering how revolutionary it felt to race on moving waves and kinda "feel" the waterness of it and oh no am i gonna vote for wave race? maybe

I played it on virtual console and it still feels so rad. Needs analog triggers though.

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just anoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 2:26 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)

this, but for majora's mask

― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Monday, October 5, 2020 8:53 PM (twenty-one minutes ago)

This, but for majora's oh wait never mind.

GBC

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons

are they different enough to not put em together pokemon red/blue/yellow style? never played them and always assumed!

They're different games - different dungeons, overworlds, mechanics, etc. - though you have to play both to access all the content on each. I think it makes sense to list them separately.

if you played it on pc, and there weren't massive differences

What would be an example of a game that's too different from this era?

Like, can I vote for Tony Hawk 1 if I've played Tony Hawk 1+2 remaster?

it's probably better to just lie and pretend like you played the originals

you pretty much have, only better

the foundation of any good ballot is lies

They're different games - different dungeons, overworlds, mechanics, etc. - though you have to play both to access all the content on each. I think it makes sense to list them separately.

― jmm, Monday, October 5, 2020 4:31 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok cool! added as two entries.

Like, can I vote for Tony Hawk 1 if I've played Tony Hawk 1+2 remaster?

gonna have to be a bit arbitrary here but i'd say if it's a "remaster," it doesn't count. like i'd call metal gear solid: twin snakes a 6th gen game. but if you played the PS Classics version on PSP or PS3, it's virtually the same thing, so you can count that.

FFVII PC is the one in my head, which is almost exactly the same as the PS1 version except higher res and more crashes iirc. this i would count. sorry i can't give a hard and fast rule but if you follow your heart u will find the truth

the foundation of any good ballot is lies

also yes what i do not know cannot hurt me

N64
WWF Wrestlemania 2000
WWF No Mercy

Ugh, I had FF7 PC. I got softlocked in a room where I'd saved because it wouldn't load the dialogue box of the sprite blocking the door. And that's why I never finished FF7.

i agree that 'remastered' THPS would not be a 5th Generation Console title, but that you should go ahead and vote for the first two Tony Hawk games anyway. man what a blast. some of the best memories of my first year of college took place amidst a dorm-floor social world revolving around those games.

Saturn:
Daytona USA
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Grandia
Shining Force III

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons

I'm still midway through these two zelda games on my pc gbc emulator, really good solid games.

Machi - PS1 and Saturn

I haven't played this as it's never been translated, but I think it's worth including. It was an early visual novel by the guy who made 428: Shibuya Scramble.

N64:

Cruis'n USA
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Party
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Pokémon Snap
Pokémon Stadium

Not sure hooooow many more noms we're going to get? So maybe a month of nominations was a little long. I'll say nominations close next Saturday, October 17.

i raise this question with every poll with nominations, i think, but is there any reason we can't just nominate all the games from a comprehensive list? i totally forgot about Mario Party but i would probably make my ballot - there's just so many games

maybe nom list plus option for write-ins? and people can campaign in the voting thread. i feel like i'd be more likely to miss a great game with a comprehensive list, as my eyes glaze over scrolling past all the dross.

PS1
Tomba!
Crash Bandicoot 2
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Twisted Metal 2

3DO
Star Control II

i'm usually the only one advocating a comprehensive list, so i get it, heh.

oh i didn't notice GBC was part of this

GBC Mario Golf

since Cruis'n USA (lol at the title formatting) is in, let me nom the other N64 racing game that my brother owned and which we therefore played the shit out of, even if I'm not sure either one was very good:

N64
San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing

also someone should probably nom the Star Wars pod racing game, that was a big deal right? but it won't be me cause i never played it.

N64
Star Wars Episode I: Racer
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron

This is simultaneously the most nostalgic era for me and an absolute motherlode of the jankiest games ever.

SF Rush! Forgot about that one. Good stuff.

this era has the largest gap between how these games looked in my head, and how they look when i pull up YouTube clips. i know we're tired of talking about low-res textures and elementary polygons, but MAN a lot of these games took place in a bleak, lifeless-feeling universe... combined often with unnatural "bonking into corners" control schemes struggling to catch up to Mario 64's effortless 3D movement. the graphics thing i think is at least partially explainable by these games being meant for the visual 'smudging' of a CRT screen.

in that spirit i hereby nominate a Mega Man game that i played more than it may have deserved, because it was bright and colorful in an era of faded mud:

PS1
Mega Man 8

sorry to return to this, haha, but i think the reason the nominations process for any poll bugs me is because i end up going to the giant comprehensive list to figure out what to nominate, anyway, because i know i'll forget some that i would have voted for

for example,

PS1
Dragon Quest VII

I've been looking thru comprehensive lists too, doing one at a time kinda thing (saturn is next), as much as I'd be down to just use those lists, i think the nom process makes it easier to separate the wheat from the chaff. i am totally ok with write-ins if sometihng is forgotten too, and if someone flags it in the voting post, i can just add it to the nominations!

sounds good, thanks! tbh i think we'll cover almost everything that's good, not sure why i'm being nitpicky

probably not going to be able to put together a ballot as i am too young to have really spent much time with many games from this era and i haven't really rated that many of them that much. the top 2 for me is easily majora's mask and metal gear solid though, they really tower above everything else

may as well nominate a few i actually did play at the time though. i tried going back to rayman years later and it was baffling difficult and not particularly great. i have fond memories of the spyro games from when i was 5 but haven't touched them since

PS1
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage
Rayman

you should put those five on a ballot then! ballots don't need to be full, its good to get as many ballots as possible!

few more days for nominations - as mentioned above you don't NEED to cast your ballots from the list of nominations, but the list will help other potential voters! i did my ps1 sweep and my n64 sweep, gonna do saturn and others soon. While I'm at it I am going to nominate my one jaguar game now, idk if i'll vote for it but i think it's the only notable Jaguar game so it sohuld be on here?

Jaguar
Alien vs. Predator

Saturn and PS1
Mega Man X4

Saturn and PS1
Street Fighter Alpha 3

which featured a great World Tour mode with lots of single player content.

Saturn:
Silhouette Mirage
Radiant Silvergun
Battle Garegga
Layer Section
Soukyugurentai Otokuyo
Metal Slug
Vampire Saviour
X-men vs Street Fighter
Fighters Megamix
Virtual On
Virtua Cop
Virtua Cop 2
Die Hard Arcade
Dark Saviour
Sakura Taisen
Powerslave (Exhumed)
Duke Nukem 3D
Sonic R
Burning Rangers

WOW good post, i would have forgotten a lot of those treasure games! holy cow radiant silvergun

another major Treasure omission:

N64
Mischief Makers

die hard arcade reminded me of one that will probably make my ballot:

PS1

Die Hard Trilogy

also PS1:

Vigilante 8

there are a lot of games on the PS1 Greatest Hits series that haven't been nominated, but quite a few of them are terrible games, heh

Some last minute additions from yours truly, and I am putting the ballots phase up in the next hour or so!

PLAYSTATION
2Xtreme
Madden NFL 98
Mega Man Legends
NFL Blitz
NHL 98
Resident Evil: Director's Cut (Dual Shock version)
Syphon Filter
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Resident Evil (incl. Director's Cut)
Twisted Metal

JAGUAR
Highlander

SATURN
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
DoDonPachi
Elevator Action Returns
King of Fighters '95

Also: while exploring the internet for fun gen5 stuff, I came across the soundtrack for a video game called Enemy Zero (game by the same guy who did the game D, Kenji Eno; soundtrack by Michael Nyman), and holy smokes it is a good soundtrack. Here is one of the songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twdma6QXisY&ab_channel=PaulProspero

Apparently he just reused this soundtrack for Man With A Movie Camera, which is some kinda Netflix silent film?

uh, if that doesn't work, here's a link enemy zero soundtrack track 5 (which just so happens to be called Enemy Zero)

i put em in! good enough for me. ps1 is also how i played diablo haha

Thanks Will. And yes I nominated them for this because my personal formative experiences with those games and the overwhelming majority of playtime did come on their console versions as opposed to on PC.