Console Game Poll vol. 3 - Nominate the best 5th Generation Console Games (1993–2005; N64, PSX, Saturn and more!)

megadrive was called Genesis

no, saturn was the one between the megadrive and dreamcast that no one bought

..except me. I was the only person I know who bought it. Everyone had ps1. It was the start of my now familiar trait of backing failed ventures.

nobody bought the Dreamcast tbf

erm

lol i'm sorry i knew that was coming

Saturn:

NiGHTS into Dreams
Virtua Fighter 2
Saturn Bomberman
Fighting Vipers
Night Warriors: Darkstalker's Revenge <---- this should win
Guardian Heroes
Tomb Raider
Dragon Force
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Mystaria: The Realms of Lore

yesssss to ledge bringing the first-generation rhythm games to the front. i would have totally forgotten to nominate Bust-A-Groove but that soundtrack was a BLAST, perfect "rental" game for this generation.
i know this period WAY less than the preceding one, but it did have a smattering of games i played the hell out of. most have already been nommed! a few overlooked N64 titles:

Tetrisphere
Super Smash Brothers
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

There was some bust-a-groove soundtrack chat here:

Laugh and Peace - Vib-Ribbon OST

I could be wrong (my memory is terrible) but I think I played all those rhythm games on a PS2 thanks to backwards compatability.

I still have my PS1 rhythm games and am endlessly haunted by the fact that PS1 discs have just a tiny bit of lag on the PS3, thereby rendering all rhythm games essentially unplayable.

N64:
Wave Race
1080
SM64
Smash Bros
MK64

PS1:
Tony Hawk

I should have not included the years, and you can ignore them -- they mark from the beginning to the end of production of the consoles. If it's on a later-gen or earlier-gen console, you can ignore it!

also point of clarification - i mentioned the neo geo pocket color above, it doesn't count! neo geo pocket classic only! i am sure this will cause seismic changes to your ballots

PS1

Ape Escape
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

PS1

TOCA 2 - no game comes close for open-wheel driving at Brands Hatch experience imo

N64

Doom 64
F-Zero X

PS1
Fear Effect 2

N64
Perfect Dark

oops, forgot the other one:

N64
Conker's Bad Fur Day

Of all of these systems, the only game I've played more than 10 minutes of is Goldeneye. Some of them I played on PC or as remasters down the road but not on console.

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just annoint Night Warriors the winner

Of all of these systems, the only game I've played more than 10 minutes of is Goldeneye. Some of them I played on PC or as remasters down the road but not on console.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, October 5, 2020 3:09 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

starting with this generation in particular, if you played it on pc, and there weren't massive differences, i'd say you should vote for it!

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just annoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 3:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

whats weird is when you made your original post i think i was watching tim rogers talk about night warriors which kinda made me question reality for a split second

More PS1 (and in some cases also on other consoles)

Coolboarders 2
Armored Core
Bushido Blade 2
Chrono Cross
Ehrgeiz
Final Fantasy IX
Front Mission 3
Incredible Crisis
Jet Moto 2
Lunar: Silver Star Story
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX
Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions
Policenauts
Snatcher
WWF War Zone

Here is the list of nominations, which I will update from time to time. I've also given ~the internet~ commenting privileges which hopefully doesn't bite me on the butt. If something is incorrectly labelled, named, or console'd, please leave me a note so i can fix it! also it's in alphabetical order so you can look for things before nominating them! cool!

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just annoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 2:26 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this, but for majora's mask

Wave Race 4K would be a dope launch title for the next Nintendo system.

i am just sitting here remembering how revolutionary it felt to race on moving waves and kinda "feel" the waterness of it and oh no am i gonna vote for wave race? maybe

I played it on virtual console and it still feels so rad. Needs analog triggers though.

I'm going to reiterate that we should skip the poll and just anoint Night Warriors the winner

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2020 2:26 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)

this, but for majora's mask

― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Monday, October 5, 2020 8:53 PM (twenty-one minutes ago)

This, but for majora's oh wait never mind.

GBC

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons

are they different enough to not put em together pokemon red/blue/yellow style? never played them and always assumed!

They're different games - different dungeons, overworlds, mechanics, etc. - though you have to play both to access all the content on each. I think it makes sense to list them separately.

if you played it on pc, and there weren't massive differences

What would be an example of a game that's too different from this era?

Like, can I vote for Tony Hawk 1 if I've played Tony Hawk 1+2 remaster?

it's probably better to just lie and pretend like you played the originals

you pretty much have, only better

the foundation of any good ballot is lies

They're different games - different dungeons, overworlds, mechanics, etc. - though you have to play both to access all the content on each. I think it makes sense to list them separately.

― jmm, Monday, October 5, 2020 4:31 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok cool! added as two entries.

Like, can I vote for Tony Hawk 1 if I've played Tony Hawk 1+2 remaster?

gonna have to be a bit arbitrary here but i'd say if it's a "remaster," it doesn't count. like i'd call metal gear solid: twin snakes a 6th gen game. but if you played the PS Classics version on PSP or PS3, it's virtually the same thing, so you can count that.

FFVII PC is the one in my head, which is almost exactly the same as the PS1 version except higher res and more crashes iirc. this i would count. sorry i can't give a hard and fast rule but if you follow your heart u will find the truth

the foundation of any good ballot is lies

also yes what i do not know cannot hurt me

N64
WWF Wrestlemania 2000
WWF No Mercy

Ugh, I had FF7 PC. I got softlocked in a room where I'd saved because it wouldn't load the dialogue box of the sprite blocking the door. And that's why I never finished FF7.

i agree that 'remastered' THPS would not be a 5th Generation Console title, but that you should go ahead and vote for the first two Tony Hawk games anyway. man what a blast. some of the best memories of my first year of college took place amidst a dorm-floor social world revolving around those games.

Saturn:
Daytona USA
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Grandia
Shining Force III

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons

I'm still midway through these two zelda games on my pc gbc emulator, really good solid games.

Machi - PS1 and Saturn

I haven't played this as it's never been translated, but I think it's worth including. It was an early visual novel by the guy who made 428: Shibuya Scramble.

N64:

Cruis'n USA
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Party
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Pokémon Snap
Pokémon Stadium

Not sure hooooow many more noms we're going to get? So maybe a month of nominations was a little long. I'll say nominations close next Saturday, October 17.

i raise this question with every poll with nominations, i think, but is there any reason we can't just nominate all the games from a comprehensive list? i totally forgot about Mario Party but i would probably make my ballot - there's just so many games

maybe nom list plus option for write-ins? and people can campaign in the voting thread. i feel like i'd be more likely to miss a great game with a comprehensive list, as my eyes glaze over scrolling past all the dross.

PS1
Tomba!
Crash Bandicoot 2
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Twisted Metal 2

3DO
Star Control II

i'm usually the only one advocating a comprehensive list, so i get it, heh.

oh i didn't notice GBC was part of this

GBC Mario Golf

since Cruis'n USA (lol at the title formatting) is in, let me nom the other N64 racing game that my brother owned and which we therefore played the shit out of, even if I'm not sure either one was very good:

N64
San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing

also someone should probably nom the Star Wars pod racing game, that was a big deal right? but it won't be me cause i never played it.

die hard arcade reminded me of one that will probably make my ballot:

PS1

Die Hard Trilogy

also PS1:

Vigilante 8

there are a lot of games on the PS1 Greatest Hits series that haven't been nominated, but quite a few of them are terrible games, heh

Some last minute additions from yours truly, and I am putting the ballots phase up in the next hour or so!

PLAYSTATION
2Xtreme
Madden NFL 98
Mega Man Legends
NFL Blitz
NHL 98
Resident Evil: Director's Cut (Dual Shock version)
Syphon Filter
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Resident Evil (incl. Director's Cut)
Twisted Metal

JAGUAR
Highlander

SATURN
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
DoDonPachi
Elevator Action Returns
King of Fighters '95

Also: while exploring the internet for fun gen5 stuff, I came across the soundtrack for a video game called Enemy Zero (game by the same guy who did the game D, Kenji Eno; soundtrack by Michael Nyman), and holy smokes it is a good soundtrack. Here is one of the songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twdma6QXisY&ab_channel=PaulProspero

Apparently he just reused this soundtrack for Man With A Movie Camera, which is some kinda Netflix silent film?

uh, if that doesn't work, here's a link enemy zero soundtrack track 5 (which just so happens to be called Enemy Zero)

which is some kinda Netflix silent film?

lol i am stupid

Oh! Am I able to add some? Is Dreamcast not allowed?

OK HEEEERE WE GOOOOOOO

Was going to add...

Dreamcast:
Shenmue
Shenmue II
Skies of Arcadia
Crazy Taxi
Soulcaliber

GBC:
Pokémon Gold & Silver

Sorry for not spotting sooner...if write-ins are accepted I'll still be voting for Shenmue.

Dreamcast is Gen 6 iirc

yah deramcast is for the next poll in uhh... hopefully 2021 or 2022? but by my current pace like 2025 lol

Aaah sorry, haha np. Will probably still rep for Gold & Silver though! Those were Color-specific.

gold & silver are good ones that we completely forgot! feel free to write it in everyone!

fuck, i forgot to nominate Enemy Zero. i won't be voting for it and i suppose neither is anyon e else so nbd

well ill add it for posterity :D

All for PS1:

LSD: Dream Emulator
The Silver Case
Mega Man Legends 1 and 2
Breath of Fire IV
Tales of Destiny
Star Ocean the Second Story
Valkyrie Profile
Parasite Eve II
Ghost in the Shell
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

I'd nominate the console ports of Diablo and Civ II if they're allowed for this too.

added those too!

went back and found a grip of titles i missed (thanks abanana!) so it shoooould be complete now? unless there's another chunk of the thread i also missed. lmk if something else isn't there!

oh i missed diablo and civ ii. my question is, would you be voting for them because you enjoyed them so much on the ps1 or because you wanna vbote for the pc games but nobody has made a pc games poll yet?

be honest

I played Civ 2 a lot on the PS tbh, not sure if I could meaningfully separate it from the PC

i put em in! good enough for me. ps1 is also how i played diablo haha

Thanks Will. And yes I nominated them for this because my personal formative experiences with those games and the overwhelming majority of playtime did come on their console versions as opposed to on PC.