Is Donald J Trump a psychopath?

he does not believe that other people are even real, with the possible exception of one (1) of his five publicly-known children

exactly

that is why i bumped the psychopath thread. maybe he is just a narcissist. i don't know if labels help, but there is something "off" about this dude.

I'm wondering if there is one thing "on" about this dude

I think Trump is stupid and reckless and a bad person in pretty much every sense of the word but this joyride thing is the first time I've thought he's literally an insane person

I don't know where the line between hyper-narcissist and psychopath is, or if the two aren't really connected. If such a line does exist, he has put down a marker where it is the past few days.

He's also quite clueless in gauging public reaction beyond his cult.

conservative america thinks 'freedom' is the unrestrained right to dominate. trump has no sense of others beyond himself at all, therefore he's maybe the purest possible embodiment of this ideal.

Put it this way: if 1% of the population is a sociopath, I find it hard to believe that there are 780 million people on the planet who care less about others than he does.

wow that's higher than i thought. i thought sociopathy was rare.

'Trump told advisers on Sunday that he was getting bored being in the hospital and was tiring of watching coverage of his hospitalization.' He briefly left the hospital to greet fans as confusion continues over his health @ToluseO @jdawsey1 @goldsteinamy https://t.co/O9QgVTACck

— Juliet Eilperin (@eilperin) October 4, 2020

seriously what the fuck

Put it this way: if 1% of the population is a sociopath, I find it hard to believe that there are 780 million people on the planet who care less about others than he does.

62 million Americans voted for Trump because he promised to hurt people

Put it this way: if 1% of the population is a sociopath, I find it hard to believe that there are 780 million people on the planet who care less about others than he does.

not that it affects things that much, but 1% of the population is around 78 million, not 780 million

but let's just make it an even 62 million

I'm talking world population.

He was probably tried of hearing himself described as overweight in every story about how the disease could affect him.

i mean, unperson is going to sweep in and "nail" me for this, but i don't think that was the prime motivator of most of his voters. a lot of those people just always vote for the republican because they think their tax bill will be lower or they think abortion is murder or whatever.

Oh sorry, you're right and I'm not reading properly. 78m yes!

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Apparently some people think it's as high as 4%

https://cmc.marmot.org/Record/.b35000260

I'm talking world population.

7,800,000,000 * .01 = 78,000,000

it's a lot

wonder if any ilxors are psychopaths

^classic psychopathic speculation

I know none of u are psychopaths because none of u r real

I'm closer to believing no one else is real than not caring about anyone else's feelings. Solipsism is much more socially acceptable than sociopathy, and that matters to me.

He's also quite clueless in gauging public reaction beyond his cult.

Okay but he also doesn't care. Like, I have no problem agreeing that he doesn't know... but if he knew, he still wouldn't care.

I guess? I dunno. I am drinking bourbon and probably shouldn't also be doing amateur psychoanalysis.

he doesn't want people imagining him in a hospital bed so he is doing everything he can to replace that mental illness with these different images, like him tottering around in his suit signing documents or riding in a motorcade or whatever.

even the way he walked to the helicopter--unaccompanied, giving the thumbs up, he wants to seem in control. and you know, there isn't anything psychopathic about this. the problem is that he is putting others in danger.

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Narcissist, sociopathic, histrionic and borderline personality disorders enough commonalities that psychologists just lump them together as cluster B.

I've lost my family of origin because of a guy with elements of all the cluster B disorders dropped in 27 years ago. I'm not so keen on dissecting which ones he qualifies for in the Venn diagram. I think Trump is much the same.

I'm closer to believing no one else is real than not caring about anyone else's feelings. Solipsism is much more socially acceptable than sociopathy, and that matters to me.

yup. I noticed that sly one, too.

Okay but he also doesn't care.

I agree with that to a degree (and the same thought occurred to me after I posted), but he supposedly watches just as much CNN as Fox, and being delusional is part of his narcissism; when he went for his little joyride today, I bet part of him wanted to be admired--to be awed by his courage--by even those whom he knows hate him.

He totally cares. That's his whole thing! Nobody is that angry with every perceived slight if they truly dgaf

I'm going with totally clueless. He's always wanted everyone to adore him but doesn't know how to do it. In his 7th decade of trying he finally stumbled upon being a far right wing agitator. He could have a good deal more followers even he wasn't so fucking clueless about how boasting about your own intelligence, wealth and prowess turns many people off. Likewise, insulting women and ethnicities prob got him some laughs and attaboys in the country club locker room but…

I mean I've known quite a few people who make it pretty easy to deduce that they consider themselves to be world class geniuses but they at least have had enough social sense to not just BLURT IT OUT.

Dunno about psycho, but him and his cronies are def sociopaths according to Chomsky:

I have no independent evidence about what is inside people's minds. In the case of the Trump administration, I simply think that they don't care. They are sociopaths.

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/17/noam-chomsky-if-you-dont-push-the-lever-for-the-democrats-you-are-assisting-trump/