xxxp Wow - I never heard this particular take of “Visions...”. Hot stuff!
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Saturday, 3 October 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link
I’m gonna have to get “The Cutting Edge” set... that’s one I skipped, but damn!
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Saturday, 3 October 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link
When you play THE CUTTING EDGE, it feels like the greatest record released in the history of popular music.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 3 October 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link
I now have the 2CD set in hand... the liner-note essay by B1ll Fl4nagan (a guy I once worked for) is really good.
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
Oh, sweet—this set has “I’ll Keep It With Mine” and “Farewell, Angelina” (pretty worthy repeats).
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
Reminding me: I slept so long on The Bootleg Series Vol. 9: The Witmark Demos: 1962–1964, finally got it! Reminding me also to listen.
― dow, Sunday, 4 October 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I'll Keep It With Mine, complete with the producer accidentally recording, "keep doing what you're doing," over the tape, is one of my favorite Dylan tracks. It starts off so tentative and just builds and builds.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Monday, 5 October 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link
So has it been definitely decided who he wrote that for/about? Nico/Edie Sedgwick/someone else? Was reading the so far excellent, dense That Thin, Wild Mercury Sound late Friday night and there was some discussion about this.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
From having read a little bit elsewhere, and via my own turn of mynd---think it might have been for whoever he was currently trying to pull, although if so, at least, far as I know, he didn't do like George Gershwin, according to some of his buddies: "I've been having a little trouble with this---listen, and see what you think. (Later) It will be our song."
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link
I heard similar about Vinícius de Moraes from a Brazilian friend.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
Can’t wait to hear this alt take of “She’s Your Lover Now” — one of my all-time favorites.
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Monday, 5 October 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link
Sorry, I was suffering from a bit of mixed-up confusion. The real question was whether “I’ll Keep It With Mine” was written for Judy Collins, who first recorded it, or Nico. What I read seems to favor Nico slightly. “Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat” was about Edie Sedgwick.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link
That Thin, Wild Mercury Sound is written by Daryl Sanders, an author with whom I am otherwise unfamiliar. I am however familiar with the author of this piece: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/874-that-thin-wild-mercury-sound-bob-johnstons-work-with-dylan-cohen-cash-and-beyond/
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 05:08 (three years ago) link
Didn't know Collins did it! From 5, from 1965, so maybe she did it first. Just listened on YouTube: it's fast, an early folk-rock jangle 'n' lilt, a suggestion of Latin, might could've done better with congas and more bass, maybe any bass---she tries to ride it as carefully as possible, not rushing into the money shot chorus, but is not entirely successful, also her loud-soft dynamic doesn't quite go with the echo, I think--echo is distracting, getoutta here, but there is some potential otherwise, maybe with another producer Then YouTube played her version of "Mama You Been On My Mind", changed to "Daddy": much better, just her and the fingerpickers, also fairly fast, but it works, the 'pickers are right with her (Baez also did a good version of this, even faster maybe, maybe a bluegrass cadence, words flying around, but no loss of clarity or feeling).Of course then I played Fairport's "Keep It," so unfair, so killer.Denny handles the tempo and volume perfectly, like she's thinking out loud, word by word forming for the first time, then the chorus hits, pump up to the peak, let yourself back down, to more level ground, or looking out the window---in her/their version (she's got those other voices, players giving her room, helping her just enough, like Collins doesn't), the part about the reliable train and the weary conductor registers (and always did, even when I was a kid), as metaphorically and emotionally appropriate for her having to head into THAT chorus one more tyme---repeating her effects somewhat, but no prob, they work again---without pushing her/their luck---it's def not too long; YouTube says 5:38, which I never noticed on the album cover, never felt that long (which was pretty long for back then, I think).This is remastered, so now I catch what I never had, after, "But how long can you search," it's "for what's lost." So now the thought occurs that, "Everybody will help you," which never did seem like a very Dylan sentiment, and she makes it seem a little teary, also "Some people are very kind," some sense of neg. experience along w irony, and so "Come on, give it to me," the almost regal desperate tender and maybe horny breakthrough to expression, reaching up and out to the other person---can see why Dylan would want to hear a woman singing this, for musical and other reasons, can imagine the song dealing with the way he felt, too, in some situation---wonder what he thought of this rendition? She got it from a tape or acetate circulating in the UK, not one of those special hotel meetings.(Don't think he would have dared bring it to Collins with such a plan, at least judging by Hajdu's Positively 4th Street, in which Collins wanted to meet him early on, because who the fuck is this guy with all these amazing songs---so she invited him to lunch, and he babbled the whole time like an unnerved teen (my summary).She got to be pretty good with his songs sometimes, but don't know that they ever got together again.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2020 06:33 (three years ago) link
Oh I meant to say something about her interpretation makes me see Dylan as---not really that crazy/sure about that crowd, "Everybody," duh considering the crowd on John Wesley Harding etc
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2020 06:46 (three years ago) link
So this is streaming only? It's not mentioned on the Dylan website. I assume none of this is previously unreleased.
― Duke, Monday, 5 October 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, October 5, 2020 12:37 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
As was "Just Like a Woman" iirc.
This revive sent me looking at Spotify and I realized that the entirety of The Cutting Edge (1965-1966) is now up on Spotify, whereas perviously only an excerpt had been. Some amazing stuff.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Monday, 5 October 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link
The new Best-Of seems to be streaming only, yes (to be clear, my subsequent remarks related to The Cutting Edge).
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Monday, 5 October 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
Oh, cool—this take of “115th Dream” has the crack-up/studio chatter that ended up on the album track!
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Monday, 5 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
One more thing about Fairport covering Dylan---Nashville Scene ballot comment reposted on Fairport post Liege and Lief thread:Also in this (‘18) 50th year of FC, and released right beforesaid Anniversary concert (when they werejust headlining at the Cropedy festival, as usual),we got Fairport and Friends’ (Fotheringay, Sandy Denny solo)A Tree With Roots, gathering their Dylan covers, suitablyknotty and smooth enough when called for, even addinga few kinks----kicking off with their translation of “If You Gotta Go,Go Now” into French language and cajun (?) music,the latter pretty unusual on non-cajun radio in the 1960s,but a UK hit nonetheless, their biggest ever, I think. They(orig line-up, so sung by Judy Dyble, later crew with Dennyon lead vox) even covered “Jack O’ Diamonds." From the folksong of that title, Bob Dylan took "Jack o' Diamonds is a hardcard to play, " for a long poemon the back or sleeve of Another Side of Bob Dylan, butapparently never recorded any musical application;Ben Carruthers did, and gave D. a co-write credit.Good discussion here, with links to both Fairport tracks andCarruthers’https://bob-dylan.org.uk/archives/8280“Percy’s Song” is a rousing anti-anthem, like “Blowin in the Wind”:both sway and march all ye right up through the brinkof unknowing. Percy’s friend bravely goes to confront themean ol’ judge, who slams the book on P. once again: he’s thereckless driver, killed people, case closed. Narrator goesright into the Headline News True Crime trope---how can this be, he was always such a nice boy--- refrain:”Turn, turn to the wind and the rain”---so familiar, this mystery, so off-the-record Relatable, but somehow never ina country (or other) song?
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
Wow, that Cutting Edge full content is huge !Some great stuff indeed. Lol at a whole disc of LARS takes.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
you guys know there's an 18-disc version of the Cutting Edge set, too, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bootleg_Series_Vol._12:_The_Cutting_Edge_1965%E2%80%931966#Deluxe_edition_track_listing
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
Now that might be a little too much !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
FYI, the entire Trouble No More is now available on Spotify as well. And, holy shit, this Girl From The North Country live in London is one of the greatest Dylan tracks ever.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link
Which album and/or playlist is that in?
― dow, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link
On, even.
― dow, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link
I assume it's Trouble No More disc 7 - pretty good version, for sure
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
Yes, Disc 7, Track 8. Damn. The arrangement almost reminds me of a Springsteen song off Live at the Main Point.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link
I have had the live "Lenny Bruce" off this set in my head for the last several days. Good lord.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Friday, 16 October 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that full version of the Cutting Edge was also ridiculously expensive iirc. I wasn't all that excited about having nine (or more!) different versions of the same song, so the nicely curated distillation was fine with me. When it comes to these Dylan sets I'm much more excited by lots of new live material than I am just demos.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
One of the big reasons I love the “Trouble No More” box set is you can throw on any disc and it’s not just 6+ takes of “You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go,” which is great but variety in this collection’s case goes a long way.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
Yeah Trouble No More was one that I had no problem forking the $$ over for the full thing, but iirc it was priced pretty reasonably, even taking into account that it was half the size of Cutting Edge.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link
I have the vinyl Trouble No More which doesn't have the full Toronto and London shows, so I am digging it now that the entire thing is on Spotify.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
The version of “One of Us Must Know” on the 2CD Cutting Edge set (“Take 19 alternate take”) is fire... it makes me feel like I’m hearing the song for the first time. It just pours out, in a total thin-wild-mercury emo flow...(wish I could say something positive about the take of “Stuck Inside of Memphis” that follows it... weird time signature or something, definitely a misfire.)
― Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link
(Mobile, not Memphis, duh)
― Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 05:58 (three years ago) link
I've found my favorite way to listen to the 6CD Cutting Edge on Spotify is to play it on shuffle so you avoid listening to 4 versions of the same song back to back.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Saturday, 17 October 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link
Speaking of crazy time signatures—what’s going on in “Just Like a Woman” (Take 4 alternate take)? I don’t even dislike this one, it’s just really wild...
― Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link
Wish I had a 2CD set containing just this BoB outtakes (no offense to the other albums represented here, but this set really takes off with “Visions,” halfway into disc 2).
― Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
Yeah, the really upbeat Visions are incredible.
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Sunday, 18 October 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
Guys, come over here to comment on my theorizing: Tom Wilson, RIP
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
Looks like yall nailed it as closely as possible by now.
Rolling Thunder Collection~Revisited~Just in time for Fall, the limited edition collection from Barking Irons that envisions iconic looks from Bob’s career as modern everyday wear has been marked down 40% for this holiday season.
Featured in GQ, Rolling Stone, and Billboard, this may be your last chance to own a piece of this one-of-a-kind collection at reduced pricesmore info and slick pix:http://view.fans.legacyrecordings.com/?qs=f5adf0d43cae75f8f7ab5a58e7aa47cd9e5e2377cac7c8daa3f8321a38ccec7abd3cf191563b55e53d85b8cbfce61a3449a5960467960a5c04b4c4654e83980b8bcf46c8deaadef21a0c25809e408f7c
― dow, Thursday, 22 October 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
The only one I would buy is sold out.
― bagel in the streets, donut in the sheets (morrisp), Thursday, 22 October 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Is someone gonna make copies of these out of cheaper fabrics, and call them "The Bootleg Collection"?
― Mark G, Thursday, 22 October 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link
All of “Trouble No More” on spotify.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 1 November 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
Not sure where to drop this, but came across this great (and very unofficial) bootleg, Days of 1978:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryYiOEHupis
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
New album "1970" just announced
― Duke, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
By Popular Demand, “Bob Dylan – 1970” to Be Released on February 26, 2021DEC 18, 2020
By Popular Demand, Bob Dylan – 1970 (50th Anniversary Collection) to Be Widely Released by Columbia Records/Legacy Recordings on February 26, 2021
3-Disc Collection of Previously Unavailable Studio Performances includes Complete May 1,1970 Session featuring George Harrison
December 18, 2020-New York, NY-Columbia Records and Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, announce the forthcoming release of Bob Dylan – 1970, the first widely available pressing of a three-disc collection of long-sought-after studio recordings, on Friday, February 26.
The recordings on Bob Dylan – 1970 were first released in a limited edition on December 4 as part of the Bob Dylan – 50th Anniversary Collection copyright extension series (which began in 2012). The buzz surrounding the 1970 performances, notably Dylan’s studio sit-down with George Harrison on May 1, created a demand for a broader release of these historic tracks.
PRE-ORDER Bob Dylan – 1970
Bob Dylan – 1970 includes previously unreleased outtakes from the sessions that produced Self Portrait and New Morning as well as the complete May 1, 1970 studio recordings with George Harrison, which capture the pair performing together on nine tracks, including Dylan originals (“One Too Many Mornings,” “Gates of Eden,” “Mama, You Been On My Mind”), covers (the Everly Brothers’ “All I Have to Do Is Dream,” Carl Perkins’ “Matchbox”) and more.
Bob Dylan – 1970 comes housed in an 8-panel digipack featuring new cover art and liner notes by Michael Simmons.
― Duke, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
Bob Dylan – 1970 (50th Anniversary Collection)
Disc 1
March 3, 1970
I Can’t Help but Wonder Where I’m BoundUniversal Soldier – Take 1Spanish Is the Loving Tongue – Take 1Went to See the Gypsy – Take 2Went to See the Gypsy – Take 3Woogie Boogie
March 4, 1970Went to See the Gypsy – Take 4Thirsty Boots – Take 1
March 5, 1970Little Moses – Take 1Alberta – Take 2Come All You Fair and Tender Ladies – Take 1Things About Comin’ My Way – Takes 2 & 3Went to See the Gypsy – Take 6Untitled 1970 Instrumental #1Come a Little Bit Closer – Take 2Alberta – Take 5
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, pianoDavid Bromberg – guitar, dobro, bassAl Kooper – organ, pianoEmanuel Green – violinStu Woods – bassAlvin Rogers – drumsHilda Harris, Albertine Robinson, Maeretha Stewart – background vocals
May 1, 1970Sign on the Window – Take 2Sign on the Window – Takes 3-5If Not for You – Take 1Time Passes Slowly – RehearsalIf Not for You – Take 2If Not for You – Take 3Song to Woody – Take 1Mama, You Been on My Mind – Take 1Yesterday – Take 1
Disc 2
Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Take 1Medley: I Met Him on a Sunday (Ronde-Ronde)/Da Doo Ron Ron – Take 1One Too Many Mornings – Take 1Ghost Riders in the Sky – Take 1Cupid – Take 1All I Have to Do Is Dream – Take 1Gates of Eden – Take 1I Threw It All Away – Take 1I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) – Take 1Matchbox – Take 1Your True Love – Take 1Telephone Wire – Take 1Fishing Blues – Take 1Honey, Just Allow Me One More Chance – Take 1Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 – Take 1It Ain’t Me BabeIf Not for YouSign on the Window – Take 1Sign on the Window – Take 2Sign on the Window – Take 3
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, piano, harmonicaGeorge Harrison – guitar, vocals (Disc 1, Tracks 20 & 24 and Disc 2, Tracks 2-3, 6-7, 10-11, & 16)Bob Johnston – piano (Disc 1, Tracks 24-25 and Disc 2, Tracks 1-3)Charlie Daniels – bassRuss Kunkel – drums
June 1, 1970Alligator ManAlligator Man [rock version]Alligator Man [country version]Sarah Jane 1Sign on the WindowSarah Jane 2
Disc 3
June 2, 1970If Not for You – Take 1If Not for You – Take 2
June 3, 1970Jamaica FarewellCan’t Help Falling in LoveLong Black VeilOne More Weekend
June 4, 1970Bring Me Little Water, Sylvie – Take 1Three AngelsTomorrow Is a Long Time – Take 1Tomorrow Is a Long Time – Take 2New MorningUntitled 1970 Instrumental #2
June 5, 1970Went to See the GypsySign on the Window – stereo mixWinterludeI Forgot to Remember to Forget 1I Forgot to Remember to Forget 2Lily of the West – Take 2Father of Night – rehearsalLily of the West
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, piano, harmonicaDavid Bromberg – guitar, dobro, mandolinRon Cornelius – guitarAl Kooper – organCharlie Daniels – bass, guitarRuss Kunkel – drumsBackground vocalists unknown
August 12, 1970If Not for You – Take 1If Not for You – Take 2Day of the Locusts – Take 2
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, harmonicaBuzzy Feiten – guitarOther musicians unknown
― Duke, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
I don't think I need this.
this is the copyright thing that dropped a couple weeks ago ... guess they saw the ebay prices and thought why not make a little money here.
It's good stuff! Nothing insanely revelatory, but an enjoyable listen if you're a New Morning fan.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link