TRUMP GOT COVID

Why is he announcing it? Unless he was actually sick he would surely hide it? Either that or he's faking it. Regular got it but not symptoms there's no way he'd announce

https://www.theonion.com/when-youre-feeling-low-just-remember-ill-be-dead-in-ab-1819584806

Donald Trump mocks Hillary Clinton over her pneumonia outbreak pic.twitter.com/feHjV6cLDa

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) October 2, 2016

4 years ago today

Are people not concerned about the "sympathy vote" - however undeserved?

lmao at this sentence from the NY Times article

Mr. Trump received the test result after one of his closest advisers, Hope Hicks, became infected, bringing the virus into his inner circle and underscoring the difficulty of containing it even with the resources of a president.

I feel like Trump publicly downplaying this for 6 months and letting 207000 people die might suppress the sympathy vote a little

smash cut to Trump slagging off Biden for not wearing a mask, at the horrendous death toll...idk, I feel the sympathy aspect is overplayed here

*for wearing

it makes no sense at all, but my confidence in the us public to have sane, rational reactions to events disappeared somewhere around the Brett Kavanaugh hearing

Obv stoked for this but also worried he gets a mild case, which is the most likely outcome

Obv stoked for this but also worried he gets a mild case, which is the most likely outcome

If its a mild case does SuperTrump announce this to the world?

Kind of amazed it took this long tbh.

Obv stoked for this but also worried he gets a mild case, which is the most likely outcome

If its a mild case does SuperTrump announce this to the world?

― anvil, Friday, October 2, 2020 12:34 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Unlikely to even be symptomatic yet,likely caught it in past week

20 years ago today I was awake in the middle of the night too so I could be one of the first in line to but Kid A and scoop up a sweet limited edition poster.

I’m only half awake rn so I have nothing clever to add here

Are people not concerned about the "sympathy vote" - however undeserved?

If he died soon I think it would be bad for the Democrats.

I mean getting mild covid didn't exactly work out badly for Bolsonaro but he wasn't in the middle of an election campaign at the time.

The Trump family were sat in that debate hall without masks, chances are they've all got it, and maybe some people on the Biden team as well.

He'll say anything to get out of another tv debate

Bolsonaro gets covid once every 6 weeks, no one pays it any attention

I'm not much bothered by the risk of sympathy vote but am worried that prospect of President Pence might add a few more votes. What are the election rules if he actually dies before Nov 3 anyway?

Amy Covid Barrett

Asshole’s popularity tends to rise when he’s not visible, so it could help him

xps:
How Stuff Works: What Happens if a Presidential Candidate Dies?

Before the Electoral College meets: new candidate chosen by party. It doesn't have to be the vice-presidential candidate.
Before inauguration: covered by succession rules under 20th amendment. VP-elect becomes President-elect.

Seems bizarre outcomes are possible, eg: Trump loses the popular vote but has an edge in the electoral college, dies before the Electoral College meets, the GOP puts Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz on the Electoral College ballot, and if their electors are faithful or Biden has unfaithful electors, someone who wasn't on any 2016 ticket could get in. One would hope that would be the death knell for the Electoral College...

Great article about some such bizarre-outcome possibilities:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

my thoughts and prayers going out to that poor virus right now

Kate Garraway - Did you have an instinctive reaction when you heard Donald Trump had contracted coronavirus?

Dominic West - "Well I did slightly leap in the air with joy when I heard"#GMB pic.twitter.com/d2tqM3zyhR

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) October 2, 2020

Aside from poetic justice, isn't this actually terrible news? If he's lying, which could be the case, and could be covered up easily, he could make a "miraculous recovery", further enabling his fantasy 'everything is fine' narratives. If he is sick and survives, he'll sail to victory on a sympathy vote. If he is sick and dies, another Republican will sail to victory on a sympathy vote (and a de-energized left who are already only voting for Biden begrudgingly).

Has anyone ever won on a sympathy vote?!

Sympathy isn’t doing it for Boris, who had a baby on the way at the time as well and was a lot more popular than Trump.

who votes for someone because they're ill?

People who were going to anyway

You would think without the rallies it's the Republican activists who would be further de-energised too.

left wing tinfoil hat social media seem to think this is a scam and he's going to announce a miracle cure in a couple of weeks, doesn't sound likely.

People who were going to anyway

Exactly. Don't think Trump will lose support because of this but the idea that someone who wasn't going to vote for him in the first place decides to do so because "get well soon" seems preposterous.

Ah imagine thinking this admin could cover something up

Has anyone ever won on a sympathy vote?!

It's a weird world and there have been a lot of elections. Some probably qualify. There are interesting stories out there. Some wives have won (or been appointed to) seats previously occupied by their husbands.

Jean Carnahan, for example, was appointed to the Senate seat that her husband Mel won posthumously; she was not reelected.

If Mark Kelly wins his Senate race it may partially reflect a sympathy vote for Gabby Giffords.

If he is sick and survives, he'll sail to victory on a sympathy vote.

No. People hate him.

If he is sick and dies, another Republican will sail to victory on a sympathy vote (and a de-energized left who are already only voting for Biden begrudgingly).

No. Mike Pence is widely loathed within the Republican Party, and the Trump cult views him as basically a vestigial tail. Only the hardest of Bible-thumping psychos actually likes Pence.

I will say this - the emails I got overnight with subject lines like "Your chance to meet the President of the United States" are reading pretty darkly hilarious this morning.

This is all Trump's own fault for getting so many tests.

a) no he doesn't
b) god speed, comrade rona

It's a weird world and there have been a lot of elections. Some probably qualify. There are interesting stories out there. Some wives have won (or been appointed to) seats previously occupied by their husbands.

The world can be weird but our march toward the destruction of humanity -- something you'd think as spetacular -- as quite banal for much of the time.

I'd rather wait for narrowing gaps in polls from this point onwards.

Maybe God gave Trump covid so he'd win with a sympathy vote from the people that crucified his son. Weird.

COVID-19, welcome to the resistance.

This is all Trump's own fault for getting so many tests.

― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Friday, October 2, 2020 7:27 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Actual lols.

Boris did well out of the sympathy vote for a month or so, which is all Trump really needs. Admittedly Boris was starting from a much higher position in the polls.

The Republicans are going to fight this month dirty as hell. We've seen nothing yet

"Boris did well out of the sympathy vote for a month or so, which is all Trump really needs."

He did not fight an election from a hospital bed.

As has been routine for months, Vice President Pence is tested for COVID-19 every day. This morning, Vice President Pence and the Second Lady tested negative for COVID-19. Vice President Pence remains in good health and wishes the Trumps well in their recovery.

— Devin O’Malley (@VPPressSec) October 2, 2020

Am I reading into this or does this imply that Trump WASN’T being tested every day?

https://i.imgur.com/2JVhTEf.jpg

xpost It sure sounds like it. Unless it's just a total coincidence that his daily test came up positive on the same day as and immediately after Hicks came up positive.

hmm, I guess it's tough to do the tradeoffs, but I feel like there was some importance to him being rebuked by voters rather than just dying. Although I can certainly see some benefit to the stop the steal campaign never having happened.

in the next couple of decades the republican party will spend amazing amounts of energy on his rehabilitation, attempting to move the needle from 'thoroughly disgraced' to 'tragically flawed'. there's a good chance they will pull it off, too.

A good chance they'll pull it off? That's a clickbait story at any liberal publication, it's near inevitable.

hm maybe I prefer that to My Antonia come to think of it

hmm, I guess it's tough to do the tradeoffs, but I feel like there was some importance to him being rebuked by voters rather than just dying. Although I can certainly see some benefit to the stop the steal campaign never having happened.

It is an open question in my mind whether a human whose character is 100% composed of flaws can correctly be described as flawed, since flaws are normally identified and defined by the more perfect condition of their surrounding medium.

lol

"controversial former President and conservative hero"

the stink of the fart is only noticeable when there is non-fart scent around it to contrast it with

having grown up on a cow farm, i can confirm that as essentially accurate

We all knew he had it bad. I’m pissed off by this revive of that moment & the reminder that we could have been spared the whole lame duck period & subsequent insurrection if he had just done the reasonable thing & kicked it.

Remembering that period, when COVID in the US was taking off like a rocket & all anyone was talking about was “The severity of the pandemic is Trump’s fault and WHY won’t he & the cons just wear a damn mask” & when he got the Vid it was like THIS IS WHAT YOU SOWED, NOW REAP
and the disappointment when he did not in fact reap, which took the wind out of the anti-Trump momentum — just a bit, but enough to notice.

Fuck you, Donald Trump.

Since this is the active Trump thread rn:

One America News aired this "tribute" to Donald Trump, featuring solemn piano music and a poem by Rudyard Kipling. This is not from an opinion show; it's from a news hour. pic.twitter.com/YmCKGHmnVq

— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) February 11, 2021

And this:

this is a real ad running on Newsmax pic.twitter.com/FRZUpueQGl

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 11, 2021

It's a big race to that bottom, but Huckabee might just have claimed the title for "Most Pathetic Trump Toady"...

"Mike Huckabee's education company" four words that make no sense when placed in that order.

here's an improved version of the If video

They made it exceptionally easy to change the tone of the video pic.twitter.com/tWUEfZrx6t

— David A Bliss 🌹 (@davidallynbliss) February 11, 2021

and the disappointment when he did not in fact reap, which took the wind out of the anti-Trump momentum — just a bit, but enough to notice.

Fuck you, Donald Trump.

yes but we're only 20 days out of office and he a) is still too busy pissing his pants to appear in public and b) might yet face tens or hundreds of years in prison. chin up!

damn i wish pence had a dagger in his hand, that would be a perfect ending. but, no surprise he is the biggest cowardly wuss of all time.

"Mike Huckabee's education company" four words that make no sense when placed in that order.

wonder if he has any materials on how to care for dogs

Ok, I had a go too, very obvious thing to do, but it fits very well

Sorry, I had to do this. It does fit even better than expected though. pic.twitter.com/CyrZQzKeZL

— Centuries of Sound (@Centuries_Sound) February 12, 2021

gotta project it on 16mm while flapping the film with yr fingers

I read that that "Free" Huckabee Kids Guide to Trumpism actually requires automatic payments from a credit card, so all in all, a pretty apt way to pass your legacy as sheep for right-wing fleecing on to your children.

aw, i was gonna order some copies to scan and post.

man it wouldve been so cool if he died, but on the other hand the storming of the capitol was pretty momentous too

idk what Kipling poem they used (I have a guess but I'm not going to click on it), but I'm guessing it wasn't this one:

I could not dig: I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?

It was the one that began "There once was a man from Nantucket."

ah, a classic.

you're correct about the robbing and the gwb alignment for sure

They used If, because they are fucking basic but i'm sure you knew that

The stupidest thing about that If/Trump video is that it was billed as a "tribute to his accomplishments", but the video clips just showed him walking around in various places, waving vaguely at either people or trees or walls - it wasn't always easy to tell -, with zero hint of any accomplishments of any kind. They didn't even show his big beautiful border wall. Apparently his great accomplishment consisted of walking and waving without tripping over his feet.

the thing that really made my heart sink was after Trump got Covid a whole host of cable/late night hosts from Chris Hayes to Stephen Colbert to basically everyone on CNN said something to the effect of "we wish him and Melania a speedy recovery"

maybe it was just for appearances and to not play into the "evil liberals want Trump to DIE!" narrative but it still was sickening. the man is singlehandedly responsible for getting a quarter million people killed. he's made life worse for pretty much everyone on the planet. you spend every night telling your audience what a soulless monster he is. if there was ever a person who deserved a long, painful covid death, it's him.

you have to wonder if he'd got reelected would more people have got the jabs?

dang i didn't mean to bump this what am i doing over here