"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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I voted/posted my ballot today at the US Embassy drop box. Embassy Gardens is some next-level edge city.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

srsly

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

Hopefully a Biden quote in the thread title is a good omen.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

I actually think Biden needs to push the "if I'm president, you don't have to hear from this guy any more" angle harder

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

I need to go there to renew my iVisa once everything returns to something close to normal, and am dreading it. The old embassy was terrifying enough. xps

Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

I liked the new embassy when I got a tour of the place last year. But I don't have to live with it.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

I actually think Biden needs to push the "if I'm president, you don't have to hear from this guy any more" angle harder

it is 1000% the best (true) angle he's got

the typo doer (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

For Voters Still Mulling, One Thing Is Clear: That Debate Didn’t Help

A small but crucial segment of likely voters say they remain uncommitted — to a candidate or to voting at all — and nothing they heard on Tuesday clinched things for them.

via NYT article. who the fuck are these people?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

narcissism

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

The kingmakers.

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

they have been inspired by susan collins and are now emulating her methodology

idkwtf (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

HERE’S WHY I’M AN UNDECIDED VOTER pic.twitter.com/kg7GBwNpgn

— blaire erskine (@blaireerskine) September 30, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

https://iep.utm.edu/derrida/#H5

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

Doesn't seem that weird to me. People have internalized that debates are a normal and necessary part of presidential elections. Even if they don't personally enjoy them, they may feel that canceling them would be undemocratic, or would have unexpected consequences.

jaymc, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Trump requires food aid boxes to come with a letter from him
The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program...

Let them eat government cheese! If you don't vote for me.. no more food for you!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

wasn't his $100 Medicare gift card tanked for basically this reason

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

The letter also mentions you should wash your hands, and stay home if you don't feel well. See, he's totally on it! The Churchill of Covid-19.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

If you don't do any reporting, have never demonstrated any insight about politics, and don't even write particularly well, you'd think you could at the very least understand that 20% ≠ 0%. https://t.co/G1eONuBP1m

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 1, 2020

https://clickhole.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/dnmtn4ksijwyep0xmljk.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

I have no clue how the 538 model works but given Biden is ahead by more than the MOE in basically every swing state am I to assume that "Trump has no chance" would be true if the election were held TODAY?

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

In an election held today — Trump has no more time to make up ground — his chances would be 9 percent, not 21 percent, according to our forecast.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

I saw that CNN headline... such a bummer, laurel-resting is really not what we need right now.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah, this made me tense up.

Seeing some chatter/ads on social media urging third party voting because Biden is ahead. Anyone looking into that? Feels like 2016.

— Melody Joy Kramer (@mkramer) October 1, 2020

jaymc, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

To paraphrase Tommy Boy, what Chris Cillizza doesn't know is what makes him Chris Cillizza.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

After what happened in 2016 I don’t think you have much to worry about

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

I think that's probably right, frogbs.

jaymc, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

really hope idea of an already given success isn't going to lead to people thinking the vote is already in the bag and staying home.
Would think everybody who could do anything to prevent another 4 years of this mess should see their input counting and necessary and things like that.

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

i don't think people are going to stay home. the point of that tweet is that chris cillizza is unbelievably stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

They say the Democrats are very motivated this year, including the youngins... I pray this is true.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

xps: pretty sure it's 'fooled man can't get fooled again.'

📺👁️ (peace, man), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Republicans fear Trump's debate comments on white supremacy could harm them in November

This implies they're otherwise fine with them.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

duh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

La Crosse Mayor Tim Kabat tells me the city's airport has been notified Air Force One will no longer be arriving on Saturday, when President Trump was supposed to hold one of two rallies in Wisconsin this weekend.

— Molly Beck (@MollyBeck) October 1, 2020


Kabat says state sen candidate @DanKapanke inquired about what would be needed for a permit to hold a rally in La Crosse's Copeland Park, where his La Crosse Loggers play, but city said it would be unlikely a permit would be issued because of the COVID-19 situation in the city.

— Molly Beck (@MollyBeck) October 1, 2020

wisconsin is in a bad way with covid. if the GOP are cancelling an event it sounds like it might be bad enough shut down campaigning there until the election.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

no kidding!! I was fucking furious that asshole wanted to come here right now!!

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Things must have been getting a little too close in Texas... I'd be interested to see the internal polling that prompted this move.

BREAKING: Gov. Abbott issues proclamation CLOSING (as of Oct. 2) satellite offices where voters can drop off completed mail-in ballots.
Counties can only have 1 dropoff point, he says.
Travis has 4, including 3 downtown.
Harris has 12.

— Chuck Lindell (@chucklindell) October 1, 2020

Abbott says move, which also requires early voting clerks to let poll watchers observe ballot delivery, is an election security measure.
Clerks said the multiple dropoff spots were to help voters, particularly amid questions about Postal Service efficiency.

— Chuck Lindell (@chucklindell) October 1, 2020

Read the proclamation, which amended Abbott's July 27 order that extended early voting and allowed early dropoff of mail ballots, here: https://t.co/uPc4MtYMis

— Chuck Lindell (@chucklindell) October 1, 2020

Democrats criticized Abbott's order as a thinly veiled effort to suppress votes in a tight election. pic.twitter.com/ibDg0xtkB9

— Chuck Lindell (@chucklindell) October 1, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

The president claimed Biden would propose a "700 percent increase in refugees coming from the most dangerous places in the world, including Yemen, Syria, and your favorite country, Somalia."

"Biden will turn Minnesota into a refugee camp … overwhelming public resources, overcrowding schools and inundating your hospitals," he added.

This is really, really dark stuff.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

If it talks like a fascist…

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

Biden launching in-person canvassing

jaymc, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Relevant to Trump's anti-refugee remarks in MN: His campaign is running an ad that warns Biden will increase refugee resettlement "by 700 percent." And it's true - bc Trump drastically cut down on refugee resettlement, so restoring it surges the total. https://t.co/wUJlSVQcii

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 1, 2020

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

If not for refugee resettlement, we wouldn't have Jared Kushner.

Oh...wait...

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

"What is going on with Omar?" he continued, citing unproven claims tying Omar to a ballot harvesting scheme. "I’ve been reading these reports for two years about how corrupt and crooked she is. Let’s get with it. Let’s get with it."

The rally crowd then broke into a chant of "lock her up..."

America at her best.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

jfc

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

somehow every day i increasingly look forward to his death

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

This alone just caused me to make a donation to Joe Biden.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

"she want to tell us how to run our country"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

Icky Trump, nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too

Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

christ what an asshole

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

I hope the date he passes becomes a national holiday so I can hose down his grave every year without having to dip into my PTO.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

I apologize if it was tone-deaf or inappropriate.

Don't worry about it. Saying something positive about Barack Obama is always tone-deaf and inappropriate, if you're map or table.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

There’s nothing wrong with that tweet.

It’s a legit response (funny? I laughed) to misguided Obama adulation.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

Putting aside whether or not the tweet is supposed to be funny, I fail to see the analogy between atrociously bungled strikes that killed civilians instead of the intended target and a nothing-but-net three pointer.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

Turnout of FL's registrants so far:

Dems: 64.3%
GOPers: 64.1%
NPA/others: 49.7%

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 1, 2020

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

They are not analogous, that’s the point.

The “joke” is this scrim of celebrity that obscures the atrocities. It’s a sendup of responses like Bradley Whitford’s “spank bank” line.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

I've never read this guy, but this is worth a peek:

https://kendallkaut.substack.com/p/why-joe-biden-is-going-to-win

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

Nate Silver gave Donald Trump around a 30% chance to win. 30% events happen all the time.

ok, and now he has Trump at 10%. so why write an entire article arguing that Biden is a shoo-in?

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

i'm acting way too cranky this morning so will bow out of this thread.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

ok, and now he has Trump at 10%. so why write an entire article arguing that Biden is a shoo-in?

― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt),

to...reassure you?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

Wow

🚨 State Legislative Chamber Rating Change 🚨

We are getting rid of our final Toss-Up in our forecasts:

TX House | Toss-Up → Tilt D (FLIP)

D Maj. 50%
R Maj. 44.4%
Tie 5.6%

See our nationwide state legislative forecast:https://t.co/yKxc3sFaOU pic.twitter.com/A8I6jYyiMY

— CNalysis (@CNalysis) November 1, 2020

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

Putting aside whether or not the tweet is supposed to be funny, I fail to see the analogy between atrociously bungled strikes that killed civilians instead of the intended target and a nothing-but-net three pointer.

― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Sunday, November 1, 2020 8:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This. I think it's totally fair to criticize Obama's foreign policy and use of drone strikes, but this often gets twisted into a caricature of Obama as a gleeful mass murderer, which...c'mon.

jaymc, Sunday, 1 November 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

On ABC, Trump adviser Jason Miller signals a legal battle against ballots not yet counted by Tuesday. "If you speak with many smart Democrats, they believe that President Trump will be ahead on election night ... And then they're going to try to steal it back after the election."

— Will Saletan (@saletan) November 1, 2020

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Will enjoy courts saying "where are you guaranteed a right to have all ballots counted on Election Day"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

In a 6-3 decision

frogbs, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

who are these Smart Democrats

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

do we have a new thread yet?

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

NYT-Siena polls:

Arizona: Likely voters
Biden 49%
Trump 43%

Florida: Likely voters
Biden 47%
Trump 44%

Pennsylvania: Likely voters
Biden 49%
Trump 43%

Wisconsin: Likely voters
Biden 52%
Trump 41%

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 1, 2020

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

Xpost nah, even they aren't gonna do that. They have been deferential to rules passed by state legislatures and only overturning decisions made by fed courts.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Emerson also has Biden at +6 Wisconsin, Trump at +2 Iowa

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

This. I think it's totally fair to criticize Obama's foreign policy and use of drone strikes, but this often gets twisted into a caricature of Obama as a gleeful mass murderer, which...c'mon.

― jaymc, Sunday, November 1, 2020 7:53 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The problem is that what libs and Dems who worship Obama would have us believe is that none of the drone strikes, reinvigoration of border carceral apparatus, and other actions which should rightly be considered *war crimes* or at least *crimes against humanity* even happened, and that Obama is some "effortlessly cool" and "progressive" leader when really he's just a neoliberal murderer.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

Early vote at 93.2 million. Further notes from McDonald:

2020 #earlyvote as % of 2016 total turnout

HI 111%
TX 108%
MT 99%
NC 95%
GA 94%
NM 93%
NV 91%
FL 91%
TN 90%
OR 88%
CO 87%
AZ 87%
NJ 80%

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) November 1, 2020

Questions now for overall turnout:

- How much more mail is yet to be returned? (Keep in mind some states accept ballots postmarked by Election Day)
- How much mail is returned, but not entered as processed yet?
- How much Election Day vote will be cast?

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) November 1, 2020

Should add

- A few states are still offering in-person early voting. How much more in-person?

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) November 1, 2020

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

McDonald's percentage listing doesn't cover every state near the top, but it's a good range. Washington's at 97.9%, for instance.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Pointing out the normalization of the silence around Obama's many crimes is always a worthy pursuit imho, particularly if it's taking aim at an establishment that seeks to distract from reality by being all "wow he can hit a three-pointer my pants are creamy."

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

There isn’t much silence around his war crimes, or else you wouldn’t be so aware of it, it’s simply that most people are able to sustain conflicting ideas and understand the degrees of nuance inherent in people, and how it’s amplified when are you the commander in chief of most the powerful defense in the world.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

GET OUT: US politics November 2020

Alba, Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link


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