Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

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dunno much about the details, I just had the book first and don't remember being startled by any differences when I saw the episodes

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sydney Newman, the BBC drama head who commissioned Dr Who from his own brief in 1963, interviewed during the transmission of Time & The Rani:

In September 1987, Sidney Newman discussed with me his views on the recent series of Doctor Who and its producer. They were not complimentary. @doctorwho1980s pic.twitter.com/VzDAQW3Ust

— Aramaic and Old Interlace (@AramInterlace) October 24, 2020

Un-fooled and placid (sic), Monday, 26 October 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

To be adapted into a 12-disc set by Big Finish next year, no doubt.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 30 October 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link

Big Finish can only get the rights to boring old official Dr Who, they WISH they had the commercial drawing power of picture books based on the 2009 Australian K-9 TV series, or over seventy POD novels featuring the early adventures of Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart and his modern descendents

edited for dog profanity (sic), Friday, 30 October 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link

K9 has legs now?

koogs, Friday, 30 October 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

2009

edited for dog profanity (sic), Friday, 30 October 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link

I have four K9 picture books from the 1980s written by David “Dave” Martin and they are quite good fun. For some reason they are one of the bits of childhood Who tat that I have found hardest to chuck out.

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 30 October 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

I have this
https://murdersville.co.uk/museum/wp-content/gallery/dr-who-1979/dr-who-annual-1979-2.JPG
(which I got in 1979, sigh)

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 30 October 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

I had and fondly recall those staple-bound 1980s K9 books too

edited for dog profanity (sic), Friday, 30 October 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

Unrelated – a fun recent Moffat interview where he’s not talking about the usual stuff

https://www.tvcream.co.uk/podcasts/tv-cream-stays-indoors/tv-cream-stays-indoors-with-steven-moffat/

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

That was fun, thanks - so charming to hear him think through various aspects of The Prisoner as a viewer, and from a creative standpoint, AND to be genuinely interested enough in other people to keep asking the interviewer's perspective.

Haven't listened yet, but just learnt that Stacey Abrams is a Dr Who fan, who was interviewed by Tennant on his own podcast. (rss link)

I’ve liked all of the newest regenerations since its return (some more than others), but Tom Baker remains the one Doctor to rule them all. https://t.co/S9BJlf3BF9

— Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) February 8, 2019

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Saturday, 7 November 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

There was a Husbands of River Song tweetalong today, with the director digging out a bunch of behind-the-scenes photos, and:

Here’s a reference you might not expect - Morecambe and Wise for scale for Hydroflax. #HelloSweetie pic.twitter.com/PjxDPtkFtD

— Douglas Mackinnon (@drmuig) November 7, 2020

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Sunday, 8 November 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

https://merchandise.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/3rd-7.jpg

That "full cast" must have required some extensive grave-robbing.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

Online concert-thingy recorded by the band version of the Radiophonic Workshop in lockdown, including Who content, original compositions, and improv that uses the latency in internet lag as a delay effect.

huge rant (sic), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

Adorable. Was just listening to this earlier today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cPsvv4eGD4

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

boring might be best if donald sutherland had been on it!

xzanfar, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

Happy 57th to the show, btw.

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:44 (three years ago) link

A little tweet-thread of bits David Whitaker rewrote out of Anthony Coburn's script for An Unearthly Child.

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Due to the pandemic, Eric Roberts has been unable to keep up his usual pace of 24-36 films a year. Instead, his only live-action role of 2020 will be a one-minute shot-on-phone trailer for some Big Finish box set, or for the company generally, or something.

Listen to the voice of your Master! pic.twitter.com/WzoB6EovDK

— Big Finish 🎄 (@bigfinish) November 5, 2020

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:49 (three years ago) link

Finally found some time (thanks lockdown) to listen to a Big Finish – Holy Terror, by Robert Shearman — and, as noted, it’s pretty good! Not just lowered-expectations-good but actually good. Some of the jokey dialogue is a bit dated in a larky, 1990s kind of way, but it’s a genuinely good story, Colin Baker is great, and it really nails that dissonant jolly/creepy tone that Doctor who does so well. Will try the other Shearmans.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

Eric Roberts is ridiculously prolific, good to see him squeezing in some pandemic era credits

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

Finally made it through the books-podcast ep about Terrance Dicks (and slightly about Brain Of Morbius) that Chuck linked up there - good talk, and well-produced for an amateur/zoom jobbie. Episode at https://www.backlisted.fm/episodes/124-terrance-dicks-doctor-who-and-the-brain-of-morbius

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 13 December 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

I've also not been keeping up with the return of UK lockdown / cold weather tweetalongs, this month all winter/December-themed.



Last week writer Sarah Dollard, Bill actress Pearl Mackie, and regular storyboard artist Mike Collins covered Thin Ice (S10e03).

Dollard threaded her comments:

On my deathbed I'll probably still be proud of "loch-less monster" #TheBigFreeze

— Sarah Dollard (@snazdoll) December 5, 2020

But didn't say too much, having also done & threaded a BLM fundraiser back in June, when the 'official' tweetalongs stopped due to US riots:

Peter's pause after Bill reminds him slavery still exists in this time… He’s magnificent. There’s a monologue in that pause. And I know because I probably wrote it at some point. But we didn’t need it! All we needed was the sorcery of Peter Capaldi & his face #DoctorWhoBlackout

— Sarah Dollard (@snazdoll) June 6, 2020

Was I unexpectedly obsessed with the way Peter Capaldi said the word “tattoo” in Face the Raven? Yes. Did I put another important tattoo in Thin Ice just to hear him say it again? You can’t prove anything #DoctorWhoBlackout

— Sarah Dollard (@snazdoll) June 6, 2020

I can't dig back to see how much Collins contributed, but here's a few storyboards:

It's #TheBigFreeze tweetalong BTS storyboards... @snazdoll @Emily_Rosina pic.twitter.com/1hvmTCThty

— Mike Collins (@MIKECOLLINS99) December 5, 2020

Mackie largely just chimes in with other fans watching the hashtag, but has been quiet enough since that you can scroll back to see her chimes.

I remember when Michael Pickwoad showed me the sets for Westminster Bridge and the frost fair. I was so overwhelmed. In the most amazing way. What a talent. RIP Michael Pickwoad. #TheBigFreeze

— Pearl Mackie (@Pearlie_mack) December 5, 2020

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 13 December 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

you won't believe who Big Finish managed to get to write Christopher Eccleston's return to Dr Who after 15 years of acrimonious distance from the series!

He's back! https://t.co/I4XiXBpcrL pic.twitter.com/YMIHwRMS6Y

— Big Finish 🎄 (@bigfinish) December 14, 2020

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 08:21 (three years ago) link

When I clicked through it took a moment to parse the mundanity of what I was looking at. A comprehensive misreading of your post had led me to expect Robert Shearman!

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 08:27 (three years ago) link

Same. Chris looks pleased too

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

Shearman is novelising Dalek for a Target-ish batch next year - he hasn't written a whole Big Finish since before the TV version, so that would indeed be a bigger coup than Eccleston.

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

Just bought Chimes of Midnight and looking forward to it.

Incidentally, Shearman's three-volume CYOA short story book is both (a) unfinishable and (b) well-worth buying IMO

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

I'm intrigued. Unfinishable how?

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

Well, I mean, you could read all three books cover to cover, but that would defeat the object of the setup. I guess I'll finish one route through it, then go back for the rest of the stories over, I guess, my life

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

He's very easy to read, though. Someone on Backlisted compared him to Terence Dicks, which is OTM

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

Ah that makes sense, I thought you meant there was either a flaw on his CYOA or it was overly cleverly designed.

Looks good though, will order after Christmas.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

For a November tweetalong of Blink, Moffat didn't rejoin twitter, but sent Ms Cook his first-draft script of Blink to post (pdf link), along with an intro:

...called Sally Sparrow And The Weeping Angel, which never mentions the word “blink” and has a completely different ending.

... I hated the last scene so much that the morning after I emailed the script - before I’d even heard a note - I wrote a new ending and hurriedly sent it in. No one has seen this version in years, and hardly anyone saw it at the time. Forgotten history, I suppose. The road not taken.

Most of the script is very close to what you saw - it changed less any other Who script I wrote, except maybe The Husbands Of River Song - but the proper title hadn’t arrived yet, so no one says “don’t blink!” Weird, really, looking back. When I changed the title, it was Russell who suggested I hit the word “blink” over and over again, like a cheesy old trailer. As you know, I ran with note for all I was worth - and what a brilliant note it was.

Elsewhere, you’ll notice my sitcom reflex gets out of control a few too many times, and Martha barely gets to appear. There’s one joke I regret cutting but that’s about it, I think. I think you’ll agree it got better.

Mind you, Russell always rather liked this ending - because, in his words, “it was a bit more lesbian.” (...)

huge rant (sic), Friday, 18 December 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

I was about to mention an RTD tweetalong of The Runaway Bride tomorrow, but he moved it to today because of the Strictly finale.

huge rant (sic), Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

I also missed Moffat, Matt Smith, Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill livetwooting A Christmas Carol yesterday. Catching up now, some highlights:

Moff:

Right then! #HalfWayOutOfTheDark - he hashtagged as the the UK reels into lockdown, spiralling infections, and mounting catastrophe! Half way does seem a bit optimistic right now, doesn't it? But there's nothing wrong with optimistic!

Now I've been through all my old folders and dusty boxes in the hope I could find something interesting for you all. But if it was ever there, it's all gone ten years later.

In desperation I looked at my old emails - and realised that at the time of making this Matt's hugely successful first season had just gone out and Sherlock was shown for the first time. I should have been on top of the world. And you know what?

Going by those old emails, I was in a permanent grump! Snappish, argumentative, surly, defensive! Ten years younger me was a right pain - frankly, you're lucky you've got me (no, shut up, you are!) WHY WASN'T I HAPPY?? Answer: Scottish.

Darvill:

This is difficult to do while the football is on but come on Villa! #HalfwayOutOfTheDark

Moff:

This was the first idea I had for a Christmas special (who said only - shaddup!) I love the Dickens story, and I loved the idea of the Doctor being basically all the ghosts, using time travel.

Finally the title sequence makes sense - he's flying through the clouds. You're welcome!

This was the second Who story from the BRILLIANT Toby Haynes. The visuals are quite stunning. I always feel I wasn't quite appreciative enough of Toby - probably cos I'm a grump, as already noted.

Katherine Jenkins self isolating ...

Smith:

Moffat gives me a cracking entrance here … the old I’m not Santa chimney role… soot, pat, and get Doctoring… #HalfwayOutOfTheDark

Moff:

This Matt's first performance knowing he's a hit in the role - I think you can tell. All that whirling, giddy confidence.

The crayon line - love that. My son Louis laughed at it, and asked if Matt had made it up himself. "No!" I said, "I did." He looked disappointed. "I wish Matt had made it up." I knew from then on my status.

Oh, and we go a bit Sherlock, I suppose. But, you know, the Doctor and Sherlock, they're not so far apart (and have often shared a tailor.) And in those days, my head was stuffed full of both of those shows (grumpily, as previously noted.)

I wonder if there is a specific hell for writers who force the title into the show - I'm in a lot of trouble if there is.

Oh, I miss that cast and those days. What happened to those days? Are they coming back or is time still going in one direction (despite my best efforts!)

Darvill:

I met Gambon only very briefly on this. He told me a story about his helicopter.. or James May's helicopter.. I've since forgotten the story.. how we laughed #HalfwayOutOfTheDark

Moff:

Well we had Gambon - so we cast him twice. Makes sense.

"Tonight I"m the ghost of Christmas Past." Honestly, it's like I'm round your house whispering "Geddit?" in your ear.

Oh, I like this bit. Matt disappears from shot and appears in the movie. I remember arguing in the edit that there couldn't be a cutaway - it had to happen all in one shot. I probably argued grumpily.

Matt is SO the Doctor. Silly, charming, heroic, nuts. Just perfect!

There were two special showings of this episode - and I learned a lot about how this show works the audience. The Mostly Adults audience laughed and whooped. The kids audience watched in rapt silence and jumped out of their skins when the shark crashed in.

Smith: "Corrr it’s a good episode is this !
The face spider !!! #HalfwayOutOfTheDark"

Moffat replying: "I mean what WHAT WAS I THINKING??"

Gillan:

Wee fishes #HalfwayOutOfTheDark

Moffat:

The little monologue you hear from Katherine Jenkins talking about the fish was actually written by Lindsey Alford (now Minchen) who was a constant life-saver on all but one of my Who seasons.

Now we have a famous Welsh opera singer singing to a sleeping rubber shark. I stared and stared at this in rushes, wondering how I got to do this for a living.

Smith:

I bumped into the teenage Kazran in my home town, on the street, last Xmas… Bonkers ! Hadn’t seen him since this episode. Was his first job !

Moff:

Love Matt the geeky, blundering Doctor! It was such a clever choice (his own) after David.

Oh kissing in Doctor Who AGAIN.

This story was partly based on a short Doctor Who story I wrote called Continuity Errors (which was the first Who I ever wrote actually.)

Matt Smith's mum:

Bobby loving it tooooooo 🥰 pic.twitter.com/vKUwmSvGnp

— lynne smith (@smith_lynne) December 20, 2020

Moff:

Is the changing nature of the portrait clear enough? And Older Kazran's appearing/disappearing bow tie? I know where to look, but I wonder if we nailed that detail. SACK EVERYONE!!

I mean, this is all pretty good isn't it? Nuts but good? Don't throw things, but I'm loving it.

Oh, the plot shoe-leather to get the song in. I WORKED at that.

Gillan:

I keep forgetting to tweet because I’m too engrossed in this episode #HalfWayOutOfTheDark

Moff:

There's a line cut there that I regret. After "everything has to end sometime, or nothing would get started" there was "Snow isn't snow till it falls." Shouldn't have cut that.

Smith:

If I could get one thing back from the land of Doctor Who… it would be to appear in the Christmas special each year !!! #HalfwayOutOfTheDark

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 08:59 (three years ago) link

Adorable. Must watch this one again - I remember it as a highlight. Can't believe it was a decade ago ffs

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link

Dragonfire reunion:

Sylvester and some friends have a message for you x@sophie_aldred @bonnie_langford pic.twitter.com/Tsgw2Uy8DM

— Sylvester McCoy (@4SylvesterMcCoy) December 23, 2020

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

Catching up on the Russell T Davies / Catherine Tate tweetalong on Runaway Bride. Highlights:

FIRST, a Christmas message from the Mighty One. Calling to Twitter… David Tennant! #SantasARobot pic.twitter.com/1Pm2hS79oj

— Russell T Davies (@russelldavies63) December 18, 2020

RTD:

Best music, best titles, fight me

I wrote this FOR Catherine. I did that very rarely on Doctor Who. (I wrote for Penelope Wilton too.) But I decided Catherine was PERFECT, and we hunted her down!

“That’s not even a proper word, you’re just saying things.” My husband’s favourite line I ever wrote

To cast Catherine, we had lunch with her in Century in London. I thought she’d be so busy, we didn’t stand a chance. Turned out she LOVES David Tennant, properly, and would do anything to appear with him. Deal done, on the spot! Phew

ROSE! A lot of journalists, especially sci-fi writers, sniffily said the programme might not survive without Rose. I love proving people wrong. No kidding, it makes me roll my sleeves up and go “Right!”

Is Donna the first companion to see INSIDE the Tardis first?

POCKETS!! In her very last scene, in The End of Time, Donna gets a lottery ticket on her wedding day… but with no pockets, she has to tuck it in her cleavage. Nice call back

I probably rolleyed at the action-TARDIS and bad CGI at the time, but the police box flying down a highway, chasing a stolen taxi drive by an evil robot Santa, knocking into random cars, is such a great scene. And RTD makes it extra-Xmas-family-powered by having two wee kids cheering on Donna's jump from taxi to TARDIS from the back window of another car.

Tate:

I remember doing this stunt, I thought my boobs were going to spill out of my dress 😂😂😂
#SantasARobot

RTD replying:

That might have increased the ratings xx

SCREWBALL: Here’s a cut scene, which show the Doctor and Donna using EVERY form of transport. It’s the gag of them being constantly chasing, in action, which we lost a bit. This is on the DVD extras, starring Bella Emberg! #SantasARobot pic.twitter.com/lPDdvISbJ0

— Russell T Davies (@russelldavies63) December 18, 2020

SCREWBALL: again, more cut scenes of comedy transport. So we accidentally diminished the screwball comedy aspect of the script. The genre stumbles slightly. You only realise this years later! #SantasARobot pic.twitter.com/j7Py2tUgOJ

— Russell T Davies (@russelldavies63) December 18, 2020

SCREWBALL: this is where the comedy plot of Different Forms of Transport reaches the punchline, the Segways. It’d be funnier if the other transport scenes hadn’t been cut! It’s a punchline without the build up! #SantasARobot

— Russell T Davies (@russelldavies63) December 18, 2020

I didn’t know what Segways were called, I had to draw one!! NOW I KNOW, OBVS #SantasARobot #alliwantforchristmasisasegway pic.twitter.com/Qv8xERFfbD

— Russell T Davies (@russelldavies63) December 18, 2020

Tate:

Has The Doctor still got that flip phone? Or did he upgrade to Apple?

RTD:

CGI CUTS, here’s where the CGI spiders would’ve been great. Without them… not much happens! Missing spiders...

Again, CG Spiders missing, they would’ve been so good! They're the whole POINT of the scene

https://i.imgur.com/d4QrAyw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/81iZOtA.jpg

more cut spiders: https://i.imgur.com/y07DQJl.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/7UwDUV8.jpg

This episode taped in July 2006 - followup:

January 2008. Claridge's! The Radio Times Cover Party. Jane Tranter sits down with me, Julie, Phil. I run the 2008 companion past her, "Penny". She says, hmm. She said, I saw Catherine yesterday to talk about future projects. But she went on and on about Doctor Who, she loved it so much. I think if you asked, you could get her back. For a whole series. I was like, never! She's so busy! She writes her own stuff! Impossible. And look what happened...

aaaand...

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:03 (three years ago) link

As a bonus, Davies posted excerpts from his first submission to Dr Who, aged 22 or so:

HERE IT IS. In preparation for today’s tweetalong, I went through some old papers to find the script and found… the VERY FIRST DOCTOR WHO SCRIPT I ever wrote!! On a manual typewriter! In 1985! 1986? Sixth Doctor and Mel!

This script has no title, but it’s undoubtedly called MIND OF THE HODIAC. I’ll post a few pages here, but it’s 62 pages long. I think, in 1985, I imagined that was a 25 minute episode!! Hah. And there’s a synopsis for Ep.2.

I’ve always said in interviews that I sent in a rough version of The Long Game… but think I misremembered, I think it was this. Must have been. It’s not bad, I like it!

When the show closed down in 1989, I had a letter from Andrew Cartmel saying ‘Thank you for your idea, I liked it and put it to one side for consideration but now we’ve closed down…’ (Contrary to what he says in next month’s DWM, fact fans)

I won’t post the whole thing - this story could still work! But it’s very much my Doctor Who, even in 1985, great big cosmic events all focusing down on an ordinary Earth family. Come and bid, Big Finish!

https://i.imgur.com/vR7rzhz.jpg

and

https://i.imgur.com/JUyaIq4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iwdVZ5G.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LjGTYRY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/A3vX95x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vlFkKZo.jpg

That’s it, I’ve loved it, don’t forget Doctor Who on New Year’s Day and my new show, It’s A Sin, on Jan 22 on Channel 4. But good old Doctor Who. Isn’t it always, always, always the best?! MERRY CHRISTMAS! #SantasARobot xxx

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:18 (three years ago) link

Speaking of old scripts, Moffat dug up and posted his first draft of A Christmas Carol as a festive gift.

(direct pdf link)

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 27 December 2020 07:49 (three years ago) link

We watched it again on Christmas Day (having seen the canonical, muppet, version the day before) and it's still marvellous - I'd forgotten it was Smith/Moffat's first, the next episodes after The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang, which we watched afterwards. Jesus, 10 years ago.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 December 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

Advance notice of a tweetalong!

Director Rachel Talalay and actor Chris Addison tweeting the double feature of Dark Water / Death In Heaven on January 3rd, just in time to find out if the government will be transforming millions of small living creatures into an infection-carrying army, ready to spread a horrific form of survival to the populace, the next day.

(I assume the IRL news on the latter won't be arriving any sooner.)

This will be one day after the 50th anniversary of Missy / The Master.

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 31 December 2020 06:51 (three years ago) link

UK kids definitely won't be going back to school on the 4th, if that's what you mean - apart from the children of key workers.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

Given the changes in advice during yesterday alone, they have four days to reverse, alter, withdraw, cancel and reinstate plans for closure, and I reckon they could do it. Believe in Boris!

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 31 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

highlight tweets on Dark Water

Addison:

First of all, this is the only job I ever got where my agent called me and started the conversation: "Are you sitting down?" #HeyMissy

I've been watching DW since Tom Baker was charging about the place in a scarf and a hat so to get to come and play along was a dream I'd had for almost forty years.

I was put in a three-way (which sounds saucy but is in fact the name for a trailer divided into three dressing rooms) and @rtalalay and I were talking. I heard this "WHERE IS HEEEE?" and Peter came bounding in, dressed as The Doctor.

He'd skipped off set to come and find me. It was quite something because the first time a Doctor's outfit is revealed is a big moment. And for me that big moment happened in the split second before a hug in a car park in Cardiff.

Many years before, Pete and I had been shooting an episode of The Thick of It in the BBC's weird Media Village building in Shepherd's Bush (that's London, for those of you not from round here). Like a lot of BBC buildings it was full of props and pictures. Keepsakes from big shows and so on. Where we were was a dalek. There are quite a few around the BBC. I think they put them there after the IRA tried to blow up Television Centre. Seems a short-sighted security solution, if you ask me.

Anyway, Peter and I both being huge fans of DW, we got very excited by the dalek being there. (This also happened with a TARDIS, by the way.) Peter wanted me to take his picture with the Dalek, in the classic DW pose - look of horror, outstretched hand.

That is still the picture I have in my phone for his contact. Peter as the Doctor about five years before it happened for real.

Talalay:

6:05 We used a rock face from another tv show already built in the studio to rebuild for the volcano scenes.(Wizards and aliens)
My worst memory on the volcano was we shot it over 2 days and the actors had to replicate the intensity of their performances and bring it at 8am after acting their hearts out the day before. Jenna never felt she hit it quite as strongly on the 2nd day. But she did.

Peter played with a lot of textures — how much conceit, confidence, anger to play? The genius of Capaldi. I wish I had every take to show off his range, his genius.
for instance: “Go to hell” — angry or calm?

Can I sing the tardis’ praises? what a set. Although I lit it better and did more with it on later episodes, I still tried to use it for all its details — David Tennant’s tardis was not a 360º set so they couldn’t do continuous shots. I want energy and flow here.

16:03
And the Afterlife — this was a challenge, because Seven wanted everything simple. like the 3W logo. And the artists always want to make art. They couldn’t believe he literally wanted this: #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/BXFmZRcq0D

— Rachel Talalay (@rtalalay) January 3, 2021

Addison:

I'll tell you where you are, Danny Pink. You are about ten yards from the Holby City ward. I wanted to use the toilet in the middle of this scene and got taken into Holby City to do it. Quite the culture shock.

the snog: steven scripted eyes closed:
both worked #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/uD5aCGcmHA

— Rachel Talalay (@rtalalay) January 3, 2021

Addison:

Back to that story... Peter dragged me along into this enormous sound stage. At the other end was a sort of wooden, spherical object. Enormous, it was. You could absolutely never get it in a police box.
"The TARDIS!" He said, "You never get bored of this." And we went up the scaffolding steps that take you to the entrance. And there are the doors. And in you go. And blow me down if it isn't the goddam TARDIS!

So, yeah, so we were in the TARDIS and Peter had basically been playing hooky - there was a scene to film and stuff to do. "Do you want to watch?" he asked, entirely redundantly.
I'd imagined that Pete meant that I could sit at one of the monitors and watch the scene. No, no. He meant, would I like to sit in the TARDIS and watch. He had a canvas chair on one side of the lower level, where he'd sit between takes and read.

Basically: I got to sit in the TARDIS and watch the Doctor and the Clara LIVE, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE. Best, as the kids say, day ever.

Talalay:

I still have a modicum of trauma looking at the tanks and thinking about the work that went into making no water look like water.

The Millenial Bridge construction made it impossible to reproduce the 1968 cybermen shots but I can as close as I could. I went there a couple of times trying to work out angles and how to get close without vfx.

The doctor and missy exit the middle doors: those are known as the Royal doors because only royalty are allowed through them When I went to give notes, I had to go tuse the side doors. Only they and the cybermen had special dispensation to use the doors

I snooped around on my own, conscious that I might be out of bounds. I found these. After a lifetime of conditioning, being on your own with daleks is pretty damn intimidating. Even if they are caged. And who knew that was all we had to do to stop them? #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/lN6SEaN0mn

— Chris Addison (@mrchrisaddison) January 3, 2021

Addison:

"We've got a thing for that." I bet you anything Steven put "app" in the script before Clearance told him he couldn't. I don't know for a fact, but I'd lay good money on it.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 06:59 (three years ago) link

whoops wrong list on that top link, sorry

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 07:01 (three years ago) link

Moffat, popping in:

Since Death In Heaven is about to start .... the idea of putting Jenna first in the credits only happened late in the edit. And when Peter came round to my house to watch the ep go out, I realised I hadn't told him. Of course he pretended to be mortally offended!!

Talalay:

Flying cybers, not the best VFX, worse was the pollinating cybers meaning clouds over everything when in fact the days were sunny. These technical difficulties made lighting challenging. Much is adequate at best. You need a lot of time and equipment to control the sun.

Here's a picture I absolutely love of @rtalalay and Director of Photography Rory Taylor discussing how to make the balcony CGI work. #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/tQAXfuExUD

— Chris Addison (@mrchrisaddison) January 3, 2021

Addison:

That "she wasn't even the worst" line. Steven's dig at Margaret Thatcher. I remember laughing at that at the readthrough and him looking up and nodding at me, grinning.

This is my version of the picture took all those years ago of Peter. #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/YoVJ3kXYuz

— Chris Addison (@mrchrisaddison) January 3, 2021

This, by the way, is what happens when you leave your phone next to the sound team's stuff while you're filming a take. #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/FH1HxP5pDS

— Chris Addison (@mrchrisaddison) January 3, 2021

Addison:

I think that was in the Russell T Davies Passage. It's a big corridor running along the side of the soundstage. The runner told me that when RTD left they wanted to name the stage after him. He wouldn't hear of it, but liked the idea of having a passage named after him.

Which is one more of the many reasons that RTD is an absolute hero. Once, very drunk at the RTS Awards, I met him and told him that I was glad to be alive at a time he was telling stories. I'd have said the same sober, too.

Talalay:

i am pretty sure Gomez singing 'Hey Missy' wasn't in the script. #HeyMissy. And of course we were worried about clearances -- but c'mon... we had to.

We cut out a nice scene of Clara locked in the glass cases and confronting a cyberman. I was fond of the double image of Clara’s face superimposed on the cyber. But somethings have to go just because of time. #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/skKD0sAZTa

— Rachel Talalay (@rtalalay) January 3, 2021

When we were careening about backstage like a pair of giddy fanboys, @rtalalay took this picture. It looks horrifying, but of course she was looking at the angel, so I was perfectly safe. It didn't move once. #HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/HPmgUHyfTq

— Chris Addison (@mrchrisaddison) January 3, 2021

This is the sequence where @rtalalay insisted I went mega detailed on the boards 'so they'll let us do this to Peter'#HeyMissy pic.twitter.com/RO9vmFxBeC

— Mike Collins (@MIKECOLLINS99) January 3, 2021

Addison:

That "Squeeeee!" Oh, man. I had to do it for SO LONG because we need the time to register it, then for Missy to register it, then get the zapper out and zap Seb. So there are about nineteen 'e's in that "squee".

That plane CGI. That's the kind of thing you have to have meetings about to figure out what you're going to have to cut to pay for it.

Talalay:

When Sanjeev gets yanked out of the plane, Steven scripted maybe just his feet if we couldn’t afford the whole body. I used a trick from Nightmare on Elm Street to do this effect practically. The falling sequence — I had experience from Freddy’s Dead to do falling, planes and explosions. We did wire work on Peter on greenscreen. In Heaven Sent I used a better rig much more effective for the posture of skydiving.

There was a scene that was cut of the Doctor back in the tardis, flying it. I did a crash zoom to him saying “Doctor in the tardis”. Steven cut it — he felt it crushed the energy of the falling sequence. No doubt he was right.

Addison:

I love how Steven has bookended the two episodes with the admission of love AND makes it a central problem in the middle. He is very good at writing and should perhaps do some more of it.

By the way, I owe Pete a huge amount. The Thick of It, the BBC sitcom, was my first acting experience. He saw that and immediately took me under his wing. It was also my first directing experience and he helped me with that, too (being an Oscar winning director himself)

a rando to Moffat: Do you have a favorite episode since you left the show ?
Moffat: ALL OF THEM!!!!

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 07:54 (three years ago) link

Harness posted several pitches he'd made for episodes before Moffat pitched him the Zygon story. Including a Meddling Monk story where he's listening to disco in his TARDIS, goes to 1917 to play "Ra-Ra-Rasputin" for the lols, accidentally buggers up human history, and has to regenerate into Rasputin to set things back on course.

The Meddler to be played by Matt Berry. When the pitch was rejected, Harness started a novelisation of it instead, which he also tweeted the first page of.

― Bleeqwot (sic), Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:35 AM (seven months ago)

Listening to a more recent interview with Harness where he says the 2014 script editor told him he'd never heard of Ra-Ra-Rasputin, so there was definitely no point in doing an episode built on a joke about it. The pitch never even made it to Moffatt.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 9 January 2021 05:04 (three years ago) link

Long interview with Moffat about his comedy writing career; he veers from noting that he became more successful when he stopped writing comedy, so he shouldn't return, to counter-arguing with himself that Sherlock is actually joke-a-minute at the script level, and from there to

Russell and I were interviewing each other for Doctor Who Magazine recently and in the process of doing that we suddenly noticed that we made Doctor Who a lot funnier than it used to be. You think of old Doctor Who, it's not very funny. Even Tom Baker takes it mostly seriously. Why did we go so funny?

The modern version of Doctor Who, I think one of its big successes is actually that it's a funny show. If you don't understand the plot - nobody does! If you don't really care about the monsters, nobody over the age of twelve does. If you don't care about any of that, you're there for some first-class gags delivered by some first-class people. There's a lot of comedy in Doctor Who and, from me, that's paying a huge compliment and is not meant to be insulting, though some people even now will be contemplating an inflammatory blog. It is not knocking it, Doctor Who is a funny show and The Doctor is a funny character. Any character played consecutively by Peter Capaldi and Jodie Whittaker is a funny character.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 11 January 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link


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